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« on: <06-19-12/1259:39> »
A player of mine wanted to recreate War Machine from Iron Man. My main two problems seem to be that first off idk if you can actually do the rocket booster flying thing in the game exactly. And that I haven't seen anything about upgrading armor in that specific way. Like adding built in weapons onto armor, etc. Was thinking a stabalizer gyro with a minigun, pilot upgrade, smartgun system and electro trigger with saftey feature might recreate his back gun, assuming the team was all wearing rfid tags to not become accidental targets in the thick. The extra safety would be useful for when friendly security shows up so you can stop the gun from blasting them away by accident too. However I am totally unsure that would work 100% either. Looking for big suggestions here.

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« Reply #1 on: <06-19-12/1334:14> »
What you're looking for is MilSpec Armor from Arsenal, which also covers adding sensors, weapons, and even additional arms to the suit. All of it is way higher cost and availability than allowed at chargen.  As for flying, you're up a creek without a paddle. You could get a disposable jump pack of some kind, or a drone strong enough to lift the suit (I suggest the former).

Any player running around in anything half as lethal/obvious as the WarMachine suit will be dead before they can wipe their nose. That's the point where the Star brings in Spirits, assault copters, and snipers with APDS.

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« Reply #2 on: <06-19-12/1339:25> »
I think the easiest way to achieve this is by using a few already existing items in the game.  It would be easiest to make him a rigger with a drone (Since they talk about how powered armor tends to kill the pilots), and modify the drone to fit.  I'd use the following drone to make it easy

Mitsuhama Otomo as the base of the model.  Allow him to add a pair of lasers to the arms, since the arms can be modded to be like cyberlimbs.  Add a Fixed remote weapon mount with the GE Vindicator minigun, and another one with a Mitsubishi Yakusoku MRL.  Now I know in the movies he only had assault rifles on the arms, but I prefer the comic version where he had repulsors, and the missile launcher is just another thing he had in the comics.  He's going to spend a metric drek ton on outfitting the drone, but it allows him to "suit up" as a War Machine knockoff.  As for the flight system just allow him to use a jump pack of some sort, or allow him to install a flight system that uses 4 slots, and gives the following stats when in flight,

Acceleration- 40/60
Speed- 200
Handling- -3  The reason for the poor handling, look at the amount of time it took Stark from the first iron man to learn to fly the suit.  One mistake and he ends up going where he doesn't want to.  He gets hit while in the air, force him to make a Pilot check (3) or it crashes.

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« Reply #3 on: <06-19-12/1428:46> »
You would think they would have a jetpack somewhere in a book, they have hover feet in cyber stuff.  When you say modify the drone to fit, did you mean get into, or do as usual with the rigging and fly it remote? I do have someone in the group who's playing an adept mechanic, wants to create new tech. They all work for, or have major ties to a megacorp. Perhaps able to get the necessary parts to buld the suit idea. The guy wanted to make an ace pilot who gets the "privalige" of the suit. The two guys could be a team/ old friends. One maintains the other pilots. Thanks for the ideas so far. Hope more come in to give me more options.

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« Reply #4 on: <06-19-12/1440:39> »
The hover cyberware is a joke compared to what your player is looking for. More Inspector Gadget than anything.

The drone idea is probably best, but hes looking at dropping alot of cash on something like this. There are plenty of mods that essentially do allow flight on this level. It may not be movie like, but can get the job done.

Personally, I'd advise the player to compromise on having flight ability (thats what is really killing this) and instead focus on having the armour+weapons. Which are certainly doable in the setting. Once again, check out milspec weapons, shoulder mounted weapons, etc.

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« Reply #5 on: <06-19-12/1451:49> »
I was thinking the easiest way is to do the rigging idea.  It allows the player to mount the weapon systems of their choice and make it part of the armor rather than being something to carry.   I was thinking it allows the "pilot" to fly it without having to be in it.  Remember, being a rigger one only really needs the proper programs and external gear.  If he was an ace pilot he'd already have gunnery and pilot aircraft (Or exotic, which is what I'd have them use,  if he's helped with the development process).   Forgot to mention there's actually a reason I made it 4 slots for the flight gear, he could chose either the flight gear and no armor, or armor it up and add a few more toys but no flight.  It keeps some sort of balance to the drone at that point.

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« Reply #6 on: <06-19-12/1518:49> »
Check out the Lockheed Sparrow from Arsenal.

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« Reply #7 on: <06-19-12/1610:43> »
you could also try something like this,

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« Reply #8 on: <06-19-12/1619:28> »
The Iron Will can indeed make a (non-flying) mecha, but it's widely regarded as super horribly broken so I'm hesitant to recommend it.

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« Reply #9 on: <06-19-12/1725:48> »
i agree it's very broken (or at least not thought through well) but i was just making a suggestion at a possibility.
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« Reply #10 on: <06-20-12/1427:46> »
The Iron Will could make a good base for a power suit of that sort. Hmm...I wonder if if it's possible to mod some flight capability onto it...
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« Reply #11 on: <06-20-12/1434:17> »
Strap a Heimdall or something similar to the back, let an Agent do the piloting as per your orders. That way you've still got all your actions while the computer handles flight. Or, have a TM shove a machine sprite in there.

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« Reply #12 on: <06-21-12/0111:29> »
Maybe I'm being boring here but why does your player want such a thing?
It's called shadowrunning. There are other systems more suited to playing superhero style games in my opinion.
At least in my game a blatant display of hardware like that would defenitely get the security companies to call in really heavy support...

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« Reply #13 on: <06-21-12/1115:05> »
Well 90% of the players wanna play shadowrun, he does too. However he is kinda marvel obsessed. We played D&D, he made Captian America. (Dwarven buckler axe, throw anything feat, returning on the shield, fighter with feats adound defense, etc) We played the 1995 street fighter rpg, he essentially made Iceman. You get the picture... The only character he ever made in our history of gaming was a D&D character based on Indiana Jones. He rps well, just his concepts aren't always "super original". I don't hate.  He feels as though he could pull off war machine for two reasons here, #1 we are working directly for a megacorp. So he figures he could get away with some tech and whatnot and not be too out of bounds, YES he will be getting shot at a lot by me as GM. The team is gonna have to deal with it. He is likely to take Enemy neg quality being a rival corp. One of my other playes has enemy for a rival corp already and it is looking to be that way, so I will use it. #2 he assumes that with the advanced tech in shadowrun it is feasable. He hants to be one of the corps top soldiers/pilot who was chosen bc of his ability to "fly anything".

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« Reply #14 on: <06-21-12/1132:02> »
Ok, the corp bacground defenitely helps.
He could be an AI inhabiting a super drone for an alternate take on the build.

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