[Netzgeist]

Sorry, guys, I haven't been able to follow the threads efficiently for the last two days (as I am in a hard and tiresome part-time job which will end by Wednesday).

Sent, there's one thing I didn't understand: when you say we have no need to worry about initiatives right now, but still keep acting in Combat Turns, do this mean we can act in any order, so long as the action takes just a CT?

[Sentinemodo]

I only meant that you don't act like you have twenty minutes to act. just expect that I could interrupt.
but as of now there is nothing happening, and you broke the encryption

[Sentinemodo]

Sichr,

I don't think there is anything about that in the rules.
What happens, if you have Response reduced due to Reality Filters?
Does it mean, that ALL programs slows down, and as such System degrades (because Response limits system) and as such program ratings degrade as well as the capacity?

Is it acceptable or will you explode?

Netz, until further notice, as of now you have only your response reduced, no further limitations imposed

[Netzgeist]

Haven't checked it. if you have no reality filters, you got no save on this

Note that it's not that I have no Reality Filter program... Fractal has it, and it's cutting edge. The thing is that it was not running at the time.

Also, maybe this bit of rules data will help on sorting the response reduction issue:

[...] A running program counts against the device’s processor limit. For every (processor limit) programs running on a device (not including persona programs but including agents), the device’s Response rating is temporarily reduced by one; this Response loss does not affect the device’s maximum System rating. A commlink has a processor limit equal to its System rating.[...]

I know it's not the same situation (it was not the amount of programs that reduced the Response as in this rules fragment), but still...

[Sichr]

Sichr,

I don't think there is anything about that in the rules.
What happens, if you have Response reduced due to Reality Filters?
Does it mean, that ALL programs slows down, and as such System degrades (because Response limits system) and as such program ratings degrade as well as the capacity?

Is it acceptable or will you explode?

Netz, until further notice, as of now you have only your response reduced, no further limitations imposed

You know...What happens if you have program r. 5 on response 3 device. Are you able to run it without optimization? Or are you able to run it but on the response level? Or does the sysetm rating matter in this situation? IDN. Comfortable with anything. Not able to post , bussiness trip to Ggermany from tomorow and then weekend on self-defense training, so maybe in hotel but sporadicaly...

[Sentinemodo]

Haven't checked it. if you have no reality filters, you got no save on this

Note that it's not that I have no Reality Filter program... Fractal has it, and it's cutting edge. The thing is that it was not running at the time.

Also, maybe this bit of rules data will help on sorting the response reduction issue:

[...] A running program counts against the device’s processor limit. For every (processor limit) programs running on a device (not including persona programs but including agents), the device’s Response rating is temporarily reduced by one; this Response loss does not affect the device’s maximum System rating. A commlink has a processor limit equal to its System rating.[...]

I know it's not the same situation (it was not the amount of programs that reduced the Response as in this rules fragment), but still...

I was browsing the description of Nuke program. and I am reaching a conclusion, that it is a system that limits the program ratings, but we have it specific in RAW that response reduction isn't limiting System.
.
In other words.
Response reduction DO NOT affect System. If you have Response reduced for some reason to lets say 3, but your base Response is 5. You can run System up to 5 and if you do you can run programs of up to rating 5. If you have System 6 it is limited to rating 5.
System reduction DO affect programs. If you happen to have System 5 and programs rating 6, they are limited to rating 5 (some functionalities are unavailable due to system limitations).
If you happen to have System reduced for some reason (like in the Nuke case), you automatically suffer from processor limit (number of programs available at once is equal to modified System rating per modified response) and subscription limit (equal to twice the modified system rating). Your programs are also automaticaly limited to rating allowed by the new system rating.

[Netzgeist]

Omar to the rescue! hehehehe.

I don't even know if you need to spoof your command; if it's something that a security user can do, you should be able to as well. And if the Agent Program finds it out, Fractal is more than ready to crash him.

[Sichr]

Agents and IC cannot be crashed, only Attacked. But you may crash that reality filter if the spoof dont work.

[Netzgeist]

I'm not doubting you, but where can I find the reference for this?

[Sentinemodo]

Agents and IC cannot be crashed, only Attacked. But you may crash that reality filter if the spoof dont work.

Crash Program (Exploit)
You initiate an attack on a running program that is not an agent, persona,
or other icon with a Condition Monitor. The target program
must be running in the same node as your icon or run by an icon that is
in the same node as your icon. Make an Opposed Hacking + Exploit vs.
the target’s Firewall + System. If you succeed, you crash the program,
which changes its status from running to loaded.

[Sentinemodo]

Beat you

[Sichr]

Ive seen nothin 

[Netzgeist]

Really did. I don't know how I missed this.

[Sichr]

@Sent: You see, I beat you

@Netz: What I see everyone else see. And I see shit coming down the tube and you are the only one with Edit loaded :O

[Sichr]

Q: Since we have mutual subscriptions, Am I able to use program running on another node Im subscribed at? Like Fractals Edit?