[CanRay]

Marketing, production costs, ability to mass produce, places produced, knock-offs that are available, bribes to legislators to let them pass those particular models from legislation already in effect, bribes to LEOs to "Crack down on illegal/poorly made competitors models"...

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Since we're on the topic of guns, has anyone been able to make sense of how the guns are priced or their availability? It doesn't seem that power level is the only factor.

As usual, the guns are priced on power, bulk, weight, capacity, and add-ons -- smartlink, rangefinder, etc. etc.  The further away from the 'baseline' basic gun, the more expensive they usually are.

[Katrex]

Ruger warhawk fitted with exex and smartlink and upgraded to semi auto. With an adept with nimble fingers (reload the entire drum as a free action)  is my favourite. SURE you dont get burst fire for a whole... +2 damage. But you are doing 7 damage - 3ap with no recoil to worry about which means more called shots all for the price of 1 weapon modfication slot.
Im really not a fan of burstfire pistols. If you're goinf to go for heavy damage, Cyber arms gyro stabilization, gass vents, fullauto weapons, otherwise stick to semi auto.

[Mirikon]

My choice isn't on the list, but I gotta go with the Yamaha Sakura Fubuki. Sure, its a light pistol, but 40 rounds of ammo, treating burst fire recoil like semi-auto recoil is a lot better than most of the pistols out there. The Predator is nice for heavy hitters, but for most people, I gotta go with the Fubuki. It is pretty much a staple of all my characters, except for the street sammy or weapon specialist types. Face it, if a mage needs more than 40 rounds in a fight, you are all royally fragged anyways.

[Medicineman]

Best pistol in the game?
From a Crunch Point of View
its either the YSF with extended capacity (4 x 12 Ammo ) and topmounted Smart (internal is too expensive)
or the RSW with HighPower mod, extended Drum, HM Mod and AP-Flechette Ammo (10K with PB-2 IIRC.
War is a heaven for Powergamer)personal Grip & Ammo selection
from the Fluff PoV
Colt Manhunter or Enfield Merlin

Hough!
Medicineman

[Kontact]

That reminds me of a gun I designed in SR3 using the Cannon Companion Redux rules. It was called the Streetline Single. A one-shot Hold Out Pistol for 25¥. Shot, toss, and be done with it.

Sounds kind of like the 4 winds shotgun.

[Phylos Fett]

That reminds me of a gun I designed in SR3 using the Cannon Companion Redux rules. It was called the Streetline Single. A one-shot Hold Out Pistol for 25¥. Shot, toss, and be done with it.

Sounds kind of like the 4 winds shotgun.

Nice.

IIRC, I even threw a bullet in with the Streetline Single

[Phylos Fett]

Name        Conceal Ammo Mode Damage Weight Availability Cost  St. Index  Legal  RC

Streetline
Single         10 (7)   1 (b)    SS        4L        .5       2/6 hrs     25¥      .75    10P-E    -

Streetline Single – This gun is the ultimate in disposable pistols. It is made out of all steel components, and is best suited for the ganger that just wants to shoot, and then throw the gun away. It is very concealable and heavy for its kind, but very cheap. Comes with a free bullet!

[This gun has a Concealability of 7 for MAD detectors.  Being a Hold-Out Pistol, it cannot mount any accessories.]

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

That reminds me of a gun I designed in SR3 using the Cannon Companion Redux rules. It was called the Streetline Single. A one-shot Hold Out Pistol for 25¥. Shot, toss, and be done with it.

Sounds kind of like the 4 winds shotgun.

Looks almost like the bang-stick gizmo used by John Kelly nee Clarkused in Tom Clancy's Without Remorse to take out one of the drug dealers.  Punched it right up against his solar plexus ...

          "Cause of death," the coroner observed with early-morning irony, "is the total vaporization of his heart.  The only way we'll even be able to identify heart tissue is under a microscope.  Steak tartare," the man added, shaking his head.
          "An obvious contact wound.  The guy must have jammed the muzzle right into him, then triggered it off."
          "Jesus, he didn't even cough up any blood..."
          "No diaphragm," the ME explained, pointing to the entrance hole.  "That's between here and the heart.  We'll probably find that the whole respiratory system is wiped out, too.  You know, I've never seen anything this clean in my life."  And the man had been working this job for sixteen years.  "We need lots of pictures.  This one will find its way into a textbook."

[Zilfer]

That reminds me of a gun I designed in SR3 using the Cannon Companion Redux rules. It was called the Streetline Single. A one-shot Hold Out Pistol for 25¥. Shot, toss, and be done with it.

Sounds kind of like the 4 winds shotgun.

Looks almost like the bang-stick gizmo used by John Kelly nee Clarkused in Tom Clancy's Without Remorse to take out one of the drug dealers.  Punched it right up against his solar plexus ...

          "Cause of death," the coroner observed with early-morning irony, "is the total vaporization of his heart.  The only way we'll even be able to identify heart tissue is under a microscope.  Steak tartare," the man added, shaking his head.
          "An obvious contact wound.  The guy must have jammed the muzzle right into him, then triggered it off."
          "Jesus, he didn't even cough up any blood..."
          "No diaphragm," the ME explained, pointing to the entrance hole.  "That's between here and the heart.  We'll probably find that the whole respiratory system is wiped out, too.  You know, I've never seen anything this clean in my life."  And the man had been working this job for sixteen years.  "We need lots of pictures.  This one will find its way into a textbook."

Heh that's a good one.

[tzizimine]

Since we're on the topic of guns, anyone know the ranges for the Supe Squirt? Using that with Slab to force comatose status is almost better than a kill shot.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Since we're on the topic of guns, anyone know the ranges for the Supe Squirt? Using that with Slab to force comatose status is almost better than a kill shot.

Not as good as a heavy pistol, I'm sure.  Pop 'em with a chem round loading Slab if you're gonna go that way.  Only problem with chem is that even the fastest take a few seconds, which means they have until the end of the turn ...

[Dr. Meatgrinder]

Since we're on the topic of guns, anyone know the ranges for the Supe Squirt? Using that with Slab to force comatose status is almost better than a kill shot.

It's hidden in the fluff:

This popular non-lethal weapon fires dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO, a carrier that forces the skin to absorb chemicals) gel packs that can deliver a chemical substance over light pistol ranges.

[tzizimine]

Thanks, Fringe

[Zilfer]

Since we're on the topic of guns, anyone know the ranges for the Supe Squirt? Using that with Slab to force comatose status is almost better than a kill shot.

Not as good as a heavy pistol, I'm sure.  Pop 'em with a chem round loading Slab if you're gonna go that way.  Only problem with chem is that even the fastest take a few seconds, which means they have until the end of the turn ...

What about if you catch them in a surprise round?