[Argent]

It's also worth pointing out that the inverse is also true.  Players may doggedly refuse to pick up on the clues a GM means to leave for them, but players will, in the same vein, still absolutely blindside their GM from time to time with a brilliant solution to a problem that the GM never saw coming.

Oh, life.  You zany, unpredictable, scamp.

To me that's just part of what makes Shadowrun so darn fun.

[Mirikon]

I'm fairly certain that more people know about Red Rock than know about Shadowrun.  It kicked off U2 as a concert band and Under a Blood Red Sky went triple platinum in the US and England, platinum in other countries. That album sold more than 5 million copies. I'm not saying that Shadowrun Characters should know about it, although I'll bet you'd find D had some pull there through his entertainment company.  What I am saying is that it isn't some mysterious place I pulled out of my posterior.  I'm also saying that when PotD came out, in 1996, the writers had grown up in a musical era colored by U2.

More old people know about Red Rock than Shadowrun, certainly. But when I was growing up, you know where the big name bands played? Stadiums. The same ones they put football teams in on Sundays. Oh, and the Hard Rock Cafe. With the advent of internet radio, I honestly don't need to pay attention to where anyone plays any more.

[CanRay]

I try to pay attention when people play here.  I like supporting artists and local venues when I'm able to.

[Simagal]

Red Rock is mentioned in Attitude, in the Centaur music section.

[DarkLloyd]

I'm fairly certain that more people know about Red Rock than know about Shadowrun.  It kicked off U2 as a concert band and Under a Blood Red Sky went triple platinum in the US and England, platinum in other countries. That album sold more than 5 million copies. I'm not saying that Shadowrun Characters should know about it, although I'll bet you'd find D had some pull there through his entertainment company.  What I am saying is that it isn't some mysterious place I pulled out of my posterior.  I'm also saying that when PotD came out, in 1996, the writers had grown up in a musical era colored by U2.

Uhm, I have no idea where this red rock is and I barely know U2. I dont listen to them as they dont play my style of music. the most i know of them is that that bono guy is with them, i i dont really like him so much.

So, no, not everyone knows them and it can't just be accepted that they do.

[Patrick Goodman]

On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....

[FastJack]

On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....

I think you just made it fan-canon, at least.

[CanRay]

On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....

I think you just made it fan-canon, at least.

Flashback scene in one of the fiction pieces in a book to make it real canon?

[Patrick Goodman]

I think you just made it fan-canon, at least.

I have bigger ambitions than that.

That said, anything I can do to steer a thread back on topic....

[Patrick Goodman]

Flashback scene in one of the fiction pieces in a book to make it real canon?

Hmmmm. This could be doable....

[CanRay]

Who has used Dunkie-Pop Popcorn in their Campaigns???

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Who has used Dunkie-Pop Popcorn in their Campaigns???

Who hasn't?

On a related note, about six weeks ago I saw Jiffy Pop (or whatever) in the store, and actually bought a couple of the tins ... anything to keep it going until the Big D can drop by.

[CanRay]

I still have mine from when I used it as a prop for the first game I ever ran.

The group couldn't believe what they were hired to steal.

[CitizenJoe]

On a related, but separate, note: I had a huge, "Live Aid" scale, Dunkelzahn tribute concert occur in my game in early '58. Mercurial was there, Concrete Dreams was there. Shield Wall didn't re-form, but several members were there and wound up playing on stage together for the first time in a while. Have to figure out a way to make some of that canon somehow....

If this occurred at Red Rocks, then there's a good chance that it was funded with at least part of the treasure horde found there.

ATTENTION! To any and all persons capable of discovering "where a Rock meets the Sky," the 2 million nuyen, amulets and weapons at that place are yours for the keeping provided that you accomplish the task described in the enclosed datachips within 1 year of my demise. The anime will accompany you to make sure the job is done properly. Because this endeavor is of special personal interest to me, I have taken numerous precautions to assure its completion.

The task may have been the reformation of Shield Wall, or maybe just a farewell performance by Mercurial.

[Patrick Goodman]

Not at Red Rocks. At RFK Stadium, or its successor, in DeeCee. There were many dragons in attendance before it was all over. Very impressive sight on the rim of the stadium like that.

There is nothing definitive about "Rock Meets the Sky" having anything to do with Red Rock, especially in canon. Interesting theory, but there's nothing canonical supporting it.