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« Reply #270 on: <03-22-11/0902:38> »
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@Sichr/LK: I don't think expenses are covered... 100+100, no expenses. Johnson can get us tickets, one of the 'details' we should notify him about is what names we want on them and who it should look like bought the tickets...
Not entirely sure the tickets are for anything more than entry+lodging...
Also, how the hell are we going to get to anywhere near the island? Airport security might be a bit too strict for the gear some of us are carrying. Anything else might be too slow though.

Well I udertood it that way, that he will cover the expenses (no expenses for us)

My English, again :)

I still cannot help myself stop thinking that this is the run for experienced team, just finished reading the IDORU once again, and the extraction there...that is the piece of SOTA work we wouldnt be able with beginning characters...and even that extraction was finished by THOR hit :)

About that security...that is why I was talking about Honolulu. We may be able to find some lesser airport in the archipelago itself, that may be a lesser problem, but Honolulu is the key. Another aproach to archipelago is from ANZAC, and that would be almost impossible.
When I was writing that long entry about how to get in, I was using just wiki and 6WA, considering 6WA to be the summary of common knowledge in 2072 normally accesible in media references and such. As such, Australia seems to have one of tightiest security in the world, AISE the sesret police even more powerfull than KE or other corporate securities. AANZAC means Australi, New Zealand and New Ginea, anected by Australian rep in 2064. Reference to mana storms are just in the australian Mainland, so I hope that Polynesia wouldnt be too hot. Otherwise Ill go deeper in sources, I got plenty of time, and compile some usefull data.

...Hope you didnt mind, Rock...Im just doing my homework. You are the one who decides what of this info should be used...
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« Reply #271 on: <03-23-11/0411:28> »
You know, Sichr, we play with this rule at home: "Don't give the GM ideas." because usually when you mention bad things that -might- happen, even if the GM hadn't thought of them before, they -will- happen. ;)

IC's going to be kind of slow for me... need to know if that contact will show up or not :(
Maybe we can do some planning here? Should speed up the process when we get to it on IC.

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« Reply #272 on: <03-23-11/0435:03> »
Truth to be said, Rock wrote that this will be one post a week PbP at the beginning of the thread. But with the task we got, its hard to keep attention in that time schedule.
Or maybe Im just too jumpy. On the after - care, Im caught between for walls and Im trying not to get crazy :)

And about this ideas...

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« Reply #273 on: <03-23-11/0526:34> »
Rock posting once a week doesn't prevent our characters from talking to each other faster... even makes it easier on him: once he logs on, he's got an idea what we're planning to do. He can just read the questions raised and answer... hopefully ;)

We going with the "we won a prize, free trip here" kind of thing?

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« Reply #274 on: <03-23-11/0542:08> »
Well...if we are there for the opening, we would be hardly able to delay it for the month...

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« Reply #275 on: <03-23-11/0546:36> »
The place is already open... just hasn't had the "grand opening" yet.
Seen Ocean's 13? It's explained there.
They open for the general public as a kind of test run, working out the final details and finishing touch.
Then after a couple of weeks, there's the "Grand Opening" where all the big names and VIP's get invited.

So we, and other people can go there already, it's the Grand Opening (2 weeks from now) we've got to delay.

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« Reply #277 on: <03-24-11/0829:52> »
So, uhm, from the silence I gather we're not going to discuss possible tactics in OOC, do it all IC?
(If we do it here, doesn't mean we won't re-do it IC, doing it here just hurries it up a bit. IC we'd still go over it like it's news, just like we'll all be surprised/shocked/disgusted by Gaunt's Conestoga ;) )
Of course, a lot will depend on the info we get from legwork/data searches etc, but nothing's etched in stone until we post it on IC, so we could adapt later.

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« Reply #278 on: <03-24-11/0845:22> »
Hm...Ive posted some ideas about the infiltration of the island with most of our gear prior in the IC...with no response:
Now we could add the "Tickets" way to our possibilities

It is hard to make a plan for extraction and datamining/destruction without further info, I only think about the last part of the run: Leaving the run and delaying the Grand opennings.
I have some idea how to make it work and even how to escape any suspictions from the Aztechnology.
We need third party.
If we are able to infiltrate their sea&airspace control systems, we should add some IFFs to the guest list or chage some. and sell this IDs to pirates or ecoterrorists, whoever, who will be excited about taking all those VIPs hostage and make some public statements requests. I know...it is not exactly "delaying" the GO. It is something the manager of this operation would be executed in teocali for...but i suppose it should work...

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« Reply #279 on: <03-24-11/1025:30> »
IC: Silk's not doing any planning tonight.

Your plan messing with the VIP airplane IFF. Uhm, sounds pretty dangerous to me.
First of all, being responsible for the crashing/shooting down/hijacking of a plane full of VIP's will probably draw us even more attention than blowing up every building on the island. I'm thinking unidentified/hostile IFF, flying in Aztec restricted airspace, will get blown to pieces... which is better than pirates/ecoterrorists; I would hate having to depend on others, especially such unreliable others, to complete our mission.
Second: Since they'll be high-society VIP's, security will be double and triple checked. Who knows how many decoys will be sent, etc.
Third: Since it's a last-minute kind of thing (can't do the hacking in advance, if you do, a systems check or reboot might screw up everything), if it fails, there's no backup plan, we failed.
Doesn't mean we can't use it as plan F or something, in case we really find no other solution.

I only do linear thinking... so: Entrance. (Really, I'm just thinking out loud - well, out typing...- feel free to skip, there'll be a conclusion somewhere.

 Getting there fast enough. Boat travel will take days; land isn't exactly an option, so air is the only option. If we're packing dino-protection gear for 2 weeks, I'm guessing we want to avoid security checkpoints. Anyone know how we might get on and off an airplane without having our baggage checked?
- BIG extra problem with that: Smuggling a bus and other vehicles on an airplane could be a bit tricky ;)
- Extra extra problem: even if we manage to get to the nearest island, we'll still have to get to the other.

So a boat might be necessary, but that would mean cutting several days of planning and operation time. Even finding a boat large enough to transport the bus without having some alarms go off might be tricky. And even if we get a boat that can do the transporting, it's going to be a bit too large to approach the island without showing up on sensors.

So only option I see: Disguise and enter through the main entrance.
* Either as some wageslaves getting a vacation from the company (of course they're still expected to work while on the island).
- Some of us don't really look like wageslaves.
- SIN's don't really match us working for a company.
- Even if they did, one phone call would betray us.
* Or we're a bunch of random people who happen to arrive on the same bus, like the "free trip" gimmick... might be stupid enough to work too.
- Problem: We'll be registered in the system, so unless Nomad believes we can delete pretty much everything in their systems, we'll need to ditch our current SINs.
- Fake SIN's would be an option, but they'll either be very expensive or an extra chance at being caught.
- Main problem: are we even sure the place works with tour agencies? Are vehicles other than their own even allowed on he island? If that's a no, Gaunt might be out of work for the next 2 weeks, so let's hope this is the way the island works.

Conclusion: Only way I see of getting there is the tour bus vacation trip, it's got a lot of places where things might go wrong, but I don't see another way. This is under the assumption that:
- The park works with outside travel agencies bringing their own safari busses. If not, we're screwed.
- We can set up said fake company and make it look legit, and the Johnson can get us tickets as if bought through the company.
- The bus has got enough smuggling compartments to stash all our gear.
- To get Gaunt's second vehicle (Jeep) along... Think it would be credible if tour agency got the Jeep as tour guide and/or to scout ahead for interesting things?
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« Reply #280 on: <03-24-11/1200:00> »
nonononono

They need to have IFF or travellers security codes in ground station.
I dont think that All VIPS will arrive at one plane, nor they all arive via Air. There will be a lot of yachts, helicopters etc.
What I meant was to let the ecoterrorist allow to land safely, because their IFF responder or security code or whatever we put in the system. That would need some hacking, but, hell, we are going to blow up the labs mainframe, there allways be the need for the hacking.

To get the Buis there, even via Ariplane...now that seems pretty crazy idea, I dont think they would lend us C-60 Galaxy to transport the bus there, and there is no place to land, just a heliport. Unless the bus is able to flow, we are leaving it on the island in case we need to get out quickly.
I thing, for the tickets, some of us may use this way. But if we get there all at one chopper, even with our tickets ready, we shouild left the planning at the time we are on the island because we will get there stripped out of anything possibly dangerous and even I got a watcher spirit on my ass to watch my every move (starting characters...that means no initiation and no metamagics=no Aura masking). I will do the astral recon before we get there, thats for sure, but to do it I need a GM because this is fragin Aztech astral space...with all the dangers it should mean.

And for this travel agency...unless we are part of Aztechnology, we are out. This is mega corporation and its playground. Why would they allow anyone else to make a fortune on it?

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« Reply #281 on: <03-24-11/1252:08> »
The pirate/terrorist idea: still means it's last minute, and still means we have to rely on them to do our jobs... Silk wouldn't really trust that lot, certainly not with 100kY depending on it.
Also, I'm not even sure it would delay the Grand Opening unless the terrorists arrive in large numbers... numerous enough to be immediately spotted by security.
Thought just hit me: stealing VIP IFF's and travel plans could provide some nice paydata, if you don't mind selling to terrorists.

Being stripped of all belongings: not an option. LK can still function without gear, not so for lots of others.
And I personally am of the "never split the party" mindset unless absolutely necessary. That's why we need to make sure we can get there with our own transportation with smuggling capabilities.

Travel agency thing: Allowing a travel agency's own transportation is commonly used in a lot of parks, certainly ones as large as this. The park doesn't have to spend anything on their guests' transportation, the maintenance of the vehicles or the personnel required for the driving/maintenance, while they still get a very big cut of what the guests pay.
0 cost, lots of profit. Doesn't sound far fetched, but it'll depend on Rock I suppose.
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« Reply #282 on: <03-24-11/1327:23> »
Well. we got 14 days. If we work fast, next week there should be whole fuckin flotilla on move.
The day after tomorow Negotiation team with the protection lands in Honolulu and tries to make contact with ALOHA. They may be helpfull to get contact for some local smugglers able to get our heavy equipement on the island. Another team may be on the island in that moment, working on plans for extraction and on data structure.
Also our contacts should work for us. For instance, Olaf the Fixer would may be able to contact Akulas, Russian submarine pirates, and they should have some potential beyond our knowledge, contactng other pirate groups for instance...Meeting their representatives may be done anywhere in the world or online.
Lochkid and Nomad dont need to use the equipement, but that doesnt mean that we will be able to use our abbilities without risk. In fact, I think that if Nomads technomancy is discovered, he would never leave the island otherwise than in Aztech jetplane with the head jammer on. In the moment they found out that Im a mage, like I said, they would watch my every step on the island.
But that risk is inevittable.
We should sell access to the island to whoever we want and do some sabotage to be sure that the opening is delayed...for example...cut of the electricity to fences and releasing those monsters on the island. If it happens that both way works, the better. But. I dont want to be there when it happens...

Im for splitting the party, we have many tasks and there is 8 of us, it gives us no advantage to be all together at one place.
We would be able to work in two teams at least, with most of skills present in both. I prefere multi approach strategy.

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« Reply #283 on: <03-24-11/1407:10> »
I honestly doubt we'd have trouble getting the bus on the island. Bear in mind that there are choppers today that can slingload tanks and small buildings. And they've only gotten better in the 2070s.

If we do decide to do the tourists cover though,  explaining the presence of so many... Oddballs... Will be an issue as I've said before. I think we should go with Silk being the corporate executive/corporate Johnson on vacation. Pick someone to be her boyfriend, everyone else is part of her protection detail.

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« Reply #284 on: <03-24-11/1423:56> »
Ares Dragon would be suitable for the task, I was thinking about it.
But it would be hardly able to fly us all acros the Pacific from Seattle to Polynesia with the bus and jeep "slingloaded" (nice word, never heard it before :))...it about 9500 km as a crow flies...

 

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