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« on: <03-01-12/2048:23> »
This is simultaneously my first post and my first Technomancer (Really my first non-combat oriented character period).  You guys always have good ideas so I figured I would check with you all for a review.  (Modified:) I forgot to include his basic concept.  A dryad for Tir Na Nog.  He's a muscian that's part of the character (hence Day Job and Fame and Artisan as a skill).  Probably would be good to let you all know that.

== Info ==
Street Name: Incubus
Name: Aedan Lowe
Movement: 10/25, Swim: 6
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0
Elf (Dryad) Male Age 25
Height 1.80M Weight 79Kg
Composure: 11
Judge Intentions: 11
Lift/Carry: 5 (15 kg/10 kg)
Memory: 8
Nuyen: 0

== Attributes ==
BOD: 4
AGI: 4
REA: 1
STR: 1
CHA: 7
INT: 4
LOG: 4
WIL: 4
EDG: 1
RES: 6

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   6
Initiative:                5
IP:                        1
Matrix Initiative:         9
Matrix IP:                 3
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         10

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 3
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 3
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Artisan                    : 4 [Guitars]            Pool: 8 (10)
Automatics                 : 0                      Pool: 3
Blades                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 3
Compiling                  : 3                      Pool: 9
Computer                   : 4                      Pool: 8
Con                        : 4                      Pool: 15
Cybercombat                : 4                      Pool: 8
Data Search                : 4                      Pool: 8
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 3
Disguise                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Electronic Warfare         : 4                      Pool: 8
Escape Artist              : 0                      Pool: 3
Etiquette                  : 4                      Pool: 15
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Gunnery                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Gymnastics                 : 0                      Pool: 3
Hacking                    : 4                      Pool: 8
Hardware                   : 4                      Pool: 8
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 3
Infiltration               : 0                      Pool: 3
Instruction                : 0                      Pool: 6
Intimidation               : 0                      Pool: 6
Leadership                 : 4                      Pool: 15
Locksmith                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Longarms                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 3
Negotiation                : 4                      Pool: 15
Palming                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 3
Perception                 : 0                      Pool: 3
Pistols                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Registering                : 4                      Pool: 10
Shadowing                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Software                   : 4                      Pool: 8
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 3
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Unarmed Combat             : 0                      Pool: 3

== Knowledge Skills ==

== Contacts ==
Alexander Delacroix (6, 4)
Colleen Firewalker (1, 6)
Lady Grey (6, 6)

== Qualities ==
Day Job (20 hrs/week)
Distinctive Style
Fame (Local)
Glamour
Low-Light Vision
Paragon (The Black Hat)
Poor Self Control (Thrill Seeker)
Prejudiced (Common, Outspoken) (Sell-out Musicians)
SINner (Standard) (Aedan Lowe)
Symbiosis
Technomancer

== Complex Forms ==
(Tradition: Cyberadepts, Resist Fading with WIL + RES (10))
Armor Rating: 4
Attack Rating: 4
Black Hammer Rating: 4
ECCM Rating: 2
Empathy Software Rating: 3
Exploit Rating: 4
Spoof Rating: 4
Stealth Rating: 4

== Lifestyles ==
High Class Condo  2 months
   Comforts:      High
   Entertainment: Middle
   Necessities:   High
   Neighborhood:  High
   Security:      High
   Qualities:     Free Access [1LP]
                  Ambusher's Delight [-3LP]
                  Lax Security [-2LP]
                  Living by Committee [-2LP]
                  No Privacy, Physical (Rating 3) [-3LP]

== Armor ==
Mortimer of London: Berwick Skirt/Trousers1/1
Mortimer of London: Berwick Suit Jacket (Ensemble)5/3
NuZoot urban fashion (Monobe)3/1
   +Delta-Amyloid

== Weapons ==
Defiance Protector
   +Gecko Grip
   +Laser Sight
   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 0
Defiance Protector
   +Gecko Grip
   +Laser Sight
   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 0
Extendable Baton
   DV: 2P   AP: -   RC: 0
Jupiter Taser Club
   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 0
Unarmed Attack
   DV: 1S   AP: -   RC: 0

== Commlink ==
Erika Elite (3, 3, 2, 4)
   +Mangadyne Deva
   +Earbuds Rating 1
   +Glasses Rating 1
Living Persona (4 (5), 4, 4, 3)
   +Living Persona
   +Biofeedback Filter Rating 7

== Gear ==
Certified Credstick, Silver Rating 1 x3
Certified Credstick, Standard x10
Datachip x20
Fake SIN (Caeru Macguff) Rating 4
Fake SIN (Caein Maclain) Rating 4
Glasses Rating 2
   +Vision Enhancement Rating 3
Goggles Rating 3
   +Vision Enhancement Rating 3
Voice Mask


I'm not quite sure if I understood the Techno aspects right.  I assumed I didn't need a commlink to broadcast my SIN if I had data chips (to store said SIN). 
« Last Edit: <03-01-12/2100:58> by default_108 »

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« Reply #1 on: <03-01-12/2107:31> »
You are right about commlinks, but you want one just so you don't broadcast HI I AM A TECHNOMANCER all the time by running a PAN with no commlink. A cheap one is fine.

Technomancers are tough to build and you hit most of the "trap options." I'd suggest taking a look a the Technoshaman archetype in my sig. I also recommend reading Squee's example of play http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=6281.0 for some idea of what hacking is actually like. The big no-nos:

Willpower streams suck. Hard. You really, REALLY should be a Charisma stream like Technoshaman as a dryad.

4 Agility is 2 more than you need.

Odd Willpower (for the stun box). You don't need huge willpower.  Logic 3 is fine as well. I'm not going to complain about Body 4, but you might drop to 3.

You really should have Compiling 4 and Hacking 6. You don't need Cybercombat; that is what Sprites are for (or better yet, being better at hacking so you don't get into cybercombat).

Someone's going to tell you OMG etc etc about the high loyalty/connection contacts so I might as well get that out of the way. Your GM may or may not be cool with that.

Complex Forms need a rework.

First, never take a CF at anything other than 6. This is because of the loopy way they are priced in BP vs. Karma.

Second, it's easy to think of CFs as "the list of things I can do." This is wrong. It is the list of things you are specialized in doing. You can do anything by threading, and can outsource many things to sprites. Never, ever take a CF that only needs to be used out of pressure time or takes a while to do anyways or that you only need to be "OK" at.

Armor, Attack, Black Hammer should go. Get sprites to do fighting for you (and try to avoid detection using better Stealth, instead). If you are worried about getting e-pwnt, Shield is a much better investment.

ECCM should go. You can thread a little when you need it, which is not as often as other CFs you don't have.

Many GM's consider Empathy Software unacceptable levels of cheese. Check this one. If it is allowed, it is super win times.

You need Analyze. No analyze = blind on the matrix = bad. Remember that you often have to make Matrix Perception Tests reactively, so this is the one thing you can't get away with just threading.

That leaves you with 6 CFs (Shield, Empathy, Spoof, Exploit, Stealth, Analyze) which is your cap with Logic 3. The next two useful-ish ones would be Command (if you ever plan to rig) and Disarm (useful for disarming Analyze programs so you can't be found) if you want Logic 4.

Wear Form Fitting Body Armor.

Vision Enhancements from Glasses and Goggles don't stack.

Resonance caps the ratings of your Living Persona (ie, you have Biofeedback Filter 6, not 7).

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« Reply #2 on: <03-01-12/2212:15> »
Thanks I really appreciate that.  Most of that I had no clue about and thanks for the links you provided.

As for the Bio-feedback Filter thing I have no clue how that even got to seven I was using Chummer to build my character.  Probably clicked something wrong.

Thanks for all the feedback that's good stuff!

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« Reply #3 on: <03-02-12/0148:48> »
Arent Dryads awakened from its origin?

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« Reply #4 on: <03-02-12/0228:03> »
Arent Dryads awakened from its origin?

Nope, they're just a Metavariant of Elves. You might be thinking 'Pixies'.
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« Reply #5 on: <03-02-12/0319:06> »
Aha. thanx :)

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« Reply #6 on: <03-02-12/0340:21> »
I thought Dryads were only female too. I could be wrong...
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« Reply #7 on: <03-02-12/0348:27> »
Well, those from Brokilon were :)

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« Reply #8 on: <03-02-12/1756:30> »
LOL no no they can be male I made sure of it.  Not that suddenly having to be a female character would disrupt my overall theme that much. 

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« Reply #9 on: <03-02-12/2147:57> »
Okay with valued input from you guys I think I managed to put this together rather well.  Well I'll wait and see what you say before I make that statment with any confidence lol.

== Info ==
Street Name: Incubus
Name: Aedan Lowe
Movement: 10/25, Swim: 6
Karma: 0
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 0
Elf (Dryad) Male Age 25
Height 1.8M Weight 79Kg
Composure: 10
Judge Intentions: 10
Lift/Carry: 4 (15 kg/10 kg)
Memory: 6
Nuyen: 0

== Attributes ==
BOD: 3
AGI: 2
REA: 1
STR: 1
CHA: 8
INT: 2
LOG: 4
WIL: 2
EDG: 1
RES: 6

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   6
Initiative:                3
IP:                        1
Matrix Initiative:         5
Matrix IP:                 3
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         9

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 1
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 1
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Artisan                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Automatics                 : 0                      Pool: 1
Blades                     : 0                      Pool: 1
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 1
Compiling                  : 4                      Pool: 10
Computer                   : 0                      Pool: 3
Con                        : 0                      Pool: 7
Cybercombat                : 0                      Pool: 3
Data Search                : 4                      Pool: 8
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 3
Disguise                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 2
Electronic Warfare         : 4                      Pool: 8
Escape Artist              : 0                      Pool: 1
Etiquette                  : 4                      Pool: 16
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Gunnery                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Gymnastics                 : 0                      Pool: 1
Hacking                    : 6                      Pool: 10
Hardware                   : 4                      Pool: 8
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 1
Infiltration               : 0                      Pool: 1
Instruction                : 0                      Pool: 7
Intimidation               : 0                      Pool: 7
Leadership                 : 4                      Pool: 16
Locksmith                  : 0                      Pool: 1
Longarms                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 1
Negotiation                : 4                      Pool: 16
Palming                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 2
Perception                 : 0                      Pool: 1
Pilot Aircraft             : 2                      Pool: 3
Pilot Ground Craft         : 1                      Pool: 2
Pistols                    : 0                      Pool: 1
Registering                : 4                      Pool: 10
Shadowing                  : 0                      Pool: 1
Software                   : 4                      Pool: 8
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 1
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 1
Unarmed Combat             : 0                      Pool: 1

== Knowledge Skills ==
Alcohol                    : 2 [Wines]              Pool: 4 (6)
Art                        : 2                      Pool: 6
English                    : 4 [Speak]              Pool: 6 (8)
French                     : 4 [Speak]              Pool: 6 (8)
Music                      : 3                      Pool: 5
Sperethiel                 : N                      Pool: 0

== Contacts ==
Alexander Delacroiz (6, 4)
Avarice Samsara (1, 5)
Colleen Firewalker (1, 6)
Lady Grey (6, 6)

== Qualities ==
Day Job (20 hrs/week)
Distinctive Style
Fame (Local)
Glamour
Low-Light Vision
Paragon (The Black Hat)
Poor Self Control (Thrill Seeker)
Prejudiced (Common, Outspoken) (Sell Out Musicians)
SINner (Standard) (Aedan Lowe)
Symbiosis
Technomancer

== Complex Forms ==
(Tradition: Networkers, Resist Fading with CHA + RES (14))
Analyze Rating: 6
Command Rating: 6
Disarm Rating: 6
Empathy Software Rating: 6
Exploit Rating: 6
Shield Rating: 6
Spoof Rating: 6
Stealth Rating: 6

== Lifestyles ==
The Tir Skyrise (Elven District)  1 months
   Comforts:      High
   Entertainment: Middle
   Necessities:   High
   Neighborhood:  High
   Security:      High
   Qualities:     Ambusher's Delight [-3LP]
                  Lax Security [-2LP]
                  Living by Committee [-2LP]
                  No Privacy, Physical (Rating 3) [-3LP]

== Armor ==
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit6/2

== Weapons ==
Defiance Protector
   +Gecko Grip
   +Laser Sight
   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 0
Defiance Protector
   +Gecko Grip
   +Laser Sight
   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 0
Extendable Baton
   DV: 2P   AP: -   RC: 0
Jupiter Taser Club
   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 0
Unarmed Attack
   DV: 1S   AP: -   RC: 0

== Commlink ==
CMT Clip (1, 1, 1, 3)
   +Vector Xim
CMT Clip (1, 1, 1, 3)
   +Vector Xim
CMT Clip (1, 1, 1, 3)
   +Vector Xim
Living Persona (2 (3), 4, 2, 3)
   +Living Persona
   +Biofeedback Filter Rating 8

== Gear ==
Fake SIN (Aedan Lowe) Rating 4
Fake SIN (Caein Maclain) Rating 4
Fake SIN (Caerru Doyle) Rating 4
Latex Face Mask x3

== Vehicles ==
Ford LEBD-1 (Medium)
   +Improved Takeoff and Landing Level 2
   +Mechanical Arm
   +Rigger Adaptation
   +Weapon Mount (Normal, External, Fixed, Remote)
   +Clearsight Rating 3
      +Copy Protection Rating 3
      +Registration
   +Medium Drone Sensor
   +Targeting (Shotgun) Rating 3
      +Copy Protection Rating 3
      +Registration
Knight Errant P4 (Small)
   +Rigger Adaptation
   +Road Strip Ejector
   +Small Drone Sensor
MCT Fly-Spy (Minidrone)
   +Chameleon Coating
   +Improved Takeoff and Landing Level 2
   +Rigger Adaptation
   +Signal 5
   +Jammer, Hand Held Rating 2
   +Maneuver (Self) Rating 2
      +Copy Protection Rating 2
      +Registration
   +Minidrone Sensor
Repeater Drone (Minidrone)
   +Chameleon Coating
   +Rigger Adaptation
   +Signal 5
   +Minidrone Sensor

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« Reply #10 on: <03-02-12/2200:57> »
Much improved. 2 comments:

When I said wear Form Fitting Body Armor, I didn't mean just that. Check the Technoshaman's armor (from my sig) for a cheap complete set. What you wear should total to 9/7 (6/6 for encumbrance).

Some GMs may QQ about the dump-stattage. I would rather fix that with karma than cut stuff, but if I had to I would go with Software 4, Computer 1, Browse 1, and drop Pilot Ground Vehicle for that (outsource Hardware to sprites if you need it).

I would have 1 Pilot Anthroform, 1 Pilot Aircraft, and 1 Pilot Groundcraft rather than 2/1, because you can't default on Pilot Anthroform and walkers are useful.

I don't recognize the Knight Errant P4. Where is that from?

I recommend the Flying Eye Drone from Spy Games over the MCT Eye-Spy.


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« Reply #11 on: <03-02-12/2225:08> »
I forgot form fitting body armor only counted for half.  I forgot about the Secure Tech, good call.  Need to look over the rest of these archtypes you have very nice work.

As for the Knight Errant P4 it's in Arsenal pg 119

Spy Games was off-limits as far as approved books from my GM.  So I'm stuck with the MCT eye spy.

Thanks for you help on this I really appreciate it.  I think I have a good bead on this character and how to play it (At least I won't suck when it goes down...well not because of the character anyhow :D)

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« Reply #12 on: <03-02-12/2241:44> »
I would consider just using a repeater drone and not bothering with the similar but slightly less flexible fly-spy, in that case.

The P4 is not an awful vehicle, but it's kinda pricey and Restricted. For "super fast chase vehicle" I would recommend the Suzuki Mirage, which for a Command rigger is better in every way, is cheaper, not Restricted, and can also carry someone if needed.

I would suggest swapping out Networker for Technoshaman. This swaps Code and Courier for Machine and Paladin. Code is good, but Machine is better for rigging. Paladin is just better than Courier.

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« Reply #13 on: <03-03-12/0138:24> »
Code is good, but Machine is better for rigging.

Just as a little extrapolation for D108 on why that is so:

The common interpretation of the Rules As Intended is that Machine Sprites are able to "jump in" to a Drone. That is, they are able to replace a drone's Pilot Program with themselves. Being Sprites, and therefore not limited by physical capabilities of their Node, that means they use their own Pilot and Response ratings, as well as the Autosoft Complex Forms that they can be summoned with, which can surpass the Rating 4 limit of conventional Autosofts.

This means that they can quickly gain dicepools approaching those of a dedicated Street Samurai when it comes to combat and, as a TM/Face combo, you should have enough Charisma to field something approaching a half-dozen of them at once.
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Oh whoops, I forgot to mention that when I posted the character.  I'm using the Technoshaman stream but for some reason it does not list in the Chummer character builder so I wrote down Networker so I remembered it was a cha based fading.

And yeah you're definitely right about the mirage, it's a better option.