[Xzylvador]

B it is.
So yeah, send me a PM with a short description about your character.
I won't refuse any build because it's too combat oriented... just don't say I didn't warn you when your "Huge Troll wielding two Panthers with underslung Grenade Launchers and wearing three layers of MilSpecTech armor" gets attacked by security long before he's had a chance to engage any other players.

[Lethe]

While "B" is the more interesting option, it might be hard to balance the influence of NPCs on the PCs actions and preventing bias. "A" relies on pure strategy with no outside influence, while "B" relies on luck and strongly on the GMs whim.

How will you handle drones? If i buy a dozen flying snipers and half gets shot down, will they be missing in the next round or will they get replaced.

[SeriousOne338]

I'd vote b, more complex less like a pit fight and more like shadowrun just because you can have a character that pack military  grade weaponry that doesn't make then more deadlier.

As for me joining I am thinking about it as a drone operator. I have a plan for a character but I've not finished the build yet.  Or I could make an EX-Red Samurai.

[Xzylvador]

While "B" is the more interesting option, it might be hard to balance the influence of NPCs on the PCs actions and preventing bias.
"A" relies on pure strategy with no outside influence, while "B" relies on luck and strongly on the GMs whim.

True. I guess the good news is that the things I'm biased against, I just try to houserule or ban
I'll do my best to be fair and treat everyone equally... and I'll PM my bank account number to the players that want to be treated more equally than others

How will you handle drones? If i buy a dozen flying snipers and half gets shot down, will they be missing in the next round or will they get replaced.

I was typing: The game's sponsor has agreed to refund and/or replace all damage done to the contestants and/or their property. Not to worry. Other than returning from death requiring a character to burn a point of edge, nothing will be lost.
But then, I'm not sure this is a good idea... what are your thoughts here? A rigger with 200k nuyen worth of Cyberspace Designs Dragonfly Drones w/ C12 mod (that's 80 Dragonflies!!!) would be just insane.
I guess I'll go with the "full refund" for now, but I'll point everyone towards the "No Cheesiness" and "No Metagaming" rule in the first post. IMO a rigger would never just sacrifice his drones, throwing away all the money and time he spent putting them together. A "Oh, they'll all be magically restored later anyway." mindset is kind of metagamey.
If I see this generosity being abused, I might throw in a little divine intervention and change the rules later to fix the problem.

[SeriousOne338]

A rigger with 200k nuyen worth of Cyberspace Designs Dragonfly Drones w/ C12 mod (that's 80 Dragonflies!!!) would be just insane.

Damn you saw my excellent plan.

[Sichr]

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Or I could make an EX-Red Samurai.
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You know...I saw this concept before on one of Mirikons characters, and that had really good background to cover it. I dont want to change ttopic of this thread, well, do you guys really believe such things as ex-Red Samurai, or ex-Tir Ghost really do exist???

[Xzylvador]

Sure, why not?
Don't get me wrong, they'll be extremely rare and they won't just let you walk away, but I don't think it's impossible to escape from them.
Get out as quiet as possible, get as far away as possible and do so as quickly as possible. After that you're bound to have your ex-employers as Enemy, more than likely together with Records on File and Criminal SIN (though if you were really Black-Ops, you might not have been issued a SIN) and maybe Wanted.
But after that I think there's little difference between being a runaway or being 'runner who recently did a really heavy run against a megacorp/government... There's plenty of those, and some actually live longer than a month or two!

A rigger with 200k nuyen worth of Cyberspace Designs Dragonfly Drones w/ C12 mod (that's 80 Dragonflies!!!) would be just insane.

Damn you saw my excellent plan.

I hope you were joking :p

[Sichr]

I also like Nikita well eveh she had some real hard time to get out from section...and when she did, she was way above 400BP
I dont mean that it is impossible to run away from them, but I mean, specificaly in the Red Samurai case, they have real code of honour IMO, traditional japanese bushido...and IM they rather commit suicide that betray or runaway...and ghosts...well..those are ghosts...I dont have any real info on them but a few stats but IMO they are kind of elven volunteers.
Also, if you look Ghost stats...or Red Samurai stats in sample grunts, they are far beyond what is possible with 400BP/750Karma. So the only reason I can see runner is something distantly related to ex-RS is that he had been kicked out during basic training...

[SeriousOne338]

Sure, why not?
Don't get me wrong, they'll be extremely rare and they won't just let you walk away, but I don't think it's impossible to escape from them.
Get out as quiet as possible, get as far away as possible and do so as quickly as possible. After that you're bound to have your ex-employers as Enemy, more than likely together with Records on File and Criminal SIN (though if you were really Black-Ops, you might not have been issued a SIN) and maybe Wanted.
But after that I think there's little difference between being a runaway or being 'runner who recently did a really heavy run against a megacorp/government... There's plenty of those, and some actually live longer than a month or two!

How about a guy that's been burned the Red Samurai have covert operatives I remember a while back when reading some of the Shadowrun novels their was a runner who'd failed and was cast out.

A rigger with 200k nuyen worth of Cyberspace Designs Dragonfly Drones w/ C12 mod (that's 80 Dragonflies!!!) would be just insane.

Damn you saw my excellent plan.

I hope you were joking :p

I was going to have about 10 just to make things interesting, but I think I'm going for a more direct approach.

[Lethe]

How about hacked software? Buying new softs for each drone is getting expensive fast and with drones in the games, hackers are another alternative.

[Xzylvador]

Lemme say it like this: Send me what you think is reasonable, I'll look at it and say if it's okay or not.
I might say "no" to things that are technically allowed and might allow to bend the rules some when things sound good but aren't technically RAW.
Drones are starting to sound more problematic each time I read about them here, so just tell me what you're thinking of and I'll let you know.

[SeriousOne338]

Drones are starting to sound more problematic each time I read about them here, so just tell me what you're thinking of and I'll let you know.

Imagine I run 5 steel lynx tactical drones, they're hard as tanks.

[Xzylvador]

Also about as easy to spot. I won't stop you, but don't say I didn't warn you when security comes down on you like a ton of bricks.

[Lethe]

Personally i am all against drones. Everyone can take advantage of "a few" autonomous drones, you don't even need to be a rigger. Just program them to attack your smartgun target.. Additional attacks with a chance to hit, reducing the defense pool considerably with each attack and they might draw enemy fire. I am afraid in the end wins the person with the most drones... each one being like an extra life.

[Sichr]

Personally i am all against drones. Everyone can take advantage of "a few" autonomous drones, you don't even need to be a rigger. Just program them to attack your smartgun target.. Additional attacks with a chance to hit, reducing the defense pool considerably with each attack and they might draw enemy fire. I am afraid in the end wins the person with the most drones... each one being like an extra life.

OK so no spirits. Magicians are oerpowered that way or another, so why dont limit that...