[DarkLloyd]

Has she finally Popped thorns?

[Longshot23]

Not from lack of trying. Although  it's far from definite that she was trying to recreate the Ritual of Thorns  . . . You'd think her mother would have warned her.

[Mirikon]

You think THAT family, of all the IEs, is the kind to listen to their elders when they say "Don't do this"?

[Longshot23]

Considering Jenna's mother is still running around as well? Jenna better have a reeeeeaaaaalllllly good explanation.

Mind you, considering the Harlequin-Surehand scene, I'd love to read a Harlequin-Jenna/Sosan scene.

[CanRay]

Shadowrun! We're not afraid to break our toys.

Hell, they're not afraid to break their Freelancers...

[Zunimancer]

Now....what about the stuff up with FastJack?
His mis-remembering that a)Fatima was dead and b) who wrote an article.
His rather un-FastJack like comment at..dev/grrl? Icarus? and then saying he didn't remember
    posting it?
(and that is just where I am right now in the reading)

Not only this. Compromising JackPoint at the head is one element. FastJack is the key element in which we trust about the integrity of JackPoint.
Puck mentioned that he has doubts about the independence of the Denver Nexus. Which, in the end, questioned the integrity of the data heaven also, how much can we trust the Nexus anymore.
Someone is working to discredit two of our main information sources?
Adding the degauss element from "Spy Games" the technomancer part in me gets heavy stomachaches about the future.

Have we any actual news about the Helix?

*Plan9 mode on*
It's a war on reliability of digital informations. The more, a war on our established way to living in a world of wifi.
*Plan9 mode off*

On the other hand I don't agree Plan9 about the involvement of The Order of Skull and Bones. That's a bit to freaky to me.

[PrudentPanda]

Are there any relevant news of Lung, Ryumyo and Shan (member of the executive council of Hong Kong)?

[Nath]

Compromising JackPoint at the head is one element. FastJack is the key element in which we trust about the integrity of JackPoint.

Put it that way, you got me paranoid. Now I fear the whole thing is just going to be an excuse to shamelessly retcon anything posted on Shadowland and Jackpoint in the past twenty years.

[Crimsondude]

Are there any relevant news of Lung, Ryumyo and Shan (member of the executive council of Hong Kong)?

Indirectly.

[The Wyrm Ouroboros]

Compromising JackPoint at the head is one element. FastJack is the key element in which we trust about the integrity of JackPoint.

Put it that way, you got me paranoid. Now I fear the whole thing is just going to be an excuse to shamelessly retcon anything posted on Shadowland and Jackpoint in the past twenty years.

Unnecessary.  It's plot element placement for future work.

Not only this. Compromising JackPoint at the head is one element. FastJack is the key element in which we trust about the integrity of JackPoint.
Puck mentioned that he has doubts about the independence of the Denver Nexus. Which, in the end, questioned the integrity of the data heaven also, how much can we trust the Nexus anymore.
Someone is working to discredit two of our main information sources?
Adding the degauss element from "Spy Games" the technomancer part in me gets heavy stomachaches about the future.

Have we any actual news about the Helix?

Puck's commentary isn't new, really; the Nexus retained its very existence due to Mr. White Scales, which means that even though they can claim pure independence all they want, the fact that he has a direct and indestructable (in the 'cut this and be destroyed') line into the Nexus makes their independence 'so-called'.  They are dependent and they know it; their Papa Bear may not lean on them much, or even at all, but anyone who puts absolute trust in the inviobility of the Nexus is in for a shock.  (And for the record, the Nexus was never a bloody safe place, it was just the biggest and most data-packed.)

FastJack's a different matter; someone is definitely working on him, and/or already has.  From what I remember of side-chat here, he may have gotten winged by psychotropic IC of some flavor during his discussion about detente' with the 'good' people of Horizon.  That, or, well -- Jack's old.  I know we like to think he's had Leonization applied, but do we know he has?  Or is he undergoing the slow slide into Alzheimer's?  Taken one too many hits from the snake?

[Mirikon]

That is true. 'Jack is pushing 80, and there's no evidence that Leonization has any effect on conditions like Alzheimers, or getting hit one too many times by the Black IC. The encounter with possible psychotropic IC likely didn't help things any. I'd say it is likely coming up on time for Fastjack to retire.

As for Puck's commentary, yeah, those concerns have been around since Ghostwalker showed up. And yes, you should count on anything hosted on the Nexus coming under the white wyrm's gaze at some point. But the old Shadow Matrix was never exactly a super-secure place, given that many of the movers and shakers had legit accounts on Shadowland.

[Wakshaani]

Compromising JackPoint at the head is one element. FastJack is the key element in which we trust about the integrity of JackPoint.

Put it that way, you got me paranoid. Now I fear the whole thing is just going to be an excuse to shamelessly retcon anything posted on Shadowland and Jackpoint in the past twenty years.

"He's a giant chicken!"

[PrudentPanda]

Are there any relevant news of Lung, Ryumyo and Shan (member of the executive council of Hong Kong)?

Indirectly.

Any idea, why Lung and Ryumyo are not part of the articles within the appropriate section of the book? I do understand about Shan. He's a small-timer. But the other two are majoer player's, aren't they?

[Marzhin]

So my friend got back from the US yeterday and handed me the precious books. Cluth of Dragons, SR 2050, Elven Blood, and the 2 decks of gear cards

After ready some bits of Clutch (mostly the stuff about the Laughing Man and Ghostie since I'm a big fan of both), here are some thoughts...

- I like the idea of Harlequin being a anti-hero and not a "good guy". Some of the old, nastier Harlequin from his debut campaign is back, and he's pretty badass. I just hope Ghostwalker don't fry him, Harlequin is too good a character to die like that.

- Is it "Caimbeul" or "Caimbuel"?

- Harlequin on Jackpoint, yes please :p I love how he call them "selfish" compared to Shadowland.

- Erhan sending messages to Harlequin to try and reason him is nice, it kinda shows he cares for him... somewhat. Extra points for the "Caimbuel and Erhan are brothers theory" (that and Frosty's comment about "what we now know we have in common").

- Is Zebulon Yuichotol, Ghostwalker's mate from the pre-Earthdawn era that was killed by the Therans? It sure reads that way (plus Yuichotol was rumoured to have remained as a spirit after her death). Funny thing, one of the first campaigns I made for my players back in SR3 was about Ghostwalker trying to use the Crystal of Memories (or whatever it was called, it's in The Big D's will) to bring back Yuichotol's spirit.

- I like how Ghostwalker is portrayed in the last short story.

- It seems a lot of people are being pissed by Ghostwalker. Harlequin, Colloton and the UCAS, the Azzies, Aden, Lofwyr... Things are about to get really nasty.

[Wakshaani]

Yeah, I have to say that the new face of Harlequin is damned interesting. I have no idea where he's going, but it's gonna be one Hell of a journey.