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« on: <01-15-13/0505:34> »
Okay, so, supposedly in the plot of the Shadowrun Online game, one of the Big 10 is going to fall.  I've seen people speculating on which one, saying that it will be this one or that for this reason or that.  They seem to be ignoring the following:

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In the end, it will mean the downfall of one of the megas and it will be up to the players to decide which one it is.

It is not determined yet.  Now, it's possible (and perhaps likely) that it will be between two of them, but it's possible (though perhaps less likely) that all 10 will be up on the chopping block - and I've seen precious little speculation on possible reasons.  So, to start some off here:

Ares: They're messing around with bugs, this could bite them hard.

Aztechnology: Has earned the ire of dragons, and is caught in a war with Amazonia.  They might ust wind up spread too thing, or push something too far, and be destroyed for it.

Horizon:  Under attack from both technomancers and spirits.  Given that some new Dissonant threats (judging by the teasers) seem to be coming around for SR5, Resonant entities might be getting stronger too.  Alternatively, the spirits attacking Horizon might get themselves some allies.

Saeder-Krupp: The Dragon Civil War might just cost Lofwyr his empire.

That's what I've got for now, anyways.
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« Reply #1 on: <01-15-13/0601:18> »
Renraku.  They have been up o something for awhile now,  history says that when renraku is upto something, it always blows up in their faces.

Wuxinf will not fall. Too new, need their time to shine.
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« Reply #2 on: <01-15-13/0724:17> »
S-K won't fall. Lofwyr may be full of pride, but he will stop before total defeat, so he can strike again later.

Aztechnology may or may not fall depending on how things go with Ghostwalker and Sirrurg. But I'm not betting on them going away entirely. Just smacked around a bit.

Renraku is up to something, but when they're up to something it usually takes decades for it to finally blow up in their faces. No, they'll likely be ok.

Wuxing, Evo, Shiawase, Mitsuhama, and NeoNET all have internal issues, but nothing critical at the moment. They aren't going away.

No, the only possible choices are Horizon and Ares.

Horizon has bet a lot of their reputation on the Az-Am war, and has been dirty dealing with technomancers, AIs, and free spirits, causing those groups to go into a guerrilla war against them. As the newest of the AAAs, everyone else (from the other AAAs to all those hungry AAs) wants to knock them down a peg, since they're the low hanging fruit of the Corporate Court. Definite problems await them if the techno/AI faction manage to break into the Consensus, like it seems they're going to.

Ares. Oh Ares. The biggest mistake Knight ever made was in rushing the reorganization of Ares following the butchering of Cross. In trying to draw everything under his control, he allowed his rivals to take over significant chunks of his empire. And they intend to fight him every step of the way. Plus, he's under the delusion that bugs can be tamed, and can even be used as weapons. Between massive internal divisions, and the instant global reaction people will have with the headline that Ares is an insect hive, Ares is the one most likely to fall.
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« Reply #4 on: <01-18-13/1223:17> »
I know which one I'd pick, but, there's no predestinationon this one that I know of. I've been trying to figure out how each might be put into a position for nullification, should it come to it. Some of these are harder than others, obviously. :)

But as far as I know, nobody's safe on this one.

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« Reply #5 on: <01-23-13/1905:38> »
There're some post related to this topic in SRO forum. I link them. Check them out if you're curious:

http://www.shadowrun.com/forums/discussion/24381/which-megacorp-you-are-aiming-at-lets-paint-the-target-active-voting-welcomed#Item_34

http://www.shadowrun.com/forums/discussion/17242/which-mega-do-you-think-will-go-down/p1

Any chance that the shadowrun.com forum gets a general overhaul any time soon? The design is just off :\

I dunno... can't believe if SK is even open to discussion. Can't really see that and neither do I think Aztlan will be chosen to fall. Those two are just too iconic as far as I am concerned.

My bet is on either Renraku or Mitsuhama. Just a feeling :)

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« Reply #6 on: <01-23-13/1950:54> »
There're some post related to this topic in SRO forum. I link them. Check them out if you're curious:

http://www.shadowrun.com/forums/discussion/24381/which-megacorp-you-are-aiming-at-lets-paint-the-target-active-voting-welcomed#Item_34

http://www.shadowrun.com/forums/discussion/17242/which-mega-do-you-think-will-go-down/p1

Any chance that the shadowrun.com forum gets a general overhaul any time soon? The design is just off :\

I dunno... can't believe if SK is even open to discussion. Can't really see that and neither do I think Aztlan will be chosen to fall. Those two are just too iconic as far as I am concerned.

My bet is on either Renraku or Mitsuhama. Just a feeling :)

Dude, it's not a single predetermined corp.  Now, it might be between two, but it's kind of fun to speculate on causes and consequemces for all 10.
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« Reply #7 on: <01-23-13/2001:02> »
Dude, it's not a single predetermined corp.  Now, it might be between two, but it's kind of fun to speculate on causes and consequemces for all 10.

Yeah, dude, I'm aware of that as I happen to be from austria and I know some people from cliffhanger productions from playing SR3 together  ::)

Just throwing out my two cents you know...

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« Reply #8 on: <01-23-13/2029:33> »
Dude, it's not a single predetermined corp.  Now, it might be between two, but it's kind of fun to speculate on causes and consequemces for all 10.

Yeah, dude, I'm aware of that as I happen to be from austria and I know some people from cliffhanger productions from playing SR3 together  ::)

Just throwing out my two cents you know...

Fair enough.  But you're sort of ruling out a couple of the ones that are in more precarious positions.  And, frankly, the impact of SK or Aztechnology falling could be incredible, metaplot wise.  I'm curious what you would expect to be the reason for Renraku or Mitsuhama to fall, though.
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« Reply #9 on: <01-23-13/2222:17> »
I'm doubtful that Saeder-Krupp is going to be collapsing - it hasn't been getting in enough peoples' way to compensate for their tendency to be ridiculously prepared (such as for the second Matrix crash). Horizon on the other hand has an excellent spin department but has been looking like they're laying their necks on the chopping block.

Ares is definitely in for some trouble, but I also doubt that they're going to lose AAA status. Renraku and Mitsuhama have had their chance to shine but also haven't been nearly as strained as others, so while I'd drop them down to shake up the whole corporate court, I doubt it's going to happen. As long as they go more into the other corporations - while I don't care drastically if Ares remains the big deal megacorp they are, I'd like to see more activity (and misadventures) revolving around the other corps. Maybe we'll find out who Sony is part of - or if they're been pulling strings all along. No, really, look at them, they're an evil megacorp now, no way are they not going to be an evil megacorp in the '70s.

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« Reply #10 on: <01-23-13/2225:52> »
I'm doubtful that Saeder-Krupp is going to be collapsing - it hasn't been getting in enough peoples' way to compensate for their tendency to be ridiculously prepared (such as for the second Matrix crash). Horizon on the other hand has an excellent spin department but has been looking like they're laying their necks on the chopping block.

Figure that if something happens to Saeder-Krupp, it will be because parties involved in the Dragon Civil War decided it was a good way to strike at Lofwyr.  Hidden Fictions show him as ramping up to go after Alamais, now, so things are going to blow up on that score.
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« Reply #11 on: <01-23-13/2229:58> »
I love it when people discuss these things like they're real and not subject to the agendas and whims of writers.

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« Reply #12 on: <01-23-13/2304:31> »
Dude! Don't ruin the suspension of disbelief!
Ares is still my hot bet. The bug inflitration gets so bad that the CC does what it needs to do, or the UCAS does, usingf its shedim special forces team. ARES is done, but perhaps its 'too big to fail' and a new corp rises from its ashes...

Or Horison falls, subject to a coordinated attack by the technomancers, triggering a global crack down on the techies, ushering a darker, more paraniod atmosphere on the streets...
Or renraku does whatever its doing in thge CAS and triggers a response...

Or...
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« Reply #13 on: <01-23-13/2316:37> »
I love it when people discuss these things like they're real and not subject to the agendas and whims of writers.

For purposes of putting the MMO together, I think (should it be manageable) that it would be better to have it be fully open-ended - drives player interest more, but more importantly it creates this huge sense of agency; if your actions will shape the game world in such an open-ended way, it really lends itself to that sense of impact.  I'd be curious to see how big the anti-Aztech contingent got, too.

Though, I can see where that would be less awesome from a writer's perspective.
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« Reply #14 on: <01-24-13/1022:07> »
I love it when people discuss these things like they're real and not subject to the agendas and whims of writers.

This. Just don't tell r-hat.
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