[farothel]

This is going to be my last post here.  See you all back in two weeks. 

[Sichr]

have a nice holiday

[Sentinemodo]

seconded , have fun

[Sichr]

ok
SO far:

Cyber eye upgrade:
Eye Light system
Low light

New vehicle:
Thundercloud Contral

Repairing D1 would take 4 days, rest of the time I`ll be working on further upgrades. Ill need to do more table calculations .

[Sentinemodo]

ok
SO far:

Cyber eye upgrade:
Eye Light system
Low light

New vehicle:
Thundercloud Contral

Repairing D1 would take 4 days, rest of the time I`ll be working on further upgrades. Ill need to do more table calculations .

1. regarding bike, assuming you buy it through your black market pipeline - it will come in 2 days, no question asked, but it also comes without any kind of SIN so you need to take care of it to cross the borders.
2. regarding eyes, assuming you don't want higher grade 'ware and assuming the eyes got the capacity for all for the mods, you can have the operation performed in the same facility Fractal used or just go to local mall and have it done in the closest bodyshop. in any case this goes under replacement so you need to order new cybereyes complete with the mods you want. Secondly I assume you want the wifi access disabled and only DNI enabled. depending on the essence cost (below or over 0.2) of the full eyes this is either 3S or 3P operation that will take about 3 hours to complete.cost of the surgery is 250 yen, unless you want to stay under intesive care for faster recovery that would cost you another 1000 nuyen per day. you can sell the old eyes on the spot if you take a bodyshop for a 30% of buying cost.

[Sichr]

if fits perfectly into the capacity of my curent cybereyes. IMO done without surgery...
Ill write moe about modifications for the cycle. I`ll use the blackmarket pipeline because of price. Also parts for:
Motorcycle Gyro Stabilization
Sidecar

[Sentinemodo]

if fits perfectly into the capacity of my curent cybereyes. IMO done without surgery...

I don't think so...
I think, that you'd need to connect additonal links to operate new capabilities from the thing from your brain even if it was componentized enough to allow adding such mods, and thus it would require surgery

but I think also that the thing is not car sized to allow putting in and out of components, it's more like watch. you want one with a lap timer, and your current watch isn't sporitng one (I'm talking about hardware piece, not another window on the digital screen and a piece of software) you buy new watch not remove cover instal the read and mechanism to operate it. other example, upgrading GSM phone with LTE capability, yes you can try to remove the old radio and install new, upgrade battery, fix the cover, upgrade OS to use it.... but it's easier to buy new phone, phones producer/telco operators don't even offer such capability and a corner GSM shop won't do it for you neither.

so... in 2070 it's easy 3 hours is the time we need for a tattoo currently and surgery of that scale can be done as routinely as tattoos are done now, but it still is a surgery.

[Sichr]

Pulls out oculus
Instal upgrades
Return oculus where it belongs.
Repeat on another eye.

Most possible damage 3S since it costs NO essence. But Im not really sure why do we go into such details...should I describe whole downtime hour by hour???

[Sichr]

Sorry if Im not in the right mood for talking, which may look like Im rude...Im home, time passess and things are not improving as expected. But I have better moments also, so maybe later Ill be able to return to this discussion with another level of enthusiasm...

[Sentinemodo]

Pulls out oculus
Instal upgrades
Return oculus where it belongs.
Repeat on another eye.

Most possible damage 3S since it costs NO essence. But Im not really sure why do we go into such details...should I describe whole downtime hour by hour???

You need to get better chummer, It takes a week to fight off the flu, or seven days whatever is faster.

we go into details, because this a level of details provided by rules.
I said, that cybereyes are not modular enough to install upgrades, and that you replace the whole stock for new ones with the mods you want.
I said that surgery will take 3 hours, which is unimportant detail really and that it will cost 250 yen to perform which is important.
I said that you'll take 3P damage because the cybereyes have 0.3 essence cost.

new eyse cost 4250 plus surgery 250 -> 4500
old eyes can be sold 850
total costs 3650 and 3P that will be healed over two days, or faster if you get a hold of a mage.

I understand you don't agree with the first point that lead to all further.
meaning that you think that your cybereyes (since they have rating 2, have capacity of 8 and used only 4, and it is goddamn 2070) can be modifed in surgery-less mode.

let's rule it that way then, all cyberware that has capacity and can be modifed is therefore modable.
new mods for your eyes is 1750 yen plus 100 for installation - 1850 yen

[Sichr]

YOU got to be kiding about those new eyes. I have capacity free for further upgrades and now you tell me that : NO, you need another set of cybereyes. IMO you are the one who neds to get better man, what you say makes no fucking sense. Im not the type who is slamming the doors too often but now you really made me think about it. It is called UPGRADES for christs sake! I better log out before I say something bad.

[Padawan]

let's rule it that way then, all cyberware that has capacity and can be modifed is therefore modable.
new mods for your eyes is 1750 yen plus 100 for installation - 1850 yen

Not to get in the middle... but he already said you can just upgrade them.

[Sichr]

let's rule it that way then, all cyberware that has capacity and can be modifed is therefore modable.
new mods for your eyes is 1750 yen plus 100 for installation - 1850 yen

Not to get in the middle... but he already said you can just upgrade them.

I really need to read those TLDR posts to the last word. Thanks

[Padawan]

Haha, no problem. Figured I'd make myself a useful lurker

[Sichr]

Haha, no problem. Figured I'd make myself a useful lurker

For the upgrade: I have really hard time to imagine, that when you need strenght increased in your cyberarm, you need to buy a new one, IMO we follow the path of reason now