[imthedci]

Basically, I'm wondering why it's taking so long for the Jan. errata only sheet to be released. (I know the CRB pdf was updated two weeks ago, but I haven't seen anything about a sheet with *just* the errata)

Is it because there's going to be an FAQ with it? That's the only reason that seems to make sense. I could see it taking a little bit to get out if there was going to be a FAQ with it.

Then again, it might be out already and I just didn't see it posted anywhere... 

I'm trying to make personalized cheat sheets for our group, but I'd like to have the errata first to make sure I don't put anything down wrong....

[Beta]

Purely guessing, but probably they have a queue  for layout (and as much as many of us would be happy with a .txt document listing From: xxxx To: yyyy, realistically they are not going to send it out without final editing and formatting and layout using their template)

[Stainless Steel Devil Rat]

Basically, I'm wondering why it's taking so long for the Jan. errata only sheet to be released. (I know the CRB pdf was updated two weeks ago, but I haven't seen anything about a sheet with *just* the errata)

Is it because there's going to be an FAQ with it? That's the only reason that seems to make sense. I could see it taking a little bit to get out if there was going to be a FAQ with it.

Then again, it might be out already and I just didn't see it posted anywhere... 

I'm trying to make personalized cheat sheets for our group, but I'd like to have the errata first to make sure I don't put anything down wrong....

I wish I knew the answer as well.

What I can say is it's not because FAQ is going to be included in them.  That's another project independent of getting errata printed.

[penllawen]

Then again, it might be out already and I just didn't see it posted anywhere... 

Theres an unofficial errata compilation by ZeeMastermind, D4rvill, and numerous others here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowrun/comments/eg2uzy/compilation_of_the_6e_errata_thread

It also includes the changes made by Pegasus in the German CRB.

[Lethrendis]

Sorry, but there is an incredible mess. There is a German errata from Pegasus and a CB change from January. Why don't the authors issue an official errata, where it will be clear? I don't want to read the rules again and look for possible changes, I want a list!

[Michael Chandra]

The errata-document is underway, but apparently delayed. We don't know when this will release, because in the past there has been too heavy backlash over dates promised that couldn't be kept due to circumstances.

As for the German errata: That's for the German edition. Forget about Pegasus if you want to use the official English rules.

[penllawen]

Forget about Pegasus

Or don't, because Catalyst don't have a monopoly - or even majority - of Good Ideas About Shadowrun. Pegasus have decent game design chops and their stuff is worth reading and considering.

Edit - and honestly, 6e needs every scrap of help it can get.

[penllawen]

The errata-document is underway, but apparently delayed. We don't know when this will release, because in the past there has been too heavy backlash over dates promised that couldn't be kept due to circumstances.

How dare these uppity customers who paid money for things expect to receive desperately needed fixes in a timely fashion! They should feel lucky that fixes might arrive at all, unlike (say) 5e and Anarchy, where the errata team's diligent work has languished unpublished for years.

[taranion]

"As for the German errata: That's for the German edition. Forget about Pegasus if you want to use the official English rules."

The changes Pegasus made are either invented by CGL or proposed from Pegasus and confirmed by CGL.They are of course not the official English rules, but they sure contain clarifications, intentions and improvements, which might help you until Catalyst releases the official errata - and its likely that some amount of them will find its way into the official English errata.

Let us all hope that Catalyst releases a new official errata document any time soon - it will help to solve this mess.

[Michael Chandra]

The changes Pegasus made are either invented by CGL or proposed from Pegasus and confirmed by CGL.

Do you have any source for that claim? Because right now all evidence points to the contrary: Both in SR5 and SR6 Pegasus has made mistakes or significant rule changes in their adjusted version, which are unmatched by the CGL rules and errata. Letting Mystic Adepts freely gain PP is such a change, I have seen zero evidence that this is a CGL-approved change.

[penllawen]

Because right now all evidence points to the contrary: Both in SR5 and SR6 Pegasus has made mistakes or significant rule changes in their adjusted version, which are unmatched by the CGL rules and errata.

You're suggesting that this is because Pegasus is overstepping some line in the sand you've drawn, but an equally valid hypothesis is that it is because the Catalyst rules and errata don't go far enough.

Letting Mystic Adepts freely gain PP is such a change, I have seen zero evidence that this is a CGL-approved change.

A mystic adept who wants 5 power points in 5e would put A into magic and then spend 25 karma - and they'd have 10 spells. In 6e, under the Pegasus rules, they'd need to put priority A into Magic, and then spend 25 karma - and they'd have no starting spells at all. Sounds like it's a long way from "free" to me. Are you suggesting this is so grossly unbalanced that Catalyst could never have agreed to it?

[Banshee]

Because right now all evidence points to the contrary: Both in SR5 and SR6 Pegasus has made mistakes or significant rule changes in their adjusted version, which are unmatched by the CGL rules and errata.

You're suggesting that this is because Pegasus is overstepping some line in the sand you've drawn, but an equally valid hypothesis is that it is because the Catalyst rules and errata don't go far enough.

Letting Mystic Adepts freely gain PP is such a change, I have seen zero evidence that this is a CGL-approved change.

A mystic adept who wants 5 power points in 5e would put A into magic and then spend 25 karma - and they'd have 10 spells. In 6e, under the Pegasus rules, they'd need to put priority A into Magic, and then spend 25 karma - and they'd have no starting spells at all. Sounds like it's a long way from "free" to me. Are you suggesting this is so grossly unbalanced that Catalyst could never have agreed to it?

In my opinion (and I think this is where MC is heading too) it's more that Pegasus is basically a completely different game once they start doing their own thing (Jason only gives them a cursory review at best so they free reign to do a lot of what they do). Can you use their stuff as semi-official house rules ... sure, but it's not official CGL supported English rules. This really only matters for Missions play though.

As for mystic adepts... it's not about what was it in 5e but rather what we have seen approved so far for 6e and how it doesn't line up on both sides of the pond.

[penllawen]

This really only matters for Missions play though.

Tbf I have zero interest in Missions play, which might be why I'm being hard on this line of reasoning.

[Michael Chandra]

In my opinion (and I think this is where MC is heading too) it's more that Pegasus is basically a completely different game once they start doing their own thing (Jason only gives them a cursory review at best so they free reign to do a lot of what they do). Can you use their stuff as semi-official house rules ... sure, but it's not official CGL supported English rules. This really only matters for Missions play though.

As for mystic adepts... it's not about what was it in 5e but rather what we have seen approved so far for 6e and how it doesn't line up on both sides of the pond.

Exactly: If you want to know what the official English rules are (which indeed mostly only matters for SRM and strict GMs), unfortunately the German CRB cannot support you as far as I can tell. If you're unsure and want some inspiration for your own houserules, then there's absolutely nothing wrong with using Pegasus. It's simply not official for the English version.

[Banshee]

This really only matters for Missions play though.

Tbf I have zero interest in Missions play, which might be why I'm being hard on this line of reasoning.

Absolutely agree ... but it's an important distinction to make, especially here on the forums