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« on: <08-11-12/0204:40> »
Our team is outfitting a bus as an innocuous mobile safehouse. my question to those more knowledgeable than me is this: how innocuous is a bus going to be on the streets of Seattle?
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« Reply #1 on: <08-11-12/0209:11> »
Our team is outfitting a bus as an innocuous mobile safehouse. my question to those more knowledgeable than me is this: how innocuous is a bus going to be on the streets of Seattle?

What kind of bus?  IF it's a public transit bus, pretty common, though people are going to figure it out pretty quick when you're not on schedule, in the wrong part of town, AND don't let them in~

If it's a tour bus... not as common, but cops get a little annoyed at where you park something that big.
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« Reply #2 on: <08-11-12/0249:49> »
As a Seattle resident, I call tell you that buses are everywhere here. The city has comprehensive public transit, and a huge portion of the population is dependent on buses to get to and from work.

You can avoid the "people wanting to get on board" problem if you put up a "TO TERMINAL" sign or similar indicator that the bus is out of service and returning to base. This could raise suspicion if you're headed away from the base indicated, but only among those who know where the base is and actually stop to think about bus movements beyond "Is that my bus? No? Well, who gives a frag, then?" (i.e. police and metro employees)

Being parked in a place that metro buses don't usually park or heading down a street that metro doesn't use as a transit route is a little more likely to draw attention. In other words, stick to streets that buses normally use as much as possible during your travels. That way you're just another bus passing by instead of "WTF is that bus doing here?"

Tour buses and the like don't follow normal routes, so you may want to switch disguises soon after getting off the main bus routes, but the also draw far more attention. You won't be lost in the crowd in a tour bus: you'll stick out like a sore thumb.

Also, you should be aware that in the present day, metro buses have realtime tracking, and the data is used to calculate estimated arrival times that constantly update. This is available online or on mobile devices through websites like OneBusAway. If they catch on to the fact that you're impersonating a metro bus, some enterprising cop might have the realtime tracking data put up as an AR overlay and look for the bus that doesn't exist on Metro's database.

Now, if you can rig your bus so a smaller vehicle can fit inside it, then drive your initial getaway vehicle into the bus when you're out of sight of pursuit, then have the bus play metro and non-chalantly roll away while your pursuers are searching for a subcompact... that ought to throw them off the scent quite effectively.

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« Reply #3 on: <08-11-12/0258:26> »
In SR, people very often use buses to shuttle wageslaves around, so you can also just claim to be doing that.

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« Reply #4 on: <08-11-12/0304:39> »
That's true. The corps might have their own bus service between corporate enclaves. No reason to make your corporate citizens share space with the unwashed masses.

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« Reply #5 on: <08-11-12/0317:24> »
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Chameleon coating so we can have advertisements for whoevers territory we're in, smuggling compartments to hide our illegal gear, gridlink override so we can keep on the move 24-7, luxury amenities so we can live comfortably, ECM just in case, and out the back an armorers workshop with a nanoforge so we can maintain our gear. After all, they know that most of us live and work out in the barrens, so they're unlikely to search for us right on their own doorstep, advertising their products and services as we go.

i don't think our rigger should have too much trouble programming the pilot to change the ads and displayed information so that it's appropriate for whatever district we happen to be in at the time. as we're not planning to ever use the bus as part of a crime or getaway then we shouldn't be giving anyone a reason to suspect us. (it's more a matter of 'after a run everyone sticks together in safety while the heat dies down'... or that was the initial plan. if you've been reading some of my other posts then you'll realize things are a bit further than that...)
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« Reply #6 on: <08-11-12/0333:46> »
Cameo paint will be a very good idea (though a bit expensive on a bus) so you can change your appearance at will.  I'm not sure how things go in Seatle, but here in belgium you sometimes see busses parked somewhere with the 'out of service' station on, the driver taking a break or something.  And I've even seen the public bus company sell old busses, so you can always claim your bus came from there.  One of those was bought by a scuba diving club who used it as a mobile club house when going on dives (they had actually installed showers at the back and a bar and things like that).
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« Reply #7 on: <08-11-12/1006:47> »
Busses between cities are supposedly fairly common.

Well, they were in the 2050s...
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« Reply #8 on: <09-21-12/2353:10> »
As a Seattle resident, I call tell you that buses are everywhere here. The city has comprehensive public transit, and a huge portion of the population is dependent on buses to get to and from work.

You can avoid the "people wanting to get on board" problem if you put up a "TO TERMINAL" sign or similar indicator that the bus is out of service and returning to base. 
My only question is, why would you? It's extra Nuyen on the way to a run and free hostages on the way back!
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« Reply #9 on: <09-22-12/0254:58> »
Don't use a bus.

Use a garbage truck.

Nobody looks twice at garbage trucks. Even cops don't wanna get too close, especially if the outside smells appropriately.



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« Reply #10 on: <09-22-12/0339:00> »
too late, already done.
Oh, and it worked like a charm. 2 weeks of knight errant manhunt due to an idiot move by one of our characters (who ended up having to burn everything and start fresh) and they didn't catch on... though it helped that they were searching Redmond as we cruised through downtown :)
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« Reply #11 on: <09-22-12/0713:35> »
I once played a meet out in a city bus ... ahh, good times.
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« Reply #12 on: <09-22-12/1300:31> »
"See, I told the city, I said "Look, nobody comes down here."  Postmen figured it out.  Policemen figured it out.  But the goddamned bus drivers just wouldn't listen." - Simon Phoenix, Demolition Man
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