[CanRay]

She was queen of England and Eva Braun i think . .

Hedy Lamarr?

[Stahlseele]

She was queen of England and Eva Braun i think . .

Hedy Lamarr?

?

[Crimsondude]

Damn kids and their music.

She wasn't, AFAIK, Eva Braun. Nor do I believe, and won't ever unless told differently, that she's Sheila Blatavska.

[CanRay]

She was queen of England and Eva Braun i think . .

Hedy Lamarr?

?

Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler, beautiful actress of Hollywood's "Golden Age" and inventor or a frequency hopping system for radio that's still in use today.

Also a de-beaked Headcrab who ate watermelons that causes lots of carnage and destruction in Half-Life 2. 

[Stahlseele]

Damn kids and their music.

She wasn't, AFAIK, Eva Braun. Nor do I believe, and won't ever unless told differently, that she's Sheila Blatavska.

Well, the german shadowrun wiki brings Sheila Blatavska into connection with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helena_Blavatsky at least . .

She was queen of England and Eva Braun i think . .

Hedy Lamarr?

?

Hedwig Eva Maria Kiesler, beautiful actress of Hollywood's "Golden Age" and inventor or a frequency hopping system for radio that's still in use today.

Also a de-beaked Headcrab who ate watermelons that causes lots of carnage and destruction in Half-Life 2. 

*nods*
no comprende senhor . .

[Longshot23]

Hedy Lamarr played Delilah in the classic film 'Samson and Delilah' - a role and performance which, for me, has always defined her.

Admittedly the equating of Alachia with Sheila Blatavska is far less definite (definitive?) than Sosan Naerain.  There are a couple of indicators though.

Not surprised about connection with Helena Blavatsky - I'd bet that the 19th century Theosophical Society was an influence on creating the Atlantean Foundation.  It certainly puts a different spin on the AF.

[Crimsondude]

Well, what gets me about her is that in the immortals' chats Hecate (Blavatska, AFAIK) asks about things Alachia would or does know about.

[Longshot23]

Well, what gets me about her is that in the immortals' chats Hecate (Blavatska, AFAIK) asks about things Alachia would or does know about.

For clarification, did you intend a 'not' in there?

[Nath]

I don't know - given the translation of the Sperethiel name for Crater Lake ('skull of the dragon') blood magic aspecting at that site seems unlikely.  I'm not saying you're wrong, Nath - probably there's a general lack of information.

Remember the excerpt I quoted. The most common dragons in Americas are feathered serpents, and feathered serpents practiced blood magic in the past.

There is another theory regarding that name I also considered, however.

Well, what gets me about her is that in the immortals' chats Hecate (Blavatska, AFAIK) asks about things Alachia would or does know about.

Aztlan suggests "Hecate" knows an ancient language, may be involved a down-cycle hunting of dragons, knows about "Wordsmyth" and "The Laughing Man" personal feud, is older than "Lady of the Court" and old enough to have "experienced personally" Corruption (with one big C), was around at the time of the Great Ghost Dance, has an history of "consorting with the abhorrent" as The Laughing Man put (context suggests blood magic) and finally knows about the original intent behind the creation of Locus.

There is also seem to be some sort of connection with "watchers" whatever they are. When the conversation starts, page 11, Wordsmyth asks "Is the Watcher attending to this?" to which Umsondo replies "I am here." The singular suggests there ought to be only one around (wile Hecate is already online). But later, when discussing the possibility that Domingo Ramos could be "Gifted", The Laughing Man comments "His behavior says he ought to be. Another Watcher?" Umsondo replies "No." and then Hecate continues "Laughing Man insults us!"
Us ?

Loose Alliances, page 79, strongly implies Hecate is Sheila Blatavska.

Dawn of the Artifacts: Midnight, page 8, states Sheila Blatavska gave their Codex to the founders of the Mystic Crusaders. It suggests she is Samriel's boss in the ending short stories, page 56. That woman knows about the artifacts, calls Jane Foster a "child" and considers telling the "Caynreth’im" of blood mages activity to "keep them occupied" (In Earthdawn, Caynreth was the first Great Elve created by the Great Dragon Alamais).

If Samriel's boos is going to play a significant role in Dawn of the Artifacts fourth chapter or Artifacts Unbound, I would hope the Hecate/Blatavska/Alachia thing has been decided for good.

[Crimsondude]

I know that it's been well understood among the fan community since the day Aztlan came out that Hecate is supposed to be Alachia. I know that when Mike M wrote the IE chapter of Threats that was the closest FASA was going to acknowledge the rampant speculation that came with those comments. The IE speculation threads on AOL and elsewhere (usenet, ShadowRN) never ended in spite of, or because of, that.

However, I have my doubts. Some of them are from Worlds Without End. Some are borne from my limited knowledge of ED. Mostly it's just a combination of hearty skepticism and a deep, deep disdain for revealing a mystery that doesn't need to be answered. The fact that she is out there somewhere is interesting enough. I don't feel the need to make her quite as impetuous as some other who need not be named.

[CanRay]

Bah, kids today, have to have everything handed to them, can't do any problem solving or puzzling out of their own.  Can't have any mysteries or anything.  Everything has to be predigested pap.

You'd think with Shadowrun it'd be different, considering the source material and where it comes from.

*Continues to rant while waving a cane*

[Crimsondude]

I've been playing this game (the speculation one) online for a long, long time. I cannot think of satisfying reveal in all of that time. Not that there are two dozen or less immortals elves. Not the cause of the Crash. Not anything. I have no interest in that stuff as you will soon see.

What I find fascinating is that Lofwyr's and Aden's interests no doubt encroach into Egypt, and that should have ... consequences.

I forget where Leonardo's base is in Black Madonna.

[Longshot23]

I've been playing this game (the speculation one) online for a long, long time. I cannot think of satisfying reveal in all of that time. Not that there are two dozen or less immortals elves. Not the cause of the Crash. Not anything. I have no interest in that stuff as you will soon see.

What I find fascinating is that Lofwyr's and Aden's interests no doubt encroach into Egypt, and that should have ... consequences.

I forget where Leonardo's base is in Black Madonna.

Funny, it was that ancient connection which really got me into SR.  To each their own . . .

Not to mention Masaru and Schwatzkopf having interest in Egypt as well.

[Crimsondude]

I came to SR pre-ED.

[TheWanderingJewels]

I usually keep the IE's and GD's in the background and have them be the plot for making runs, but rearely do the players see them.....unless it's something which is vital to the Dragon's or IE's interest.

Though I had Excalibur stolen from Harl as part of an early adventure and it turned into a screwball run all over Western Europe as forces from Both the Tir's, Celedyr and a Aruthurian Cult took immense interest in the Sword. Which I actually used as a 5th Artifact for the Dawn Series too keep things interesting