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« Reply #15 on: <01-27-13/1430:42> »
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« Reply #16 on: <01-27-13/1433:17> »
And stuff like that is part of the problem these days. Everyone thinks they're qualified to be a critic on something, be it books, movies or whatever... Annoys the **** out of me...

I mean come on, the point of watching a movie is for entertainment, not for sitting there and picking it apart.
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« Reply #17 on: <01-27-13/1454:33> »
I mean come on, the point of watching a movie is for entertainment, not for sitting there and picking it apart.
That's often where we find entertainment value. And, for what it's worth, I am qualified to be a film critic ... and so are you. We watch movies, and that's all the qualification that's required.
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« Reply #18 on: <01-27-13/1504:20> »
I mean come on, the point of watching a movie is for entertainment, not for sitting there and picking it apart.
That's often where we find entertainment value. And, for what it's worth, I am qualified to be a film critic ... and so are you. We watch movies, and that's all the qualification that's required.

All right, for the sake of argument, I'll accept that some can find that entertaining, but what's the point in blasting and flaming so hard trying to spoil the movie or book or whatever to try to make other people not give it a chance? (And yes, a lot of times that crud does happen. They'll even go so far as to call people who do like it stupid or any number of other insults.)
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« Reply #19 on: <01-27-13/1508:02> »
I mean come on, the point of watching a movie is for entertainment, not for sitting there and picking it apart.
That's often where we find entertainment value. And, for what it's worth, I am qualified to be a film critic ... and so are you. We watch movies, and that's all the qualification that's required.

All right, for the sake of argument, I'll accept that some can find that entertaining, but what's the point in blasting and flaming so hard trying to spoil the movie or book or whatever to try to make other people not give it a chance? (And yes, a lot of times that crud does happen. They'll even go so far as to call people who do like it stupid or any number of other insults.)
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« Reply #20 on: <01-27-13/1531:12> »
Welcome to the Internet, where nerds and geeks with skewed senses of priority will compare the prequel trilogy to the Holocaust and the Star Trek reboot to the Killing Fields.

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« Reply #21 on: <01-27-13/1622:34> »
And stuff like that is part of the problem these days. Everyone thinks they're qualified to be a critic on something, be it books, movies or whatever... Annoys the **** out of me...
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« Reply #22 on: <01-27-13/1930:36> »
i know its ST sacrilige, but i liked the reboot, Kirk doesnt seem as arrogant now, and Spock seems to realize earlier in his life that he DOES have emotions. That said, i'm kinda worried about Disney getting SW, but its just the general unease of something new and different.
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« Reply #23 on: <01-27-13/2100:06> »
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I shudder to think of Tarantino ... set loose on SW.
I'd pay to see a Tarantino production where the prime protagonist was Sith. Just not Lucas' concept of Sith.

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« Reply #24 on: <01-28-13/1210:55> »
I've been a Trekkie since I was five months old, and I fraggin' loved the 2009 film. It was hella fun. So it mgiht be sacrilege to some, but I wonder if they, in fact, watched the same show I did growing up.
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« Reply #25 on: <01-28-13/1221:42> »
It happens when people stop watching movies to have fun, but watch them to make sure the movies conform to their own misconceptions.

See : Any sci-fi sequel ever.

Even fantasy movies aren't safe. I thought The Hobbit was one of the most fun movies I've seen in years, yet people got pissy because it wasn't what they had imagined.
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« Reply #26 on: <01-28-13/1359:23> »
It happens when people stop watching movies to have fun, but watch them to make sure the movies conform to their own misconceptions.

See : Any sci-fi sequel ever.

Even fantasy movies aren't safe. I thought The Hobbit was one of the most fun movies I've seen in years, yet people got pissy because it wasn't what they had imagined.

true.  Take the 2009 Star Trek movie for instance.  I liked the movie as such, but I didn't like the fact that it didn't fit with the rest of the canon star trek as it was established before.  But it still wasn't a bad movie (as long as you consider it an alternate reality, and in Star Trek you actually can).
And if you don't like it, don't go watch it (a reason why I still haven't gone to see the Hobbit).
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« Reply #27 on: <01-28-13/1402:44> »
It happens when people stop watching movies to have fun, but watch them to make sure the movies conform to their own misconceptions.

See : Any sci-fi sequel ever.

Even fantasy movies aren't safe. I thought The Hobbit was one of the most fun movies I've seen in years, yet people got pissy because it wasn't what they had imagined.

true.  Take the 2009 Star Trek movie for instance.  I liked the movie as such, but I didn't like the fact that it didn't fit with the rest of the canon star trek as it was established before.  But it still wasn't a bad movie (as long as you consider it an alternate reality, and in Star Trek you actually can).
And if you don't like it, don't go watch it (a reason why I still haven't gone to see the Hobbit).

Considering that they had the old Spock coming back in time and such, I would imagine that it is a complete 'reboot' of the entire setting. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.
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« Reply #28 on: <01-28-13/1420:09> »
Take the 2009 Star Trek movie for instance.  I liked the movie as such, but I didn't like the fact that it didn't fit with the rest of the canon star trek as it was established before.  But it still wasn't a bad movie (as long as you consider it an alternate reality, and in Star Trek you actually can).
More than "you actually can" in this case. It's clearly established within the film itself that it's an alternate reality from the previously established canon. In the JJ-verse, things are clearly progressing quite differently, but it's easy to find the point of divergence.

And, like I said, it's clearly stated in the film that it's an alternate reality.

Considering that they had the old Spock coming back in time and such, I would imagine that it is a complete 'reboot' of the entire setting. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Yes and no. The original continuity goes on (the Star Trek Online MMORPG is set in the "original" universe, for instance, and most of the novel series still deals with the "original" coninuity). It rebooted the film series, yeah, but unlike, say, the Battlestar Galactica reboot, it didn't completely ignore, rewrite, and "reimagine" the setting. It just created a new playground next to it.

I'm going to shut up and go back to my little nerd corner now....
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I'm going to shut up and go back to my little nerd corner now...
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