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« Reply #240 on: <02-12-11/1332:29> »
There's a Mossberg in the Core, and Arsenal's Defiance T-250 comes in a shortbarrelled version.
Any opinion on the crossbows?  They seem pretty handy, though the rules make them more or less like magazine pistols.
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« Reply #241 on: <02-12-11/2347:39> »
Okay, I was looking at the Tasers; the Jupiter Taser Club from Arsenal seems like a cool concept, but grossly overpriced.
On the other hand, I really want one with a Laser Sight.  And possibly a Long Barrel and an Imaging Scope. ::)
Too bad I can't get a drum and full auto, that would be hilarious.

What would you think of a Defiance EX Shocker (which seems to be the only other one with a melee option, and it's only 150 NuYen), with, say, a Smartlink and a Flashlight, and modified with an Extended Clip (+1 one whole shot!), a Gecko Grip, and for Semi-Auto?  Maybe throw a Personal Look (some myffic runes), a Ceramic Parts, or a Breakdown in, too.  Better get an Improved Rangefinder, for those distant 20m shots. ;D
Would a Silencer be necessary?  How loud are tasers?
The attached wires seem to complicate things a bit, though I suppose they drop off when you need to fire a new one.

Or do you suppose Melee Hardening could apply to a non-wire Taser, and use that to shock people?

Or is this where I just sigh and buy a pistol and some stick and shock rounds?  And a set of Stun Gloves?
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« Reply #242 on: <02-13-11/0956:08> »
There's a Mossberg in the Core, and Arsenal's Defiance T-250 comes in a shortbarrelled version.
Any opinion on the crossbows?  They seem pretty handy, though the rules make them more or less like magazine pistols.

One thing about crossbows now that War is out, as a projectile weapon you can use the trajectory software in there to combine two arrows for a 14P base damage shot that has AP-1.  Not a bad deal to try and take out SWAT armored guys and/or trolls.  I have no idea if crossbows are SS or SA, it doesn't say anywhere, just the modern crossbows have an internal magazine of 4 bolts and don't take a ready weapon action between shots. 

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« Reply #243 on: <02-13-11/1806:17> »
I like a nice powerful shotgun as well, are there any semi autos?

Screw semi auto, in arsenal they have a fully automatic shotgun with a drum on it. Best weapon in the game. Except for a Ares Desert striker with burst fire.

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« Reply #244 on: <02-13-11/2046:54> »
That's INSANE! stats?
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« Reply #245 on: <02-14-11/0349:20> »
It's the Auto Assault 16, 7P AP -1 RC 2 (Gasvent) 32(d) ammo 8,000 nuyen and availability 18F.  It's good, but it's a bitch to RC out to 9.  Takes like cyberware or a tripod or something.

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« Reply #246 on: <02-15-11/0008:51> »
It's also got a silly name, if you understand WHY the real-life weapon it's based on is named the way it is.



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« Reply #247 on: <02-16-11/2146:06> »
What do you think of this?  I put it together out of a spare point from a character I'm creating; I might drop it, but I think it's nifty.

Smartlinked Fichetti Executive Action with a Powered Folding Stock, Personalized Grip, Improved Range Finder, Integral Sound Suppressor and LowLight/Infrared Flashlight, kept in a hidden arm slide.  4100¥

Raise your arm, gun pops out on the stock; Load with stick and shock, aim and fire a burst.
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« Reply #248 on: <02-18-11/2138:33> »
Depends on the characters I have.  I'm a gun nut (No, not The_Gun_Nut!), so I pick and choose what I figure the characters would like the best.

In my stories, Jon "Money" Johnson carries a Browning Ultra-Power in .45 ACCP (Automatic Colt Caseless Pistol) with a screw-on adapter for a silencer, which he usually puts a flash suppressor on to protect the threads and to handle the muzzle flare from such a short-barreled, high powered pistol, and has replaced the integral laser sight with a smartlink.  As well, he has a pair of Colt Cobra TZ-118 SMG in his car's door holsters, and a heavily customized AK-97 in the trunk.  (He calls her "Matilda".).  He also has a large collection of modern and classic firearms, such as a 165-year old Holland & Holland Royal Deluxe Double Rifle in .600 Nitro Express that he picked up in Africa on a hunting trip at his sister's request (The hunting trip, not getting the rifle.).  He's very much a gun nut, as well as a fan of knives and blades, and is quite likely to pull out juts about anything you can think of.  I've used him as a NPC and Mr. Johnson a few times, and the PCs have seen him go on a fishing trip, having depth charges loaded onto his ship.

My other story protagonist, Nas, carries a stock Smith and Wesson M650 Heavy Revolver in .500 S&W (Ruger Super Warhawk stats), and a pair of modified Ceska Black Scorpions in .30 Caseless Carbine.  He has the revolver for intimidation purposes and as his "Driving Pistol", and the machine pistols as anti-personnel weapons.  His main weapon is pure stubbornness and whatever he's currently driving, as he's a wheelman extraordinaire!  He just came into some cash, so he'll be upgrading soon.

The first PC I've made that I call "The Accountant From Hell" (For a hopefully upcoming game) has a customized Colt Manhunter in 10mm Caseless that someone suggested the name of "Income Statement" for, and a heavily customized AK-97 in 7.62mm Caseless that I named "The Great Balancer (He uses it to balance the book of combat, as he lacks serious combat abilities.).  He also has a full-sized 12 gauge Defiance T-250 Shotgun with Slugs and Shock Lock shells, and a stock Beretta M70 SMG in 10mm Caseless, and has a Colt Asp in .38 S&W Special with EX-Ex Rounds and some speedloaders hidden away in his bolt hole.  As he's a neat freak, he typically uses dry lubricant.  He's also looking at the Colt M2066 in 10mm Caseless as a possible replacement for the Manhunter if he ever loses it/has to dispose of it.
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« Reply #249 on: <02-20-11/0638:54> »
Im sure im not the only one but damn is a Predator not just the sexiest handgun there is, well at least until they give the narcojet pistols again
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« Reply #250 on: <02-20-11/0656:30> »
There's the Parashield Dart Pistol, Injection Arrows/Bolts,or Capsule Rounds.
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« Reply #251 on: <02-20-11/0733:20> »
yeah I know,  but they just don't seem to the same to me  :P
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« Reply #252 on: <02-20-11/1701:39> »
There's the Parashield Dart Pistol, Injection Arrows/Bolts,or Capsule Rounds.
And no image of it.  Gun Porn has a good reason to be when stats are so close together.  You pick a weapon that looks good for your character, not because it has "The Best Stats For It's Class".

The Ares Predator is a great gun, yes, but it's also intimidating as all hell, and is popular as well as stats because images of it are shown.
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« Reply #253 on: <02-20-11/1754:42> »
A lot of the illustrations look...I don't know, off, or goofy.  Just for the guns, mostly, oddly enough.
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« Reply #254 on: <02-20-11/1806:43> »
That's because illustrators are not gun designers.   :P  After researching weapons like I have, and looking back at a lot of my RPG books, I just shake my head.

Of course, I did that for the Knuckleduster Firearms Shop, and those were Real Life weapons that actually worked.  Kinda.
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