[themartyr781]

haven't played Shadowrun since 3E. as I'm looking through Character Creation I have some questions regarding Attribute and Edge values prior to the assignment of any values from Priority.

What is the starting value for each?
p63 has a line where 'baseline attributes range start 1 and can go up to 6. does that infer that all Physical and Mental Attributes start with a value 1 and then points are assigned from Priority or that all Physical and Mental attributes must have at least a value of 1 after Priority value assignment is complete?

Edge is only raised by Metatype (Adjustment Points) and p.63 has the following line 'Adjustment points are used to modify Magic/Resonance, purchase Edge, and enhance special racial attributes. Yet the Metatype Attributes Table lists Edge as 1-N for all metatypes. so what is the starting value of Edge? 1 or 0 prior to placement of Adjustment Points? and must Edge start with at least a value of 1 like the Physical and Mental attributes?

[Stainless Steel Devil Rat]

Everything starts at 1 for 'free', except of course Magic/Resonance which start at whatever your priority pick says and Essence which starts at 6.

Edge also starts at 1.


What may be tripping you up is you have two pools of points with which you can increase your attributes.  You have the Attribute Points that you get via your Attributes priority pick, and you have Special Attribute Points that you get via your Metatype priority pick.  Each of these pools can only be spent in certain ways, although there is some potential overlap.

Attribute points: may only be spent on mental and physical attributes.  Not Magic, Resonance, Essence, Edge.
Special Attribute Points: May be spent on Magic/Resonance (if you are awakened/TM) and Edge. Also may be spent on those mental and physical attributes that your selected metatype indicates.

Essence only goes down via implants.  You can't spend any points to increase it in any way.

[Michael Chandra]

E.g. I get 12 attribute points (Priority C) and 4 special points as Elf (Priority D), while being Mundane (Priority E).
1/1/1/1 | 1/1/1/1 | 1

I spend 12 points.
3/5/5/1 | 3/1/1/1 | 1

I spend 4 special Points, which because I'm Elf can go into Agility, Charisma, or Edge.
3/7/5/1 | 3/1/1/1 | 3 (total 25 = 9 base + 12 + 4)

Now I spend karma to raise the 1s to 2s, which costs me 4x10 karma.
3/7/5/2 | 3/2/2/2 | 3

[Xenon]

What is the starting value for each?

It is 1 across the board.
The metatype attributes table is on p. 64

...that all Physical and Mental Attributes start with a value 1 and then points are assigned from Priority

Yes.

You can also spend adjustment points from meatype if your chosen metatype have maximum attribute ratings that are above 6 (for example elf charisma and agility or ork strength or body).

And at the end of chargen you can also spend customization karma where each new attribute rating cost new rank x 5 karma (same as post chargen).

Some people like to spend karma on attributes that are still 1 (since it only cost 10 karma to raise it to 2).

Maximum attribute ratings are listed in the metatype attributes table.

Note that only one (physical or mental) attribute may have metatype maximum rating during chargen.

Edge is only raised by Metatype (Adjustment Points)

You can also spend customization karma at the end of chargen where each new attribute rating cost new rank x 5 karma (same as post chargen).

Maximum edge rating during chargen is listed in the metatype attributes table (6 for everyone except human that may raise edge up to 7).

Yet the Metatype Attributes Table lists Edge as 1-N for all metatypes. so what is the starting value of Edge?

All races start chargen with Edge 1.

Then you spend adjustment points (optional).
Then you spend customization karma (optional).
And once game start you spend karma (optional).


Only attributes that does not start 1 for 'free' during chargen are Essence, Magic and Resonance.

Essence start at 6.0 for all metatypes and cannot be raised (but the more augmentations such as cybernetics and bioware you install the more you reduce it, if it reach 0 you supposedly die).

Magic is an attribute that only magicians and adepts have and resonance is an attribute that only technomancers have. They all get their starting value depending on their Magic or Resonance priority. Then you raise it with adjustment points. They it might be reduced if you install augmentations. Then you can also raise it with customization karma at the end of chargen. And after chargen you can also increase it with regular karma.

[themartyr781]

thank you very much for the clarification. that helps a lot.