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[SR6] Cybereyes

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Alrician

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« on: <10-18-19/0556:46> »
I have a question about cybereyes: In the 5th edition, visual enhancements use either cybereye-capacity or essence in the case of retina implants. The passage is missing in the current rules. So in case of infrared for example: do I have to "pay" both the essence costs of infrared and of cybereyes?

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« Reply #1 on: <10-18-19/0601:58> »
Probably not, but you're right that that passage isn't there.

There's a comparable passage for cyberweapons: "Weapons can be implanted into cyberlimbs, costing capacity, or directly into flesh, costing Essence." So that supports the suspicion nothing changed.
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« Reply #2 on: <10-18-19/0815:42> »
I don’t have a book in front of me at the moment but if both a capacity and Essence cost are listed, you can pay for the enhancement with either. Obviously, if using capacity, this would go against the total capacity of the cyber eyes. Using Essence would not require cyber eyes. If only capacity is listed then cyber eyes would be required.
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« Reply #3 on: <10-18-19/0919:46> »
@Plan_B: The rules only explicitly mention it with Cyberweapons, not with the eyeware/headware stuff, so Alrician is right it seems to have dropped from the rules in SR6. But yeah, intent seems to still be either, not both.
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« Reply #4 on: <10-18-19/0927:02> »
It also needs to say if any capacity-priced item fits in any device that houses capacity. You'll have to house rule whether you can or can't put a laser rangefinder, for example, in cybereyes (or even Cyberlimbs).
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« Reply #5 on: <10-18-19/1227:57> »
If you don't have any natural eyes (because you replaced them with cybernetic eyes) then visual enhancements can only take up capacity, not (never) essence.

If you only have natural eyes (because you have not replaced them with cybernetic eyes) then visual enhancements can only take up essence, not (never) capacity.

Alrician

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« Reply #6 on: <10-18-19/1245:36> »
If you don't have any natural eyes (because you replaced them with cybernetic eyes) then visual enhancements can only take up capacity, not (never) essence.

If you only have natural eyes (because you have not replaced them with cybernetic eyes) then visual enhancements can only take up essence, not (never) capacity.

I Do agree. It just was not mentioned in the rules like in 5th edition, so I came here to ask.

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« Reply #7 on: <10-18-19/1256:10> »
It can't really be resolved in any other way. They were trying to save word count in SR6. Doesn't mean the mechanics changed.

 

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