[Chrona]

Exam monday, only gonna have time to GM my PBP between last minute  revision till after it, just letting you know

[Sentinemodo]

There is still time for some extra legwork. Just form a question or at least area. You have lots of contacts to use.
And uy could be safer and more cost efficient to use them then to kidnap and interrogate.

Riker do not have levitate but have invisibility he told so but I don't think it was clear enough. I understand you will go through truck gate. There is a camera. How will you bypass that? Riker can make you invisible but the gate being open can't be hidden that way.

[Kouryuu]

There is still time for some extra legwork. Just form a question or at least area. You have lots of contacts to use.
And uy could be safer and more cost efficient to use them then to kidnap and interrogate.

Riker do not have levitate but have invisibility he told so but I don't think it was clear enough. I understand you will go through truck gate. There is a camera. How will you bypass that? Riker can make you invisible but the gate being open can't be hidden that way.

My idea
Ryker had some stun spell right? or i could use the taser.
As my character has done it before, Should have at least,  he should know where to find some birds, they are not that rare, but its up to the GM
stun a bird, smash the camera, leave the bird - no problem, changing it will take some time so we could get in easy.

[Netzgeist]

plan forming continues:
Act I - infiltrate
1. perimeter over watch - Omar in the car nearby, communication jamming/spoofing, Riker in astral
2. Sam will go inside shwoing the way for Cursor (for close matrix calls) and Calico (in case of troubles)
- primary target - security console - block B, small compartment, get in, remove guards, block the panic buttons
- secondary target - implant bugs to gain matrix entrance on the second mission
- third target - physical damage/destruction/theft
3. Sam leads the team out
4. in case anything go wrong the gang will provide distraction for the incoming PuebSec forces.

Act II - delivery takeover
1. find the truck routes
2. stop / takeover vehicle (using gang as well?)
3. hide the loot/clear the truck

Act III - matrix diversion
1. using the entrnaces made already and using bugs placed in Act I
2. hack the assembly node and watch how the nuyens burn in chaos

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questions
- whats the role of Fractal in Act I
a) he could go in and use social-fu in case of meeting with guards
b) he could wait outside with Omar and make Matrix overwatch adn make social-fu diversion during infiltrate exit

- how you plan to enter the facility?
a) breaking through the fence
b) breaking through security shack
c) breaking through the trucks gate

- what kind of damage/theft/disruptions to the production will be made

As I see it, Fractal may also go inside, as he can help with 'trix quest (disabling and troubling security, stealing files and programs, planting false evidences [remember that Fractal's specialty is editing files, so he could make false cam recordings and this kind of tampering]). Alternatively, he could try to distract the guards in some way (passing himself as some authority, making false calls from their homes, etc...). Both alternatives are good, and he would be willing to go.

The way I see, it would be important to try to create confusion in the signs of the tampering we will made.  It would be more difficult for them to understand what really happened, and to answer to it. So, our working (destroying the equipment, stealing files, stealing supplies, changing passcodes, etc...) will be more efficient this way (if they have to concern themselves with internal sabotage, then they will need to work to cure an internal problem while restoring their production line; divide their attention, then conquer!).

My idea of it.
Getting info from a guard can be useful, but I still haven't thought of any good plan to do it in a safe way...

[Kouryuu]

As I see it, Fractal may also go inside, as he can help with 'trix quest (disabling and troubling security, stealing files and programs, planting false evidences [remember that Fractal's specialty is editing files, so he could make false cam recordings and this kind of tampering]). Alternatively, he could try to distract the guards in some way (passing himself as some authority, making false calls from their homes, etc...). Both alternatives are good, and he would be willing to go.

The way I see, it would be important to try to create confusion in the signs of the tampering we will made.  It would be more difficult for them to understand what really happened, and to answer to it. So, our working (destroying the equipment, stealing files, stealing supplies, changing passcodes, etc...) will be more efficient this way (if they have to concern themselves with internal sabotage, then they will need to work to cure an internal problem while restoring their production line; divide their attention, then conquer!).

My idea of it.
Getting info from a guard can be useful, but I still haven't thought of any good plan to do it in a safe way...

as i see it we can see that they are paroling alone, we just need to find one who is not in camera view or who is going home, take him out most likely luring him out ant then taesering him.
no prob if he sees us, he will forget it ever happened
not sure how well will fractal be able to interrogate him as an face, mind-probe would come in handy here. but he is able to make the check-ins if we take the paroling one.

Just thinking:
AS fractal is pretty unique in looks it would be not good to bring him inside the facility to make him safe from spotting. most of us are not as easy to identify as Fractal is.


sorry, but just my thought's, I would like to have all the help inside, i would even go as far as to get me + 4 man squad to take the whole place, destroy the whole security archive, and wipe all memories of Fractal, but it looks we want to do it the sneaky way.

[Sentinemodo]

Getting info from a guard can be useful, but I still haven't thought of any good plan to do it in a safe way...

what do you want to know?

[Sentinemodo]

sorry, but just my thought's, I would like to have all the help inside, i would even go as far as to get me + 4 man squad to take the whole place, destroy the whole security archive, and wipe all memories of Fractal, but it looks we want to do it the sneaky way.

Actually, you never said you want to do it sneaky way, only make sure no one get hurt lethaly. This are difficult, but this are not exactly opposite goals.

[Sentinemodo]

As my character has done it before, Should have at least,  he should know where to find some birds, they are not that rare, but its up to the GM
stun a bird, smash the camera, leave the bird - no problem, changing it will take some time so we could get in easy.

Good thinking and possible. you've got any knowledge skill around that, or you want to use a frozen duck? Failing that it will take few hours probably calling Tabby again to make her call some of her Indian friends plus 200 nuyen for the trouble

[Netzgeist]

In fact, even though as a Changeling Fracyal can be quite recognizable, he has already a way of being a little more out-standing in a way it would become difficult to pinpoint his face again (or the face of any human being in his place, that is). He has a nice set of Nanotattoos, which he uses in a "my body is my canvas" sort of way. So, he may be almost invisible (well, if he had a chameleon suit, which he doens't, or when he is naked, which he won't [since it's not very smart to infiltrate someplace without at least some armor]), but mosty importantly, he can make his skin bear tattoos so impressive looking and that cover so much of his real features that being recognizable would not be a problem.

about the interrogation thing, Fractal would prefer not to kidnap someone, but to fool the person. He is not a good interrogator, but he knows how to fast-talk someone or make the one feels safe to tell things. Something more in the line "my work is a piece of crap, I spent all day long cleaning the mess my superiors do. Don't you feel like that sometimes?" and so on...

And I still believe I can enter the facility with the guards permission, if I can just fool the guards enough that they don't have time to heck who Fractal really is or who sent him... In this case, then I would like to tase a guard out and pass myself as him, controlling the patrols inside as to get the others leeway on the place they are operating...


Answering Sentinemodo's question, the info we want to get from inside involves where could we find the security console, where or who the passcodes to the system can be obtained, if the info we already have is true... things that probably can only be discovered from someone who works there.

And I really liked the bird smashed to the camera idea...

[Sentinemodo]

As I see it, Fractal may also go inside, as he can help with 'trix quest (disabling and troubling security, stealing files and programs, planting false evidences [remember that Fractal's specialty is editing files, so he could make false cam recordings and this kind of tampering]). Alternatively, he could try to distract the guards in some way (passing himself as some authority, making false calls from their homes, etc...). Both alternatives are good, and he would be willing to go.

The way I see, it would be important to try to create confusion in the signs of the tampering we will made.  It would be more difficult for them to understand what really happened, and to answer to it. So, our working (destroying the equipment, stealing files, stealing supplies, changing passcodes, etc...) will be more efficient this way (if they have to concern themselves with internal sabotage, then they will need to work to cure an internal problem while restoring their production line; divide their attention, then conquer!).

My idea of it.
Getting info from a guard can be useful, but I still haven't thought of any good plan to do it in a safe way...

as i see it we can see that they are paroling alone, we just need to find one who is not in camera view or who is going home, take him out most likely luring him out ant then taesering him.
no prob if he sees us, he will forget it ever happened
not sure how well will fractal be able to interrogate him as an face, mind-probe would come in handy here. but he is able to make the check-ins if we take the paroling one.

Just thinking:
AS fractal is pretty unique in looks it would be not good to bring him inside the facility to make him safe from spotting. most of us are not as easy to identify as Fractal is.


sorry, but just my thought's, I would like to have all the help inside, i would even go as far as to get me + 4 man squad to take the whole place, destroy the whole security archive, and wipe all memories of Fractal, but it looks we want to do it the sneaky way.

Without deciding whether Fractal would be going inside or outside, Fractal could mimick the guards responses and Omar send them via communication channels. That would be the most flexible approach instead of replaying previous checkins.
Stunning the guard would give you about 20 minutes before this would be found out. He goes beyond shackle guard about ten minutes after starting the round. then after five minutes he go into second gate camera view. passes it to the lake (5 min), returns (5 min), passaes again before the camera, again goes in between (5 min) and after that returns in view of the shackle guard. completing the round in another ten minutes. after that there is an hour break. before the next round.

[Sentinemodo]

Answering Sentinemodo's question, the info we want to get from inside involves where could we find the security console, where or who the passcodes to the system can be obtained, if the info we already have is true... things that probably can only be discovered from someone who works there.

All right - you need to talk to somebody working there for this question.

[Kouryuu]

As my character has done it before, Should have at least,  he should know where to find some birds, they are not that rare, but its up to the GM
stun a bird, smash the camera, leave the bird - no problem, changing it will take some time so we could get in easy.

Good thinking and possible. you've got any knowledge skill around that, or you want to use a frozen duck? Failing that it will take few hours probably calling Tabby again to make her call some of her Indian friends plus 200 nuyen for the trouble

We are doing it at the water - Harbour I think,
just ask our sniper to take one down with a gel shot. 
I could sneak up on one and taser it
Don't think that it is that Difficult, is it?
The frozen duck thing, do not believe that a dead bird would work.
would you explain how did you think that would work?

[Netzgeist]

If I could gain access to the camera systems, I could make them play some edited images of the guard passing, doing different things... Maybe even drugging himself, if the others finding his unconscious body would be a problem... That's why I though about buying a hit or two of Aisa, so we could drug the tased guards and still frame themselves for their behavior!
That's just one of my ideas, but I may change. Being in a safer position just broadcasting messages also works well too me, and if some of the ones who will be infiltrating physically the place can make a connection for me to use from outside, I would be happy.


Another idea I was toying about was creating an account in the main internal node and leaving three pieces of art related to gangs of the area who have some enmity: something that the node could broadcast (and if I'm corrected, would be interesting to broadcast something with that Range 5 signal...). Then I would made a proposal of a contest of superiority between the gangs, givving the login to the three and challenging them to be the first (or the only) to invade the place and use it. Turn RMD territory a contested zone in a game to see who is the main man at the area. There's the casualty problem, and I'm also putting too much faith in their pride, but there's one idea to keep things not running during the week, and I will still lapidate it for a while...

[Sentinemodo]

As my character has done it before, Should have at least,  he should know where to find some birds, they are not that rare, but its up to the GM
stun a bird, smash the camera, leave the bird - no problem, changing it will take some time so we could get in easy.

Good thinking and possible. you've got any knowledge skill around that, or you want to use a frozen duck? Failing that it will take few hours probably calling Tabby again to make her call some of her Indian friends plus 200 nuyen for the trouble

We are doing it at the water - Harbour I think,
just ask our sniper to take one down with a gel shot. 
I could sneak up on one and taser it
Don't think that it is that Difficult, is it?
The frozen duck thing, do not believe that a dead bird would work.
would you explain how did you think that would work?

no I was just joking
Calico should be able to do it easily

[Sichr]

Sorry guys Im on the bussiness trip to germany, Ill be able to post at tuesday evening.