[Kouryuu]

Depending on age, the purple streaks may not be uncommon. She does work at a tea house/brothel.

Mouse probably has seen this site on the 'trix here
for having intimate relationship geisha would be expelled,

witch brings me an idea, Fractal is good in editing, we could edit her doing something UN-geisha like and then propose to buy her out of the house service as this information would bring shame on the house.

[snake_eyes]

Times change. this is shadow run after all--a darker place. She may be the traditional old-fashioned geisha. That doesn't mean that there isn't more to this tea house than meets the eye. She may not be involved in it, but that doesn't mean she is ignorant of it either.

[Netzgeist]

Times change. this is shadow run after all--a darker place. She may be the traditional old-fashioned geisha. That doesn't mean that there isn't more to this tea house than meets the eye. She may not be involved in it, but that doesn't mean she is ignorant of it either.

Time changes, but this is a Yakuza teahouse, and the Yakuza are the old-timeys which even in 2073 won't accept females, metahumans and maybe even awakened on their ranks. This guys are bound to tradition.
Also, Tabby said Mayuri was the old-fashioned type of geisha, and the info we got (both from previous knowledge or through Matrix searches) points out that this Aikiwa TeaHouse is a very by-the-book teahouse (the description of services offered does not include prostitution).

witch brings me an idea, Fractal is good in editing, we could edit her doing something UN-geisha like and then propose to buy her out of the house service as this information would bring shame on the house.

That's one of the ideas I was implying with the marriage talking; not that she is into it, but that's something that has not changed over Japanese tradition: a geisha who marries must leave geisha-hood; so it was just the matter of coming up with "proof" that Mayuri is a married woman concealing the marriage from the world (including the house), making her Okā-san knows that the information exists, and then just imply that it would be a very good idea to let Mayuri goes free of the Aikiwa Geisha House before the information becomes public, in order to avoid dishonor.

Of course, we could come with drastic stories, if needed, as the ungeisha behavior you are implying... But I guess this would make our vision on the eyes of Mayuri a little less grittering (and she is a friend of Tabitha, so her opinion matter).

But Fractal's still waiting for Mayuri's answer on if she has any idea, or what the idea of dishonor for the Aikiwa House comprehends.

[Sichr]

Well
I saw Memories of Geisha yesterday
and IMO that part with her marriage may be one of those possible, still, if she is Already Geisha, she is not a virgin and her relationship with man would be undesirable but not exactly the reason why remove her
I would only draw one possibility: If she is well established Geisha, she would have stabile list of clients.
Contacting some of them with medical questions, just creating the possibility that they had come into contact with some ilness...implying that Mayuri may be carrier...and maybe we can get some false eveidence she really is ill...(this would also mean that we need to find out their house doctor)...they would get rid of her pretty quickly...

[Kouryuu]

Well
I saw Memories of Geisha yesterday
and IMO that part with her marriage may be one of those possible, still, if she is Already Geisha, she is not a virgin and her relationship with man would be undesirable but not exactly the reason why remove her
I would only draw one possibility: If she is well established Geisha, she would have stabile list of clients.
Contacting some of them with medical questions, just creating the possibility that they had come into contact with some ilness...implying that Mayuri may be carrier...and maybe we can get some false eveidence she really is ill...(this would also mean that we need to find out their house doctor)...they would get rid of her pretty quickly...

the house owns her, so she would still be working for the house, cleaning floors for all they care.
we need something that would make them cast her out, buying her out after proving that she is bad for their business should work best

[Netzgeist]

Okay, sorry if this ends up seeming like a lecture, but here it comes:

- I saw Memoirs of a Geisha; it was a good movie, and it informs a little about what the world of a Geisha is; BUT, do you know that it does not reflect how the thing really is, right? The girl on who most of the story was based upon even wrote another boook in order to set some events and custons right (for example, the virginity auction issue, which is not a common practice among Geisha's houses). In fact, the marriage thing is a custom in itself; A geisha shall not be married, and if she becomes, she must retire.

- About the thing that the house owns her. Well, that bit is true. But now let's think strategically. All the thing that's on the table is in order to avoid dishonor. Mayuri is a famous and well-sought geisha; why would she suddenly be demoted* to a cleaner? That's not something that does not make suspicions rise, and that's exactly what the house wouldn't want not to happen. So, I really don't think the house owning her would be a problem if she couldn't mantian her geisha position.

- The idea about Mayuri being a disease carrier seems pretty good; the way Sichr has worded it, it would imply that 1) she may have had a kind of contact with a client which went over the boundaries of geisha-hood and 2) well, she is carrying a nasty disease. It's a good trump. But I'm thinking on how to operationalize it:
1 - Feeding the rumor mill is an easy enough way of doing it; but it's time consuming and once the fact is jumpimg from mouth to mouth, we lose control about the dishonor issue;
2 - Creating false evidence of disease could include falsifying medical records or the like; that would involve more legwork from our part and money spending, since not one of our characters is skilled on forgery (okay, the marriage thing could have this problems also, but the way I was planning it, it had no need to).

I'm not trying to toss water on the idea's fires (I guess this expression does not exist in english, but you can get my point), just raising up possible problems we may run into (Fractal would be doing it In Character if we had connection with each other and if we were planning IC). I'm sorry if I got too passionately discussing the things (I don't think I was, but it's difficult to evaluate one's own arguments, specially when most of us have different mother languages and are talking in a second one).

* Being demoted to ungeishahood is a compeltely wrong use of the word demote, as I see it. Being a geisha is not exactly a profession, it's more of a caste, so you couldn't be demoted.

[Larzarus]

Before we go further into this, Fractal should continue asking Mayuri for more details.

[Netzgeist]

He is still waiting for the answer in his first question.

[Netzgeist]

Oh, and just for the group to discuss how I was thinking of creating a marriage story:
Fractal has with him some nice Canisters of Rating 3 Are Applications of Nanotattoo. With them, you could do a very nice tattoo on your ring finger of a marriage ring. Okay, it will no foll anyone that it's not a material ring, but that's exactly the thing: it's a symbol crafted directly on one's skin, and which can be (in the case of a geisha) perfectly easy to conceal with make-up. So much for a secret marriage, okay?
But then, right now, there are two guys enjoying a nice tea cerimony with the mentioned geisha, and by any chance, the white make-up which she uses in her hands could have been careless wiped by some movement, and the eyes of one of these custumers could have met the strange pattern on her hands and got curious. More than that, could have registered that pattern (our googles, the simrig, etc... are some really marvelous things). After that, it's just a matter of confronting the evidence to the geisha house manager. How could we do that? Well, maybe one of us can pass himself as a japanese Yakuza fan, that only wants the best for the organization, or maybe someone may try to blackmail the woman. The important thing is that, once this is done, the only thing the Aikiwa house can do about Mayuri is to send her away.
And in some weeks time, the nanomachines which make the tattoo will be degrade by her own body, so no harms done (also, it's quite difficult to tell a static nanotattoo from a regular tattoo).

So, people, can you help me spot holes on this all, and build it better, or have another ideas?

[Sichr]

- The idea about Mayuri being a disease carrier seems pretty good; the way Sichr has worded it, it would imply that 1) she may have had a kind of contact with a client which went over the boundaries of geisha-hood and 2) well, she is carrying a nasty disease. It's a good trump. But I'm thinking on how to operationalize it:
1 - Feeding the rumor mill is an easy enough way of doing it; but it's time consuming and once the fact is jumpimg from mouth to mouth, we lose control about the dishonor issue;
2 - Creating false evidence of disease could include falsifying medical records or the like; that would involve more legwork from our part and money spending, since not one of our characters is skilled on forgery (okay, the marriage thing could have this problems also, but the way I was planning it, it had no need to).

Feeding the rumor mill would be, like you say, time consuming, well, we may make those people act immediately...

1) we make one of those clients disappear, or at least we create datafile that would tell people that he has been hospitalized...creating such data background may be possible with mouse and fractals efforts...
2) we immediately after this begin to call others from the list, asking them for symptoms. They would possibly give us the answer, possibly not, well alarmed, they may have call their own medic assistant to get some care. Good, this is bonus, our work will cause some income in pockets of a few doctors
3) It is possible that some kind of lead would slip from us during the call, implying that amongst other things those guys from the list have in common is some geisha...not necessarily she is the source of infection, well, we need to check every posible track
4) It may drop into right ear, and some of those guys check the information with the teahouse.
5) Such possibility would be disaster, so I can see that teahouse doctor is on his way there after second/third call...or Mayuri in limo on her way to the doctor (maybe even better)
6) We need to know if they have medic using magic (well since they are Yaks...) if yes,, it would be more difficult to "Influence" If they have doctor who is using technology for diagostics...well...I guess that he would get whatever reading we would like to give him.
7) Only...we need to chose good ilness, so they dont put the bullet to her brain to get some kind of bounty...

Well, this can be our Plan B, we better have more options

P.S.: This is second best use of nanotatoo: some kind of eczema .. symptoms...

[Netzgeist]

I liked the ideas. A lot.

[Sichr]

the good part is, that we can work on both those plans simultaneously

[Sentinemodo]

I'll try to fetch you a bit of infection so you could share with her without needing to use nanotattoos

[Kouryuu]

Sent, how many people does Sam face?

[Netzgeist]

Sent, how many people does Sam face?

At the entrance however two asian featured humans are standing. They noticed you.
I could use that jacket.

Two, it seems.