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Larzarus

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« Reply #525 on: <01-02-12/0425:26> »
The last message you are talking about was only to Fractal and Mouse and as far as I understood it from Sent, Sam is going to be shoot in the next CT.

What are the two doberman drones doing by the way? If they are jumping in to distract the rail drone, Lips want fire in the area.


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« Reply #526 on: <01-02-12/0431:15> »
But you are right, the two messages before are only a few IP old.

1) On the one side: rolled is rolled and Lips has already fired the spell.

2) On the other side, Lips most likely doesn't has forgot  Omars loud comand to stay down only few seconds ago. A mistacke from me and not from Lips.

@ Sent, Sichr: Hence, what should I do? Remove the spell casting post or not?

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« Reply #527 on: <01-02-12/0435:16> »
Sending in dobermans to distract the drone will lead only to their destruction. And..more to it, it will take some actions that I dont have, and Mouse also made his decision. Since we are going in Peacefull way, LMG is loaded with non lethal ammo, so probability that the armored target will be harmed is minimal. Reloading will take actions which I dont have. Ill jack in in the next CT, and as we are three matrix capable operatives, I hope that we will be able to crash the node or do anything soon enought to keep Sam alive. That is what I am thinking. Sam made a mistake. As soon as we follow his example by making more mistakes, there will be more people harmed than just one.
And you are right, the last PAN message was text only, well it follows about 3 seconds later after those loudly yelled, and has its piurpose...loading and running programs takes actions, time which may be essential when doing the hack.

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« Reply #528 on: <01-02-12/0436:43> »
Sichr, Larz, there is no way  for any of you to know if SAM will be shot THIS (not next) Initiative Pass or if there is not such clause.

And while Omar decided to stick to the plan and let Sam face the consequences of his (understandable even if disastrous) action, Lips and Fractal and possibly Mouse DO try to save him.

What are the two doberman drones doing by the way? If they are jumping in to distract the rail drone, Lips want fire in the area.

They are prone (after previous suppresive fire) doing nothing.

But you are right, the two messages before are only a few IP old.

1) On the one side: rolled is rolled and Lips has already fired the spell.

2) On the other side, Lips most likely doesn't has forgot  Omars loud comand to stay down only few seconds ago. A mistacke from me and not from Lips.

@ Sent, Sichr: Hence, what should I do? Remove the spell casting post or not?

Keep it for a moment, I have a problem of missing LOS (need to consult the rules), but if the action is legal it is done.
Sorry for a small delay ;)

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« Reply #529 on: <01-02-12/0442:57> »
But you are right, the two messages before are only a few IP old.

1) On the one side: rolled is rolled and Lips has already fired the spell.

2) On the other side, Lips most likely doesn't has forgot  Omars loud comand to stay down only few seconds ago. A mistacke from me and not from Lips.

@ Sent, Sichr: Hence, what should I do? Remove the spell casting post or not?

Well, I cant blame you, everything is a bit foggy in last two weeks and those few seconds are spread over the long time...even the year in the date is different :)
Sorry for explosion...you maybe get used to it ;)
Also...since I dont know how far Im from drones IDN if I get caught bythe fire, it was just an act of despair. Getting back to work after new year really didnt made my day :P
Im calm and peacefull once again waiting for GM

(Is this really happening? Most complications we made ourselves?? :P)
« Last Edit: <01-02-12/0504:06> by Sichr »

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« Reply #530 on: <01-02-12/0444:00> »
Okay, I will be back in some 2h or so, reallife work.

If the spell isn't legal after all, I would use the rolls from the napalm spell for an other spell and let Lips levitate the whole stone heap (or at least, as much as he can carry with a force 4 spell, which would make no drain damage then) and use it as a shild to move forward to Sam. A moving stone wall should have a higher priority than a unconsicouse body. Hopefully the drone also has to reload at some point.

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« Reply #531 on: <01-02-12/0451:15> »
What about levitating Sam back to us? IDN how fast the levitation flies the object, well it may get him out of the reach soon enought...Also...sprits have ist powers, dont forget them. Calling the spirit and commanding it to cause Accident on drones my lead to weapon jam or something like that (if its possible)...
Understand...no matter possible sentiments, even Omar understands that Sam is one of columns of the teams performance. He just dont see any other way than to finish the task as planned...by his opinoon the most efficient way...
« Last Edit: <01-02-12/0517:13> by Sichr »

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« Reply #532 on: <01-02-12/0504:47> »
Keep it for a moment, I have a problem of missing LOS (need to consult the rules), but if the action is legal it is done.

The LOS problem affect both the Napalm and Levitate spell (either targetting Sam or heap of rocks - which by the way can't be targetted - you could lift a single rock, maybe pick up the one close to the ground to force them to roll over Sam.

There is a 50 or 100 meter of complete darkness, that is only lit by a machinegun fire and strobo flashes of the searchlights.

I am leaning toward the opinion, that if Lips have flare compensation he could make a perception roll (-2 distance modifier, +visual enhancements rating) treshold 2, and that there is no possibility to lock on drones (they do not lighten themselves).
Sorry for a small delay ;)

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« Reply #533 on: <01-02-12/0513:07> »
What about levitating Sam back to us? IDN how fast the levitation flies the object, well it may get him out of the reach soon enought...Also...sprits have ist powers, dont forgget them. Calling the spirit and commanding it to cause Accident on drones my lead to weapon jam or something like that (if its possible)...
Understand...no matter possible sentiments, even Omar understands that Sam is one of columns of the teams performance. He just dont see any other way than to finish the task as planned...by his opinoon the most efficient way...

I won't go now into possible solutions. we can discuss it after the scene.

As for the spirits, calling them takes complex action, then free to give command. Then (starting from the next IP) they could use their power. still this is at least one Initiative Pass too late.

Sorry for a small delay ;)

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« Reply #534 on: <01-02-12/0522:03> »
(Is this really happening? Most complications we made ourselves?? :P)

Yep :P

btw. there is 100 meters distance - the crawler drone is in mutual signal range? (please don't tell me it isn't)
Sorry for a small delay ;)

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« Reply #535 on: <01-02-12/0619:16> »
Int 4 + Perception 1 + Gear 3 + Perceptive 2 - Modifier 2 = 8 dice

Hence, Lips can buy himself the result.

Alternatively: Dice Roll Result: 8d6.hits(5): [13151436]

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« Reply #536 on: <01-02-12/0621:35> »
I must be dreaming some kind of fucking nightmare
Plan was to take the microdrone to the vehickle and disable it via hack
Omar about twice loudly and one trought PAN say that he is almost there. Now, dditionaly to one that feels like one shot=one kill hero begin shooting his pistol while microdrone is trying to get there, another begin to spray napalm all over, most probably hitting everything around with fire. So instead of final action when the drone jacks into the line, Omar possibly suffers damage from destroyed microdrone and will also be physicaly harmed by dumpshock. No matter how much he comunicates with others, no matter what he says, people he is working with dont listen (or players eventualy don`t read or pretends they are not informed)

EDIT: Removed some nice words Ive used to keep this civilized  :-X

Well, I can just once again state that Sam did this to help, partly my mistacke as i asumed je has good cover. Omar call to stand down came to late, there was no more stoping the circle.
And, Sam only fired, once he restarted his com. He could not see, or talk to the team. Seconds after realesing the bug there was gunfire,

By the. way, who assumed that Sam realeased it anyway?
Do not remember doing it myself. As i had the wish to go even further.

With no actall knowlage on the others, the com restarting, Sam took the attention of the dtones on him, in the mindset that someone from. The team might be under attack.
So much for the situation from Sams prospective.

It was meant as a bit of RP, but ened up costing a lot more then I would ever expected.

I, Kouryuu, am very thankful for what you are doing for Sam, but remember not to Metagame.
You are not sure if Sam is live or not.
Lips - you care for your spirits and sam is a stranger, sacrificing one of them while not sure Sam is alive.

Even if that would mean enroling a new char, remember it's shadowrun, so Omar is right here.
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« Reply #537 on: <01-02-12/0632:05> »
Int 4 + Perception 1 + Gear 3 + Perceptive 2 - Modifier 2 = 8 dice

Hence, Lips can buy himself the result.

Alternatively: Dice Roll Result: 8d6.hits(5): [13151436]

Assuming, you got flare compensation, you can cast a spell on rock or Sam.
Sorry for a small delay ;)

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« Reply #538 on: <01-02-12/0640:51> »
Well, I can just once again state that Sam did this to help, partly my mistacke as i asumed je has good cover. Omar call to stand down came to late, there was no more stoping the circle.
you have good cover - good cover isn't total cover.

whatever Omar yelled was AFTER you shoot

only Omar/Mouse at the point of shooting could have done anything as they were in matrix speed. You were downed the same CT as you started shooting, Lips and Fractal really had no say about this.
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And, Sam only fired, once he restarted his com. He could not see, or talk to the team. Seconds after realesing the bug there was gunfire,
the comm restarting didn't even finish yet. we are two CT after you started shooting, and restarting take several CTs
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By the. way, who assumed that Sam realeased it anyway?
Do not remember doing it myself. As i had the wish to go even further.

I did - there was a posting spree -you were in position, and Omar was jumped in (with a strong enough signal to overcome your jamming) so he just crawled away - he did crawled for 50 meters (taking several minutes to get there) - during this time Fractal was throwing rocks to provide distraction. After this time (and after the crawler arrived under the car) drones decided to take care about that constant rattle of rocks, which you took for 'team under attack' condition.

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With no actall knowlage on the others, the com restarting, Sam took the attention of the dtones on him, in the mindset that someone from. The team might be under attack.
So much for the situation from Sams prospective.

It was meant as a bit of RP, but ened up costing a lot more then I would ever expected.

I, Kouryuu, am very thankful for what you are doing for Sam, but remember not to Metagame.
You are not sure if Sam is live or not.
Lips - you care for your spirits and sam is a stranger, sacrificing one of them while not sure Sam is alive.

Even if that would mean enroling a new char, remember it's shadowrun, so Omar is right here.

Actually Lips know you're alive - he was assensing you or at least seen your aura while in Astral calling the spirit - he is the only one I think who knows you're alive..
Sorry for a small delay ;)

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« Reply #539 on: <01-02-12/0655:44> »
I going from the standpoint of Mouse not really knowing what is going on other than the bug inching its way closer to its destination. When Omar suggests to go to AR, then Mouse is able to perceive the things going on around him. I figured that he noticed Sam down, probably alive if things are materializing out of thin air to attack the drones. Not knowing what else to do at the time, he decides to continue with the hack plan. Therefore threading the complex form. He then gets the idea of throwing flares, chem sticks, or rocks to keep the drones ocupied on moving targets instead of Sam. However, once Unca Omar is ready, he will be there to go in. He didn't know that the SMG Dobbey has didn't have letal rounds. :o 

 

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