[Kayzie]

At 4,5k Micky is definately in, leaving further negotiation to the other guys and gals.

[Sichr]

One funny: Bangbangtequilla: when in IC, adress me Ramirez    otherwise I got confused and taken back to sanitarium 

[bangbangtequila]

Haha, sorry, I completely forgot who you were...
Ah well. Thanks.

[SeriousOne338]

Alright, I do have one quick query for the purpose of expediency, should I bother negotiating/rolling my Negotiation on it? Or is this a hardcap of what you're willing to give us. I'll take it if it is, but if I make a great argument can i earn that extra sum for me and mine?

I will allow it, but next time roll that before making your argument. AKA a reason for me to give more money, don't argue for more cash. Fail verses the Johnson's arguement then try to get more with a skill roll. The reason you got so little in your eyes is because BigGuns failed against the Johnson negotiation.

[All4BigGuns]

Alright, I do have one quick query for the purpose of expediency, should I bother negotiating/rolling my Negotiation on it? Or is this a hardcap of what you're willing to give us. I'll take it if it is, but if I make a great argument can i earn that extra sum for me and mine?

I will allow it, but next time roll that before making your argument. AKA a reason for me to give more money, don't argue for more cash. Fail verses the Johnson's arguement then try to get more with a skill roll. The reason you got so little in your eyes is because BigGuns failed against the Johnson negotiation.

Not so happy about how I failed.  Spending Edge to get something of a chance, only to get counter Edge'd by someone with higher dicepool and higher Edge sucks balls.

[SeriousOne338]

Dude that was the Johnson out of the book. He has a massive dice pool for negotiation.

[All4BigGuns]

Dude that was the Johnson out of the book. He has a massive dice pool for negotiation.

The way I could tell I was counter-Edged is that the Johnson got open-ended, or is the optional rule of Rule of 6 being at all times in effect?

[Thvor]

Yeah, it seemed a little weird for the Johnson to counter-edge, given the significantly large starting dice pool. My impression has always been that edge is for those long-shot cases, not something you use just because it's there. I can't really imagine someone with a 13 dice pool edging the opening salvo of a gun fight unless they feel like they're totally outnumbered and need to drop everyone around them as quickly as possible,

Then again, maybe the GM is following the "NPCs with encounter powers use them as early as possible, since they won't get to otherwise" school of thought...

[SeriousOne338]

The dice pool for negotiation is Chr+negotiation, his base is charisma is 5 and his skill is 5 so 10 dice in the pool. That is with out spending edge, edge just gets you extra dice on the roll did you roll extra dice? or did you use it to get another shot at the roll?

[All4BigGuns]

The dice pool for negotiation is Chr+negotiation, his base is charisma is 5 and his skill is 5 so 10 dice in the pool.

So we're using Rule of 6 at all times instead of just on Edge rolls then? Kind of important since it would possibly change the number of hits on those Perception + Intuition rolls as well.

[SeriousOne338]

I will allow the rule of six for the game.

Also please remember this is the first game I have ran in the way, its a little difficult.

[Thvor]

I will allow the rule of six for the game.

Also please remember this is the first game I have ran in the way, its a little difficult.

Rule of 6 should only apply when edge is being used, according to the RaW.

This entire discussion is based on the Johnson's roll:

10d6.hitsopen(5,6) → [4,1,[6, 1],5,5,2,5,1,1,4] = (4)

Since you used the hitsopen(5,6) option, that indicates that the Johnson was using edge; if he didn't, it would have just been 10d6.hits(5). In  this particular case, of course, the Johnson didn't benefit from the rule of 6, as the one die he got to re-roll failed to score a hit. But it could have.

[Sichr]

Did you noticed that he didnt even get any more sucesses from that single 6 he rolled?

On the other side: "10d6.hitsopen(5,6)" syntaxe means: Count everything above 5 and reroll sixes...which doesnt happen in SRA untill you use edge. Are you sure you can use Invissible Castle right, Serious?

For this negotiation test...Did you guys ever heard about teamwork? I know that this is the first time we met, well since we are trying to get better pay for whole team...I can hardly see that someone is sitting at that table trying to negotiate better payment just for himself, this may be good place to use it...just a little metagaming...it seems that mostly talented for this is Yuri so lets support him with other rolls (IMO this is the way the situation would look like if it happens in real life...everyone who have some gives supporting arguments etc then Yuri closing discussion on our end of the table, addressing Johnson with final negotiation attempt...)

[SeriousOne338]

Sorry I am newer to the dice roller, I guess I made a mistake there. As for negotiation I will let him roll for more cash I'll work it in but it's not going to be in 6 figures when you finish.

I find it really unreasonable to basically demand enough money to make rent off one run that should take a day or two, 7,000 per head is a bit high if you guys want that sure but expect Rockets, RPGS, Sea monsters, and god knows what else. This is a new Johnson perhaps this is a trial run where they might not want to break the bank to see if your crew is worth it? Also doing drug smuggling on the side, I was expecting guns but that's me, will make some more cash but also opens the team to other dangers perhaps the Johnson might not like that. This is the first mission I have plans for 3 right now or more.

[Sichr]

seems Im a bit slow...

Serious: welcome to the world of GMing
A few advices:
1. This is PbP...it gives you a lot of time to think things over, even if you are not well prepared.
1.5: That is not an excuse for being unprepared . Do your homework.
2. Almost nobody would rip your head off because you made a mistake, if you are not sure, ask in OOC, we are all doing this for fun, so we can find a solution for almost anything
3. 2nd also counts if you are  not sure about the rules.
4. You are the GM. If you made a decission, stand your ground. The only thing that can make you change it is direct conflict with RAW.
5. Take it like a girl...slowly due to the nature of PbP, there is a plenty of oportunity to learn along the way and in opposite from the girl...you have another chance if you dont fuck this up completely