[JDA]

never mind the spirit of man. I will not be using him right now. Ryker is joining the group for the infiltration in the meat. I will be using low force spells to target guards. IE manaballs at force 2. This should not kill any of them, but should hurt them enough. Ryker grins to himself "no pain, no gain"

[Sentinemodo]

Kour. Sichr. The problem with you guys is that you're both strong personalities. Moreover both of you are VERY active on the forum, both of you aren't native english speakers and both of you write faster than you think sometime. I guess you need to work on cooperation. Take into the account cultural differences, age differences and RL issues - Kour, keep in mind he just crashed in a car and I recall some posts about surgery, or heck just look at his profile photo - does he look normal to you? Sichr - you got 18 - that is EIGHTEEN smites on your profile already that is one every 70 posts you make, that is something to think about as you may be crossing the line to often (mind, you I've never witnessed anything to smite you for, but I've strange sense of humour), keep in mind that Kour, sleeps in a different patterns, and some of his posts are written in the middle of the night and that he has an exam session running. He pump the posts in three or so games at the rate I am taking breaths (hell he is almost making as many posts daily as I am )does it look normal to you?

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Kour. MOST of the game ideas so far were yours or influenced by you (early scouting scene, the kidnapping scene, bird scene, security center scene) the argument of your ideas being scrapped missed the point IMO. I have hell of the NPCes already. If you need a break, we should do one, if no please clarify me what are you doing, because the stunt I *think* you want to do looks pretty complicated, and I don't want to make mistake here.

Sichr, I need to know what are you planning Omar to do regardless, of what Sam will be doing. He got your memo. Let's play some shadowrun.

[Kouryuu]

This is where I got pissed of.
You are not fighter, but you want to fight...and you tell me to join you in that...

the thing i meant there was that you say that you want me to go in a room where my chances to avoid a conflict are slimm but you did not want come to be the back up.
we might have misunderstood each other.
i wanted to take the room so i eliminate the possible back up from behind.
i wanted you around so I might risk infiltrating the big room so in case i get discovered i am not alone with cursor.

A i take the eletro line room

B you join me and i try to sneak in the main with cursor and plant some explosives, hoping on Fractal to disable lights and ask the people to leave for somwhere, but not sure if it's possible

you decide.
i am up for both approaches just be there if i need backup.
dealing damage is easy, taking not so.

[Kouryuu]

he stunt was just a question, more like in withc way will the damage be calculaed if i touch the person i tase?
will i recieve the net hits from point blank as well or just the base damage for the electricity the would go trought the body, considering i do have nonconductive armour

and i must not flee as i have the gas mask on so this should be straight forward right, go in tase and wait until the others fall.

And no brake, this here is the only thing where my brain can get some exercise between long and boring typing and presentation making for Uni.

[Sichr]

Gentlemen, I`m realy glad to be in such a the good company here

Sorry if I`m bitch sometimes. It is my job to tell peaople what to do in difficult situations and sometimes I cannot just relax from that when Im playing my favourite game...being my favourite mostly becouse it needs fast decisions in difficult situations

So.I will relax a bit, let people around me breath freely and put my impatience asleep.

I will drive to the building A with my lights off, last 50 meters ill try also to turn of my engine, depends on how noise is in surrounding. D1 will run around the buildings to the entrance of building D, ready to make possible distraction. D2 would follow Sam to main building, but stays in the corridor from security center.

Ill watch Sams back while he would try to sneak behind the guard, and provide cover if something goes wrong. If he tells me that it is impossible to get the job done this way, Ill call D1 to the place, wait until Sam and Cursor gets away from there, target most sensitive machines and use D1+D2 firepower to deal some serious damage.
I would rather delay our discovery until we have our loot loaded and rover ready to leave, so we can leave immediately if anything goes wrong then. That is for timing.

If you touch someone hit by electricity you may not receive full damage, but there is always great risk of being incapacitated by Body+Will roll.

I think, that we may put our heads together and make some spectacular finale of this, please, just wait untill I got home.

@Sent:
Are assembly lines running..i mean, is there belt conveyer or tray roll or something like that?
How fast are the products moving on it?
Is there a way to get the bomb inside semiproduct before it gets on the assembly line?
Is there Fire Alarm inside the building (because the smoke from grenade would probably set the alarm on)?
How we can shut down the power to the lights?

Once Im home, Ill redraw your map, trying to figure out possible LOS fields for guards and personell. Ill then wait for your confirmation, and we would have a beautifull playground for I hope last part of this single intrussion.

[Sichr]

OMG I hate paintbrush :)A soon as I can find normal picture editor I will post the map with proposals and questions.

[Sentinemodo]

@Sent:
1. Are assembly lines running..i mean, is there belt conveyer or tray roll or something like that?
2. How fast are the products moving on it?
3. Is there a way to get the bomb inside semiproduct before it gets on the assembly line?
4. Is there Fire Alarm inside the building (because the smoke from grenade would probably set the alarm on)?
5. How we can shut down the power to the lights?

Once Im home, Ill redraw your map, trying to figure out possible LOS fields for guards and personell. Ill then wait for your confirmation, and we would have a beautifull playground for I hope last part of this single intrussion.

1. - yes - the entire line is heavily automated, but it is also mostly covered.
2. - you don't know that, there aren't any - the night shift isn't producing anything (Cursor, can easily check that with the assembly node) - there are maintenance work being done only - cleaning, checking, replacing, rolls, calibrating tools etc...
3. probably, but see 2.
4, even with Radar, it'd be hard to tell - there are wires, all over the building but to know one from another, you'd need a knowledge roll on architecture or similar. It's be good to assume there are installed. And sicne you haven't picked them up on node detection, nor they are listed in node's consoles, they (if they are) are not capable of wifi transmission - rather sound only.
6. the major switches on the electrical lines to the building - they'd be in the closet room nearby Sam location (not the one with people, just south from it)

[Kouryuu]

2. - you don't know that, there aren't any - the night shift isn't producing anything (Cursor, can easily check that with the assembly node) - there are maintenance work being done only - cleaning, checking, replacing, rolls, calibrating tools etc...
3. probably, but see 2.

so, no "go in, plant explosives, leave" would work, confirms my suspections

6. the major switches on the electrical lines to the building - they'd be in the closet room nearby Sam location (not the one with people, just south from it)

this is nice, this is very nice, got some more ideas, but you probably too
/Sam putting on his goggles for night vision./

[Sichr]

OK. Movement of drones and rover. Position of D2 is desired to cover Sms approach, depends on Sams actions.

Ill try to take my flying minidrone inside. Anyhow: windows, doors holes...As soon as Im succesfull I will try to gather some info:

Questions by numbers:

1) This is supposed to be parts inventory, and the room to the left is Finished products inventory. What kind of access is there from outside?

2) What is this place? Does the workers there have LOS on the main assembly hall?

3) Does the guard positioned here have a clear LOS on the hall? Is he on the ground or somewhere above the ground?

4) Is this the main crane we were talking about?

5) This is the warehouse. Does this mean shelves with parst and finalized production? Where are access points? The guard there, what is its position...is it ground level office, or is he higher above the ground?

What is the level of background noise. I know that calm factory after the shift is almost scary

OK so production is on halt, workers there are working on machines, cleaning, doing maintenace. Would be Cursor able to run the lines on call?

[Sentinemodo]

2. - you don't know that, there aren't any - the night shift isn't producing anything (Cursor, can easily check that with the assembly node) - there are maintenance work being done only - cleaning, checking, replacing, rolls, calibrating tools etc...
3. probably, but see 2.

so, no "go in, plant explosives, leave" would work, confirms my suspections

If you say so. planting a bomb under the machinery or on it's side is only slightly less effective then planting the bomb inside. But probably you would need to place few bombs

[Sichr]

dont worry. Go in, plant explosives, leave would work. Just it would be a bit more difficult.
I see some options now:
If i manage to get info from flyspy, we can:

1. Switch of the lights and enjoy the dance in the darkness...I can imagine you would want to 

2. Create distraction to lure main hall crew to one place, then gas them or stun with the spirit or any combination youve been talking about. Im thinking about doberman dogfight show...I should get them together, walk in the assembly line, show some parade and then gain all attention I could..this would need a lot of false comunication, and I dont know, I want Fractal to remember his realy self

3. Use disguise: if there is a lockerroom, there may be more overalls providing good cover for free movement in the hall...we may use one of them later, so please, take some even if you dont want to try that now...this would be very.....brassy/arrogant/impertinent (choose the right word ) from us to try this.

4. any combination of proposed + anything you came with

[Kouryuu]

If you say so. planting a bomb under the machinery or on it's side is only slightly less effective then planting the bomb inside. But probably you would need to place few bombs

First off all, you all said that taking out a wall is strutural damage, making a big hole in the floor is not? 
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The thing is I need time to prepare them in the position and the power. That i can do but placing them inside the machinery would be tricky as my suit keeps me hidden not the thing I carry. except my Taser that has the same ability as my suit. Further more there are a lot of people there and 3 lines, bombing just one is not enough, but them all is almost impossible while keeping a reasonable distance from civies.

Either we take them out or lure in a trap or get them away without discovering we took out half the security. these are to possibilities, and I guess you know witch one Sam favours of them. The safest one of course.

[Sentinemodo]

God, how I'd love to be a player on this run

[Sentinemodo]

If you say so. planting a bomb under the machinery or on it's side is only slightly less effective then planting the bomb inside. But probably you would need to place few bombs

First off all, you all said that taking out a wall is strutural damage, making a big hole in the floor is not? 

place it ON the line, or just use enough explosives to mess with the machinery, there is quite a lot of bang needed to make a crater.

[Sichr]

So do I think. Even with standard grenade you wouldnt create the hole in the floor, but to destroy the machinery you need only to bend some of their parts for centimeters (even milimeters would be enought). The charge you can mold in half of your hand + detonator for every target is all you need...just walk around and slap it there....
and dont forget,,,chameleon suit is computer operated, it may even be programed to look like an uniform...you may take raincoat over it and no guard would recognize you until its too late.