[Sichr]

Also: Roll initiative, so I can add you into scheme.
Im the last one who will try to stop you from trying to be creative, sorry I had a moment of tunnel vision...

[MaxKojote]

I suspect it'd be a Simple Action to Issue Command, as device mode is more turning things on/off,changing settings on a microwave or firing settings on a weapon. In addition, you can Spoof an Issue Command to change the device it is slaved to.

[MaxKojote]

Also need to know if my Analyze CF was able to identify the GridLink's icon  in the vehicle node.

[MaxKojote]

At the moment I can see a couple of ways of doing things. The problem is that it will be as about as subtle as an anvil. Disconnecting the agent, Nuking the Agent, attacking the agent... The other alternative is that I trace the agent to the source, and attempt to find an accept AccessID to use to spoof it to back off.

Also, am I still recognised as a legitimate admin? If so, could I theoretically issue a command for the car to issue an alert against the pilot program?

[Sichr]

For the admin, idn if you ever been, imo standard for driving is user account. But if you slaved the car, you are admin. Interesting rules mishmash. Since if you slaved Shadow's link, she wont be able to use it RAW, and to slave the vehicle by herself. Well that would be pretty silly way to interpret rules. Idn. I have feeling that every time I try to play matrix right, things just fall apart

[Kouryuu]

I know how much you like RAW, but Matrix in Raw is terrible

[farothel]

For the admin, idn if you ever been, imo standard for driving is user account. But if you slaved the car, you are admin. Interesting rules mishmash. Since if you slaved Shadow's link, she wont be able to use it RAW, and to slave the vehicle by herself. Well that would be pretty silly way to interpret rules. Idn. I have feeling that every time I try to play matrix right, things just fall apart

I think as a user (and I assume I can also have admin rights on my own PAN) I can slave another thing I have access to.  Fang just has the rights to overrule me, and given his probably higher dicepools, he will be if he wants to..

As for the situation at the moment, I feel like a bit stuck on what to do.  In fact, I'm not sure there is much I can do.  But I find it strange that an agent can get admin access to the car's node without it being asked.  Every shadowrunner who knows a bit about the matrix has configured all his nodes not to allow this (I know it's a bit far-fetched to draw comparisons with today's systems, but I configured my PC to ask every time an external programs wants to run something on my system).  But it's quite possible I overlooked something (the way we played the matrix in our RL group seems quite simple now I look back at it). 

As to the type of action it would take, I don't think it will matter a lot since it's about the only thing I'm going to do.  And it doesn't really matter all that much if it takes a second more. 

I've also added to my list of things to buy: GridLink override for the car (I still have some mod slots left over) and an agent to run a bunch of things for me. 

[Sichr]

And gridlink is exactly what allowed agent to get those privileges. Standart setup. Also. Even to get admin rights for your comlink can be problem. Remember iPhone. That you are the owner doesnt mean you are alowed to do whatever you want :p

[Ren]

If you slave a device it doesnt mean that the original user loses any privilages on that. It just means that you must have admin rights on that system or device, and that device loses the ability to communicate with independent devices wirelessly for the duration of the slaving, it must use the master node to pass all external communication through. I wouldn't think that if you slave a commlink it looses the connection to other parts of the original user's PAN. Furthermore, as the original user might have retained the admin rights most non-corporate users have on their devices, i would say she has the ability to un-slave a device any time by using the change linked device mode action.
If you think IRL examples, there are system setups that use clusters within the company network, individual computers within the cluster, etc. It's like a row of slaved systems.

On the other hand, i agree on GridLink. It is set up so that in some situations it is able to override a normal user and the car's commlink is not able to shut it out without shutting down or using a GridLink override. However, i think a hacker in the system might be able to terminate it's effect through rewriting procedures, defeating the agent in cybercombat, etc. Though he will be sure to activate some kind of alert if he is not cautious enough. (Spoofing a command is a good idea, though you have to have a valid access ID for that.)

And yes, the Blessed Trinity of spoof chip, morphing licence plate, and gridlink override is a must for runners in any car that has wireless capability, and which they want to use outside legally allowed limits in an environment that has gridlink. But we can't know everything, anyone might've overlooked this mod when buying equipment.

[farothel]

And yes, the Blessed Trinity of spoof chip, morphing licence plate, and gridlink override is a must for runners in any car that has wireless capability, and which they want to use outside legally allowed limits in an environment that has gridlink. But we can't know everything, anyone might've overlooked this mod when buying equipment.

I have two of the three, just not the gridlink override.  Probably because my previous Shadowrun tabletop was in Lagos, and there they don't have gridlink, but you want to spoof the car if you're on Lagos island. 

[MaxKojote]

I could pull off a Spoof if I traced the subscription to the master and grabbed an appropriate AccessID from there.

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Or I could Decrypt the subscription thing, then use Sniffer to capture info and get the AccessID, then Spoof a Command. The former would probably be easier though. Once my turn comes up I'll get started on tracing.

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Also owe you an apology Sichr. I've been forgetting to account for the sustaining penalty on TacNet on some of my rolls. >>

[farothel]

Do a Matrix perception on it, and you should be able to get an access ID.  Besides, if it's really from GridLink, it should be fairly easy to trace. 

[Sichr]

Imo ive said IC some details on thir topic. I'll be possibly able to post something evening.

[MaxKojote]

Technically I have the agent's AccessID, don't think I have an accessID it will listen to though, hence the tracing.

[Sichr]

You are right imo, i forgot if agent has its own AID, and afb now, will check and update

Edit: Yes it has. Well AcessID is listed on the loglist as Agent legged on the node, so you don`t need any special actions when you are Master to find it.