[fazzamar]

I think the hardmax is actually 15, Pixie (7) + Surge quality (1) + Genetic Optimizations (1) + Exceptional Attribute (1) for a base of 10. Although I don't have my book infront of me to check if Genetic Optimization stacks with everything else. So with that + cerebral booster you can hit 13 logic, I can't think of any other logic boosters though.

[Rockopolis]

Nice.  I'd think pixies are too small, but your cheesemongering is superior to mine.  +1
Psyche boosts it by one and Inspiration Infusion by another...by Dunklezhan's ghostly corpse, pixies are a far greater threat than I'd thought!  I've got to

[Chrona]

Nice.  I'd think pixies are too small, but your cheesemongering is superior to mine.  +1
Psyche boosts it by one and Inspiration Infusion by another...by Dunklezhan's ghostly corpse, pixies are a far greater threat than I'd thought!  I've got to

Looks like the pixies got him

[Triggvi]

First star to the right and on until morning. He must be doing a run in neverland.

[Rockopolis]

Make a quirky Phobia for my character, if with some unfortunate racist undertones, but Neverland would be an interesting metaplane, and a Quest...oh man, Crocodile Shaman spirit quest!

[Triggvi]

Make a quirky Phobia for my character, if with some unfortunate racist undertones, but Neverland would be an interesting metaplane, and a Quest...oh man, Crocodile Shaman spirit quest!

Battling Pirates in another dimension! All you have to do is defeat hook. If Robin Williams can do it anyone can. lol

[Rockopolis]

Ugh, really bad thunderstorm; I think lightning almost hit the house.  I think I'm going to have to unplug everything and resume work in the morning.

Lucky I've got a smartphone, but I can't number crunch on that.

[Kontact]

Are you using starting notoriety from certain negative qualities?

It might drop the social dice pool of some of your faces with addictions and such.

[Triggvi]

Are you using starting notoriety from certain negative qualities?

It might drop the social dice pool of some of your faces with addictions and such.

Mild addiction is hardly something noteworthy in the shadows. Moderate or above is when people really start to notice addiction.

[Kontact]

Notoriety
A character’s Notoriety reflects the negative side of her reputation—
how difficult she is to get along with, how stubborn she is, how many
stupid mistakes she’s made and failures she’s had. Notoriety can also
reflect callousness, untrustworthiness, and any evil aspects to a charac-
ter’s personality that might spur others to steer clear of her.
Each character starts off with a Notoriety of 0—people have a
neutral opinion of her. Modify this according to the following quali-
ties possessed by the character (plus one point per negative quality,
minus one point per positive quality):
Positive Qualities: Blandness, First Impression, Lucky
Negative Qualities: Addiction, Bad Luck, Combat Paralysis, Elf
Poser, Gremlins, Incompetent, Infirm, Ork Poser, Scorched, SINner
(criminal SIN only), Spirit Bane, Uncouth, Uneducated

I think it's a dumb rule, since it only counts for qualities from the base book, but it does still exist.

[Triggvi]

Notoriety
A character’s Notoriety reflects the negative side of her reputation—
how difficult she is to get along with, how stubborn she is, how many
stupid mistakes she’s made and failures she’s had. Notoriety can also
reflect callousness, untrustworthiness, and any evil aspects to a charac-
ter’s personality that might spur others to steer clear of her.
Each character starts off with a Notoriety of 0—people have a
neutral opinion of her. Modify this according to the following quali-
ties possessed by the character (plus one point per negative quality,
minus one point per positive quality):
Positive Qualities: Blandness, First Impression, Lucky
Negative Qualities: Addiction, Bad Luck, Combat Paralysis, Elf
Poser, Gremlins, Incompetent, Infirm, Ork Poser, Scorched, SINner
(criminal SIN only), Spirit Bane, Uncouth, Uneducated

I think it's a dumb rule, since it only counts for qualities from the base book, but it does still exist.

notoriety should happen because of role-playing and player guided actions not some random neg qualities.

[Rockopolis]

Well, you created the character with those qualities.  Somewhere in your backstory, you've acted on those qualities (or have been acted on by them).

[Triggvi]

Well, you created the character with those qualities.  Somewhere in your backstory, you've acted on those qualities (or have been acted on by them).

That rule is really dirty in the game.

If someone is an elf poser or ork poser. There consequences for being discovered. How can you have a notoriety penalty it no one knows about it?

A mild addiction is easily hidden from people. Getting drunk or high once an week. how many of us do that now. That would not stand out

uncouth people are every where. It defines you as a low class individual. They are everywhere. exactly how does that make you stand out.

Bad rep is different.

unlucky is different.

[Kontact]

An elf Poser doesn't have to pretend to be an elf, they can just speak Sperethiel and hang out around elves.

Anyway, the use of the rule is the question, not the quality.  I don't think anyone is arguing that the rule is good.

[Triggvi]

Meat puppet was capped at 15 dice for her social skills.(by the player not the GM). Dice pool is not an issue.