NEWS

The thing that should not be.

  • 10 Replies
  • 3720 Views

cyclonus743

  • *
  • Newb
  • *
  • Posts: 92
  • Is this whats left of the mighty Decepticons
« on: <10-05-12/1336:58> »
So i'm kicking some ideas around for running a 2050 game. And one of my players, a notorious min/maxer, askes if he can have his troll drake adept (from another gm's game i had no part in this) go through some highly unlikly, contrived and asinine process of time traveling to 2050.

My first response was utter revoltion at the entire idea. But i got to thinking, it might be fun to mess with him and teach him that the sixth world is not exactly a safe place for the unique. So i thought i'd share my ideas. Since he would be a metatype that has yet to awaken i figure that if any of the megas got wind it would soon become a 24/7 fight to maintain his freedom/life. Seems like the best way for a corp to find out is have a corp Johnson do a routine background check on the runners he's about to meet and when one of them comes up with no background he goes from half intereterest to REALlY interested. Possibly bringing a mage along or sending a mage to scope this guy's aura and set off the desired shitstorm. Thoughts?
Note to all you rich corp slugs out there: the Redmond Barrans is no place to take your brand new drek hot sports car out for a spin.
Belial's Bio: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=79.msg7814#msg7814
Aliases: http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/mstnames.html

Reaver

  • *
  • Prime Runner
  • *****
  • Posts: 6424
  • 60% alcohol 40% asshole...
« Reply #1 on: <10-05-12/1421:00> »
...

Well, if you want to be a total ass, you could allow him to play the character (I wouldn't due to a host of reasons).
Then lock him into his troll form ONLY! The reason drakes came back to the forefront was the mana surge created by the passing of halley's comet. Without that mana boost in the environment... His drake side regresses. (that's about as asinine and contrived response as his idea that breaks the fundamental "laws" of SR magic [no teleportation, time travel, etc])

I would go over the character with a fine tooth comb. I highly doubt he paid 105BP for his troll/drake combo (maybe 45 for latent drake/troll... In which case it is up to you as to IF and WHEN he metamorphs into a drake.... Again a way to screw over his contrived and asinine little plan)
Where am I going? And why am I in a hand basket ???

Remember: You can't fix Stupid. But you can beat on it with a 2x4 until it smartens up! Or dies.

cyclonus743

  • *
  • Newb
  • *
  • Posts: 92
  • Is this whats left of the mighty Decepticons
« Reply #2 on: <10-05-12/1442:53> »
I almost want to allow him to do it at full power because i warned him about how megacorps would react and he was dismissive that they could find him. I almost feel honor bound to have yamatetsu or aztecnology hunt him down and dissect his ass.  Didn't even take the mana factor into account
Note to all you rich corp slugs out there: the Redmond Barrans is no place to take your brand new drek hot sports car out for a spin.
Belial's Bio: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=79.msg7814#msg7814
Aliases: http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/mstnames.html

Ethan

  • *
  • Omae
  • ***
  • Posts: 403
« Reply #3 on: <10-05-12/1606:26> »
Well he wouldn't be a Drake at all, so would he regress to a Latent Drake?

What are his negative qualities? Actually, can you post this guy's sheet? I'm curious as to how he managed to min-max a Drake of all things.

Ympulse

  • *
  • Omae
  • ***
  • Posts: 355
« Reply #4 on: <10-05-12/1641:21> »
I'm sure the greats would be VERY interested in why a full-powered Drake is around this early in the cycle.

Zilfer

  • *
  • Ace Runner
  • ****
  • Posts: 1326
« Reply #5 on: <10-05-12/1654:24> »
>.> time travel.... why do i get the funny feeling Harley might be involved....? Prank sending someone back into the past he didn't like? Hell if not i'm aure Harley might be curious if he got wind of it. xD
Having access to Ares Technology isn't so bad, being in a room that's connected to the 'trix with holographic display throughout the whole room isn't bad either. Food, drinks whenever you want it. Over all not bad, but being unable to leave and with a Female Dragon? No Thanks! ~The Captive Man

ArkangelWinter

  • *
  • Omae
  • ***
  • Posts: 813
  • A thing need not exist to be real
« Reply #6 on: <10-05-12/2151:19> »
>.> time travel.... why do i get the funny feeling Harley might be involved....? Prank sending someone back into the past he didn't like? Hell if not i'm aure Harley might be curious if he got wind of it. xD

One of the big rules of magic is that no one can time travel, not even guys like Harley or the Horrors. If time travel is possible, it would have to be technological.

Glyph

  • *
  • Ace Runner
  • ****
  • Posts: 1661
« Reply #7 on: <10-05-12/2324:25> »
I would recommend that you not allow it.  It seems that the only reason you are considering it is because you are contemplating ways you could mess with his character.  GM vs. player is always a bad idea (unless you are playing Paranoia).  The GM can always win, because he is the final arbiter of the rules and has an entire world to throw at the player.  But that's just being a passive-aggressive bully, and it won't end well.

lurkeroutthere

  • *
  • Omae
  • ***
  • Posts: 483
« Reply #8 on: <10-06-12/1313:01> »
I almost want to allow him to do it at full power because i warned him about how megacorps would react and he was dismissive that they could find him. I almost feel honor bound to have yamatetsu or aztecnology hunt him down and dissect his ass.  Didn't even take the mana factor into account

Honestly just don't do this. The way to fix a problem player/character isn't to give them more attention. That just is unfair to them, and more importantly unfair to the other people showing up to the game. Having the guy who's already the cheesemonger start play with a more powerful character who's also a special snow flake is a good way to loose players in very short order. Plus it starts things in an antagonistic mode right from jump. Bite the bullett, tell him no, and press on with life. Let everyone start new fresh characters and do whatever it is yoru going to do.

That doesn't even begin to get into all the impossibilities difficulties with time travel, early drakes, and other issues.

Long story short: If you do this you will regret later, it won't enhance anyone's fun except for about a session and potentially yours for a seassion and I guarantee you would come to regret the decision just like GM before you, including myself. Who has allowed something at chargen they knew was a Bad Idea(TM).
"And if the options are "talk to him like a grown up" versus "LOLOLOL murder him in his face until he doesn't come back," I know which suggestion I'm making." - Critias

No team I'm on has ever had a problem with group think.

Kot

  • *
  • Ace Runner
  • ****
  • Posts: 1675
  • Meaow
« Reply #9 on: <10-08-12/1047:03> »
No troll Drakes. There weren't any non elf-or-human Drakes in the Age of Legends*, so I'd say the Drake 'genes' cannot express themselves in a troll, ork, dwarf or other metatybe beyond plain humans and elves.

And remember, It's your game. You can say 'no'. The GM has veto rights.


* Drakes were from the same "stock", as Immortal Elves in a way, though they weren't bred like IE's, but created by their masters (Great Dragons) with Life Magic. I doubt their breeding was intended. Maybe they're all descendants of Denairastas? That would be a nice shocker to the GD's and IE's. :P
Mariusz "Kot" Butrykowski
"Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and good with ketchup."

cyclonus743

  • *
  • Newb
  • *
  • Posts: 92
  • Is this whats left of the mighty Decepticons
« Reply #10 on: <10-16-12/1055:12> »
I decided to veto the hell out of that. I decided to take Glyph's advice. I think the player and I have come to a happy understanding.
Note to all you rich corp slugs out there: the Redmond Barrans is no place to take your brand new drek hot sports car out for a spin.
Belial's Bio: http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=79.msg7814#msg7814
Aliases: http://incompetech.com/gallimaufry/mstnames.html