[Backgammon]

Great White Shadows
Bikers and go-gangs roam the streets of Montreal in 2074. Organized crime outfits struggle for territory. And neo-anarchists add spice and danger to the streets. All this would seem to be nothing more than lawless chaos except for one thing—money. Cheap real estate and savvy moves by the megacorporations have brought some cash into town, and a new city is being built on the remains of the old. And as every runner knows, when you shine the light of money onto the darkness of a ruined city, you get one thing: shadows

Montreal 2074 gives adventurous runners the chance to take their talents to a new locale, doing business on the isle of Montreal. Whether they are dodging the gangs of the West Island or looking to bargain with the Mafiosi of Saint Leonard, runners will find plenty of opportunities in Montreal. They just need to make sure they don’t end up as part of the piles of rubble—and they also need to watch out for the fast, brutal group known as Les Frères Chasseurs.

Montreal 2074 contains information on neighborhoods, gangs, and activities that bring the city to life in the Sixth World setting. With plot hooks and NPC stats, the book provides everything players and gamemasters need to take a trip to the Great White North.

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[CanRay]

Yeah, but when is the French Language version coming out? 

[Justice]

Or the last Mission so I can nab them at the same time?

[Frankie the Fomori]

Got to say I am totally impressed with this product. First it gives more lore on the fallen seraphim. Next it brings Montreal to life! I live in Seattle and our group enjoy's the local familiarity we have in SR. Now though I want to start a game in Montreal.

It has the perfect feel for some awesome stories and plots. Do I want to start a campaign about street level war between the biker gangs, immerse the party in a Neo anarchist plot to fight off the incoming Corps, have them interact with the native population of northern Quebec, help the mafia regain the lost grôund they suffered almost 50+ years ago from the Hellsouls, or cast a dark shadow over the group and pull them into "horror" influenced (that is what it sounds like to me) North Montreal?

In the end I think I will do all the above.... And there are still plot points sitting unused in this wonderful little book:) thank you Olivier Gagnon for cramming the perfect amount of lore in such a small space cheers and happy fraggin X-mas!

[Shadowjack]

Montreal is a very beautiful and fun place to visit. I've often considered moving there. So I will probably wind up getting this book and the little writeup about it has my interest

[AJCarrington]

Have lived there...very much looking forward to picking this up

[Backgammon]

Wow, thanks for the great feedback guys! Montreal 2074 is currently sitting in the #2 Best Selling spot of DriveThru, thank you all for making this book a success

[Lysanderz]

Alright, time for me to be the sour grape.

I was unhappy the second I opened my Montreal PDF. 21 pages is a tad paltry for me. When I read [City] 2074.... I was thinking a book on par with Seattle 2072 (A book which remains my favorite). I was expecting pages upon pages upon pages.... I got 21. Now don't think I hate the content, just wishing I had more. Lots more.

[Critias]

Alright, time for me to be the sour grape.

I was unhappy the second I opened my Montreal PDF. 21 pages is a tad paltry for me. When I read [City] 2074.... I was thinking a book on par with Seattle 2072 (A book which remains my favorite). I was expecting pages upon pages upon pages.... I got 21. Now don't think I hate the content, just wishing I had more. Lots more.

I don't mean to belittle your concern -- please don't get me wrong, here -- but this sort of complaint has always kind of mystified me...not because I think it's totally unwarranted to want larger products or something, but because it says right there how big the book is.  Right there on the margin over at DrivethruRPG, for instance, it tells you right there that the thing is 21 pages long.

Is it that folks are just so excited about a new book they don't check that, or what?  I'm not trying to be snarky, just really curious about this type of thing, ever since I saw some similar comments about WotA.

[Black]

It must be one of the top ten rules of customer service.  Never expect that customer to 'read' anything.  And that's not a jab at anyone, its just the nature of sales and customer service.  Even if you make every effort to draw attention to something prior to purchase, you will have customers who will buy the product without checking the info first.  Its actually, in its own way, a form of compliement.  The customer wanted the product so much, they didn't stop to read the product info first.  I certainly do that.  Bang, new shadowrun product, straight in the cart.  I'm not checking authors, page count, file size etc until... perhaps... after I begin reading the product.

But it could be other things.  DrivethruRPG has the product info in a column on the left of the product summary.  Its visually seperate from the product, enough so anyway that its easy to ignore.  So perhaps the information is not presented well, from an Accessability stand-point.

So it could be a combination of things...

[Smiley]

Still haven't got the time to read it but as soon as I do, comments will follow. I'm sure glad to have some information on the city I currently resides IRL. Well any info on Quebec is welcomed.

[Crunch]

It must be one of the top ten rules of customer service.  Never expect that customer to 'read' anything.  And that's not a jab at anyone, its just the nature of sales and customer service.  Even if you make every effort to draw attention to something prior to purchase, you will have customers who will buy the product without checking the info first.  Its actually, in its own way, a form of compliement.  The customer wanted the product so much, they didn't stop to read the product info first.  I certainly do that.  Bang, new shadowrun product, straight in the cart.  I'm not checking authors, page count, file size etc until... perhaps... after I begin reading the product.

But it could be other things.  DrivethruRPG has the product info in a column on the left of the product summary.  Its visually seperate from the product, enough so anyway that its easy to ignore.  So perhaps the information is not presented well, from an Accessability stand-point.

So it could be a combination of things...

I'll say that one of the ways they deal with this over on the Battletech side of Catalyst is by using different naming conventions for the PDF exclusive products. So for instance each faction gets a Field Manual (Biggish print book set in 3067) and a Field Report (20-30 pg PDF set in the early 3080s) likewise Technical Read Outs are always sizable print books and Experimental Technical Readouts are always much smaller PDFs. So when you see a new product you immediately know relative length and content type.

I have to confess that the reuse of names like State of The Art caught me a little off guard. When I first read the title I expected a book like the first SOA book for 3rd, not a brief compilation of random articles. Now I did my homework before purchasing, but I have to say it was a little strange. Likewise, as a new customer, I would expect Seattle 2072 and Montreal 2074 to be similar books.

[Shadowjack]

While I understand your gripe, Lysanderz... keep in mind this book only costs $6.99. If it was as thorough as Seattle 2072 you would have had to pay a lot more for it.

[Patrick Goodman]

Is it that folks are just so excited about a new book they don't check that, or what?  I'm not trying to be snarky, just really curious about this type of thing, ever since I saw some similar comments about WotA.

I got similar commentary about Another Rainy Night. Battleshop, to be fair, doesn't show page counts, where DTRPG does.

[Backgammon]

Yes, this is what seems to be coming  up a lot. The feedback about the book has been great, but a lot of people wanted more.. I'll pass the word on up about this problem and see what we can do.