[Bishophawk]

Is there no more binding spirits to you in 6E, or am I just over looking it?

[Iron Serpent Prince]

There is no more binding of spirits in Sixth World.

[Bishophawk]

Well that sucks troll balls,  wonder why its listed as specialization under the conjuring skill?

[Iron Serpent Prince]

The consensus is that it was accidental carry over from 5e.

I have a conspiratory level theory that the plan might be/have been to introduce binding in the magic book.
There is nothing at all to back this up, hence the conspiratory theory level tag.

[Michael Chandra]

Well that sucks troll balls,  wonder why its listed as specialization under the conjuring skill?

Either a mistake that will be errataed, or a precursor of Risky Magic.

As for sucking balls: You can have more spirits summoned now (Mx3 total Force) and they last longer: They last through 1 sunrise or sunset, only poofing after the next (so last a max of 24h depending on when you summon, if you summon at 4 pm they last through the sunset and poof at sunrise for example). So now you can have a small army without downtime prep, but you actually can't mitigate the drain to your downtime.

[Giabralter]

There's also no restriction to the spirit type you can summon. 

[ZeroSum]

There's also no restriction to the spirit type you can summon.

Intentionally, or is that by mistake?

[Giabralter]

There's also no restriction to the spirit type you can summon.

Intentionally, or is that by mistake?

Not sure, but currently the only distinction between a hermetic and a shaman is the drain attribute. Binding had functionality tied to different spirit types and what they could do to help the magician. And core rules have removed Binding.

[ZeroSum]

There's also no restriction to the spirit type you can summon.

Intentionally, or is that by mistake?

Not sure, but currently the only distinction between a hermetic and a shaman is the drain attribute. Binding had functionality tied to different spirit types and what they could do to help the magician. And core rules have removed Binding.

Aha, I see. An item for the Errata Team, I take it. Thanks.

[Stainless Steel Devil Rat]

Well, there's not too much errata can do about Binding.  In fact, we did what we could do: removed references to it since there are no rules for it.

I would assume they'll bring rules for binding in this edition's Street Grimoire. Along with other probable predictions like Background Counts and so on.

[Shinobi Killfist]

Or they will just dump it. I’m not sure what the functionality of binding will be given that you can have multiples and the duration is extended. I get even longer duration but I suspect most mages will have them up for the day effectively. After breakfast ritual of sustaining key spells and summoning spirits.

[Michael Chandra]

Well, there's not too much errata can do about Binding.  In fact, we did what we could do: removed references to it since there are no rules for it.

I would assume they'll bring rules for binding in this edition's Street Grimoire. Along with other probable predictions like Background Counts and so on.

I actually like it being gone and allowing multiple summons instead. If Binding comes back, I hope any active ones at the very least count against that limit. And I would prefer if ALL bound count for the Mx3 Force limit, to prevent a player from going WWI meat grinder on them.

[Shinobi Killfist]

Well, there's not too much errata can do about Binding.  In fact, we did what we could do: removed references to it since there are no rules for it.

I would assume they'll bring rules for binding in this edition's Street Grimoire. Along with other probable predictions like Background Counts and so on.

I actually like it being gone and allowing multiple summons instead. If Binding comes back, I hope any active ones at the very least count against that limit. And I would prefer if ALL bound count for the Mx3 Force limit, to prevent a player from going WWI meat grinder on them.

I’m on the other end. I think multiple spirits without binding is a unneeded buff to the most buff part of the game. Mx3 in force is a better limit than x in spirits but I’d of kept one summoned the rest bound and made binding expensive.

[Xenon]

Well that sucks troll balls,  wonder why its listed as specialization under the conjuring skill?

Either a mistake that will be errataed, or a...

It was already in the hot fix errata:

SR6 Core Rulebook Errata Aug 2019 p. 3
p. 94, Conjuring, specializations
Remove Binding as a specialization

[Tecumseh]

I’m on the other end. I think multiple spirits without binding is a unneeded buff to the most buff part of the game.

I agree with this. I would have gone with Magic * 1.5 in total Force of spirits summoned. I'd like to create more space for multiple small spirits as a trade-off for one larger spirit.

Honestly, I'd like to go Magic * 1 to curb oversummoning, but the new way that spirits resist being summoned makes oversummoning less likely to succeed in the first place. (Spirits now resist with F*2 instead of just Force, meaning that your 15-17 dice summoner with Edge at the ready can't reliably drag F12 demons out of the depths hell straight from chargen anymore.)