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« Reply #360 on: <05-23-11/2049:46> »
Umm...why make that thing full auto--if it's even possible???
For the same reason I hacked my X Box way back when to put Linux on it, and why I root my phone as soon I as I get it - Because we can

Can, possibly. Should?  Probably not.
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« Reply #361 on: <05-23-11/2052:04> »
More boom is always better  8)
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« Reply #362 on: <05-23-11/2055:02> »
Were you being ironic?  ;D

Are there any limitations to modifying an Assault Cannon? Otherwise, it's just a Firing Selection Change (Large Modification) and is only 4 slots. You can fit in a Drum modification for 100 rounds as well. Ares help you with your recoil though.

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« Reply #363 on: <05-23-11/2150:27> »
You've got 6 slots of modifications, your character's money, and your GM's good graces to consider.

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« Reply #364 on: <05-23-11/2226:12> »
You've got 6 slots of modifications, your character's money, and your GM's good graces to consider.

The last is the most important. I'd go ahead and let him have his full auto assault cannon despite misgivings and put him against the all delta-ware cyberzombie troll.  ;)
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« Reply #365 on: <05-23-11/2237:22> »
Correct. The M-1 Garand and the SKS are the only weapons I can think of, off the top of my head, that use clips.
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A lot of Bolt-Action Rifles from the era and a bit earlier also used Clips and Stripper Clips to quickly reload as well.  The SMLE was a bit weird, as it held 10-rounds in the built-in magazine (Like a modern box magazine, but not meant to be swapped out like is done today), but the Clips held 5-rounds.  If you wanted to reload completely, you had to use two clips.

The German Mauser Gewehr 98/Karbiner 98K used Clips as well.  So did the Russian Mossin-Nagant.  And probably most other "Combat Rifles" of the era.

FYI:  The SMLE is still in military service as a Combat Rifle.  Admittedly by one small Canadian Unit, but hey, that's a long time for the old girl!
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« Reply #366 on: <05-23-11/2344:04> »
You've got 6 slots of modifications, your character's money, and your GM's good graces to consider.

The last is the most important. I'd go ahead and let him have his full auto assault cannon despite misgivings and put him against the all delta-ware cyberzombie troll.  ;)
LOL. Why bother? seriously, he won't hit anything if he goes FA. and I quote,
Quote from: SR4A p.152
Any weapon classified as a heavy has all of it's uncompensated recoil doubled.
shooting at FA would give the shooter a -18dp the only way they'd be able to use it would suppressive fire, but that's 20 rounds each time, and assault cannon rounds are expensive.......
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« Reply #367 on: <05-24-11/0010:31> »
LOL. Why bother? seriously, he won't hit anything if he goes FA. and I quote,
Quote from: SR4A p.152
Any weapon classified as a heavy has all of it's uncompensated recoil doubled.
shooting at FA would give the shooter a -18dp
Only if you have no recoil compensation, also thats no different from a machine guns.
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« Reply #368 on: <05-24-11/0046:47> »
LOL. Why bother? seriously, he won't hit anything if he goes FA. and I quote,
Quote from: SR4A p.152
Any weapon classified as a heavy has all of it's uncompensated recoil doubled.
shooting at FA would give the shooter a -18dp
Only if you have no recoil compensation, also thats no different from a machine guns.
sorry, I didn't quote my context. We were talking specifically about this.
Were you being ironic?  ;D

Are there any limitations to modifying an Assault Cannon? Otherwise, it's just a Firing Selection Change (Large Modification) and is only 4 slots. You can fit in a Drum modification for 100 rounds as well. Ares help you with your recoil though.
since it has no mods or accessories listed for recoil comp I just stated what would happen if someone did shoot it that way.
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« Reply #369 on: <05-24-11/1148:06> »
Drone mount it.

:)




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« Reply #370 on: <05-24-11/1709:12> »
Drone mount it.

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You could do that, or add accessories to it. a smart gun external, a gas vent 3, a gryomount, and a shock pad comes out to +2 to shoot, and if my math is right RC10(?) which would cover all the recoil needed to accurately fire a FA shot without negative mods. that's either +9 to hit, or +9 to damage, even with 1 agility and 1 skill that comes out to 13 dice pool if you shoot wide... which translates into SO MANY GOOD TIMES. ;D
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« Reply #371 on: <05-24-11/1723:59> »
"When in doubt, empty the magazine."
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« Reply #372 on: <05-24-11/1804:17> »
CanRay, for some reason when I read that it reminded me of when this.

Player2: Man this run was easier than freshman chicks in a college bar!
Player1: We must be getting lucky  :D
GM: good, I'm glad you feel that way, everyone roll for surprise.
Group: *dice rolled, everyone rolls low*
GM: Everyone roll an Edge test.
Player 1: Why?
GM: Because, suppressing fire. Now we'll find out just how lucky you really are.
Player1 to GM:.................. You're a dick.
GM: Flattery will only get you so far. 8)


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« Reply #373 on: <05-24-11/1948:54> »
that's either +9 to hit, or +9 to damage, even with 1 agility and 1 skill that comes out to 13 dice pool if you shoot wide... which translates into SO MANY GOOD TIMES. ;D
Wide burst is a negative modifier to the targets dodge pool not positive mod to the shooters pool.
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« Reply #374 on: <05-24-11/1955:26> »
that's either +9 to hit, or +9 to damage, even with 1 agility and 1 skill that comes out to 13 dice pool if you shoot wide... which translates into SO MANY GOOD TIMES. ;D
Wide burst is a negative modifier to the targets dodge pool not positive mod to the shooters pool.
You're right that's my bad. (thanks for catching it!) Apoliges, I just always think of it as a +9 to hit rather than a -9 to dodge because they seem so similar to me. :-[ someday that'll stick, I swear......
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