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Shadowrun General => Gear => Topic started by: Checkmate on <10-19-15/2219:39>
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Ok, so I have 2.
1) Is Hand-Loaded intended to be stacked on top of other ammo types (I.E. Hand-Loaded APDS) or is it an ammo type unto itself?
2) How many clips does a reloading slide hold? It doesn't seem to list a number.
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Yeah it's in addition to whatever the ammo type is. So you could make flechettes give less of an armour bonus of make your hi-de holdout rounds punch harder
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2. Probably no clips, but one magazine. :P
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2. Probably no clips, but one magazine. :P
Lol ;D
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2. Probably no clips, but one magazine. :P
Tsk. According to the fluff even the gun catalogues call them clips. You're right though...
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2. Probably no clips, but one magazine. :P
Tsk. According to the fluff even the gun catalogues call them clips. You're right though...
Funny story behind that fluff (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39462&view=findpost&p=1251714)
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Meh I should know better. I know the actuall difference between clips and mags. I just got lazy.
For the record though I like the original version of his fluff... :P
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2. Probably no clips, but one magazine. :P
Tsk. According to the fluff even the gun catalogues call them clips. You're right though...
This board isn't in-setting ;) :P
You may just not have been around to remember the shitstorms this caused in past eds of writing on this board, not to mention this ed.
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Oh, stop knit picking. I already admitted you were right.What more do you want? :P
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box(magazine?) of cookies? 8)
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box(magazine?) of cookies? 8)
A cookie gun? Genius! ;D
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WHY am I imagining a cybered up girl scout gunzerking a pair of cookie guns?!
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WHY am I imagining a cybered up girl scout gunzerking a pair of cookie guns?!
It's Grrl Scouts actually. :P
And don't be short on the cred when they come around to collect for those cookies you signed up for when they first came around, least they "invite" you to a game of Monowire Double Dutch (http://forums.shadowruntabletop.com/index.php?topic=18784.msg333692#msg333692)
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Funny story behind that fluff (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39462&view=findpost&p=1251714)
Ha! I actually preferred the original blurb. Critias's reply two posts down to the elephant gun question was hilarious as well! ;D
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WHY am I imagining a cybered up girl scout gunzerking a pair of cookie guns?!
And now this feels appropriate...
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/42/2e/14/422e144fa5dc619a74c49647cb32fa06.jpg
Funny story behind that fluff (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39462&view=findpost&p=1251714)
Ha! I actually preferred the original blurb. Critias's reply two posts down to the elephant gun question was hilarious as well! ;D
Ah, things Mr. Welch is no longer allowed to do in an RPG.
2076. If I'm commissioned to build an artillery gun, they don't mean a gun that fires howitzers.
(The Full list if you're interested: http://theglen.livejournal.com/16735.html)
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WHY am I imagining a cybered up girl scout gunzerking a pair of cookie guns?!
Careful! Those Grrl scout really COULD be packing!!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/18/oreo-separator-machines-step-aside-slingshot-guy-takes-it-up-a-notch-creates-pump-gun-that-fires-cookies/
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Funny story behind that fluff (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39462&view=findpost&p=1251714)
In actual Modern English, clip actually means "a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm". Like, that is from an ACTUAL DICTIONARY.
The purpose of a dictionary is to document common usage, not to define "correct" or "proper" usage. Hence the ineffectual rage every year as incorrect (but common) usage terms get added. This is the devolution of language; words used to matter.
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Funny story behind that fluff (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39462&view=findpost&p=1251714)
In actual Modern English, clip actually means "a magazine from which ammunition is fed into the chamber of a firearm". Like, that is from an ACTUAL DICTIONARY.
The purpose of a dictionary is to document common usage, not to define "correct" or "proper" usage. Hence the ineffectual rage every year as incorrect (but common) usage terms get added. This is the devolution of language; words used to matter.
It is the evolution of language. Languages are meant to change over time.
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It is the evolution of language. Languages are meant to change over time.
+1
Words still do matter... Just in different ways. Besides, if language never changed it would quickly grow obsolete.
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dude you posted something from the Blaze ?!?!?! :p
WHY am I imagining a cybered up girl scout gunzerking a pair of cookie guns?!
Careful! Those Grrl scout really COULD be packing!!
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/03/18/oreo-separator-machines-step-aside-slingshot-guy-takes-it-up-a-notch-creates-pump-gun-that-fires-cookies/
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<- Gun Nut ;D
Buddy sent me the youtube video a LONG time ago and I remembered it when someone said "cookie gun"...
Quick internet search, and that was at the top of the list :P
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har i'm sorry Glenn Beck makes me break out into riotous laughter when i see him do his crying/ demagogue schtick.
Dude I noticed that photo of your arsenal @ home, eek!
Thank god you keep that stuff in a gun safe, it's simply insane how many people have their weapons lying around their house randomly.
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...it's simply insane how many people have their weapons lying around their house randomly.
The ones who do it randomly don't scare me, it's the ones who do it strategically.
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...it's simply insane how many people have their weapons lying around their house randomly.
The ones who do it randomly don't scare me, it's the ones who do it strategically.
Indeed (http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?s=&showtopic=39005&view=findpost&p=1238238)
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har i'm sorry Glenn Beck makes me break out into riotous laughter when i see him do his crying/ demagogue schtick.
Dude I noticed that photo of your arsenal @ home, eek!
Thank god you keep that stuff in a gun safe, it's simply insane how many people have their weapons lying around their house randomly.
To me, owning guns is a responsibilty. Not a right. If you are going to own sonething dangerous to the public, you take every precaution you can! The guns go in a safe. Every time. The ammo goes in a seperate safe in a seperate room.
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Eh, while it is a responsibility, locking a gun in a safe (with ammo not at hand) pretty much obviates home defense, unless you just intend to try and scare threats with an empty weapon?* Perfectly fine with sport and hunting weapons, not so much with defensive ones.
I have guns with ammunition in my home (not loaded), at 'strategic' positions in case something is wrong. That said, there's no children, they're not visible, and there's a reason they are where they are. If children come over, I move them to a safe or a room the children won't be in. I was raised and taught about guns by a trained firearms instructor since I was seven (I was told not to touch them beforehand). Treat-Never-Keep-Keep, the responsibilities implicit in owning a firearm, etc. I know a lot of children weren't raised like that, and parents have their own view on firearms, so I relocate them out of respect and safety.
Some people think having guns for defense is weird, or wrong, or paranoid. Given the circumstances of my life, it's common sense here.
*That's idiotic, by the way.
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Wow, I really feel for you guys. If armed house robberies are that common that you feel the need to arm yourself and enter in combat with them, your area must be seriously fucked up. Where do you live?! Benghazi??
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I think the guns would be redundant, all these Grrl Scouts would need to do, is send the target a box of poisoned Samoas and that would be that.
Edit: Save the Gun debate for Facebook, it's not relevant here.
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all these Grrl Scouts would need to do, is send the target a box of poisoned Samoas and that would be that.
Well according to my streetdoc, the Thin Mints are slow, sweet, sweet death without any need to add poison on top.
Eh, there are far worse ways to go. ;)
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all these Grrl Scouts would need to do, is send the target a box of poisoned Samoas and that would be that.
Well according to my streetdoc, the Thin Mints are slow, sweet, sweet death without any need to add poison on top.
Eh, there are far worse ways to go. ;)
Agreed!! Those mint thins are THE BEST!! The scouts in my area know I good for a half dozen boxes at a time.
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Well, it's not house robberies that're the problem.
And yeah, Thin Mints are the best Girl Scout cookie. Others I can do without, they'd get me with those.
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This is the worst case of threadjack I ever saw
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Hmm. Edible RFID chips, perhaps? Some type of gummy-chip that solidifies/self-heals and activates in digestive fluids...
Someone is conducting a trial to see how noticeable they are, and how long they will function, by slipping them into Grrrl Scout cookies. However, their monitoring stations are on the low end of data security, and the ping packets have been co-opted by other advertising systems. The net result of which is that anyone who has swallowed one will be beseiged by AR and trid ads in any commercial/retail environment (a bit of extra Noise, and perhaps a Sneaking penalty). A bug sniffer can detect them, but treat them as Stealth RFIDs for that purpose.
How long will they last? Who knows?
In the meantime, would you be interested in taking a brief survey for Stuffer Shack? On completion you will be given a unique code redeemable for free merchandise on your next visit...
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Hmm. Edible RFID chips, perhaps? Some type of gummy-chip that solidifies/self-heals and activates in digestive fluids...
Someone is conducting a trial to see how noticeable they are, and how long they will function, by slipping them into Grrrl Scout cookies. However, their monitoring stations are on the low end of data security, and the ping packets have been co-opted by other advertising systems. The net result of which is that anyone who has swallowed one will be beseiged by AR and trid ads in any commercial/retail environment (a bit of extra Noise, and perhaps a Sneaking penalty). A bug sniffer can detect them, but treat them as Stealth RFIDs for that purpose.
How long will they last? Who knows?
In the meantime, would you be interested in taking a brief survey for Stuffer Shack? On completion you will be given a unique code redeemable for free merchandise on your next visit...
Don't care.
MINT THINS!!!!!!!!
Worth it. Every. Time.
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Hmm. Edible RFID chips, perhaps? Some type of gummy-chip that solidifies/self-heals and activates in digestive fluids...
Someone is conducting a trial to see how noticeable they are, and how long they will function, by slipping them into Grrrl Scout cookies. However, their monitoring stations are on the low end of data security, and the ping packets have been co-opted by other advertising systems. The net result of which is that anyone who has swallowed one will be beseiged by AR and trid ads in any commercial/retail environment (a bit of extra Noise, and perhaps a Sneaking penalty). A bug sniffer can detect them, but treat them as Stealth RFIDs for that purpose.
How long will they last? Who knows?
In the meantime, would you be interested in taking a brief survey for Stuffer Shack? On completion you will be given a unique code redeemable for free merchandise on your next visit...
sounds like it should be an april fools mission....
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omg, this would be like where in twitter people tweet about their meals, now they just have their food broadcast for them.
So like the posh exec would reveal he had real steak, much to the envy of those around him, while the so called vegan gets caught out by his buddies when they spot that StufferShack Big Stack in his belly.
Course a hacker could have some fun with Wrapper and twist it about.
Have the Troll broadcasting he has the remains of a dwarf arm in his belly and sit back and watch when the cops do a doubletake.
Sure they will eventually figure out he didn't really eat a dwarf, but probably not before the beatdown and forced purging. ;)
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while the so called vegan gets caught out by his buddies when they spot that StufferShack Big Stack in his belly.
To be fair, it is mostly soy.
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omg, this would be like where in twitter people tweet about their meals, now they just have their food broadcast for them.
That has amusing possibilities too.
But I was just imagining it as the knowbots in the advertizing nets realizing that such-and-such code broadcast on frequency X will generate a return ping on frequency Y from consumers who purchased Grrrl_Scout:Thin_Mintz, and then spamming them with AR and TriD product recommendations. "Pants feeling a little tight? Buy a Lunch Belt!" "Enjoy snacking at work? A food container disguised as a stylus holder may be the answer!" "Got NERPS? New economy-sized containers on sale just ahead."
And somehow this happens even when running silent. Now THAT is invasive advertising.
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WHY am I imagining a cybered up girl scout gunzerking a pair of cookie guns?!
...a Paranormal Cookie Monster hunter?. ;)
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Dragging this thread back on topic since we now have rules for hand loaded ammo, shouldn't it be possible to make hand-loaded alchemical apds rounds ? Since the rounds' cassing, instead of the actual bullet, is in contact with the riffling of the barrel it wouldn't destroy the lynchpin.
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Except the sabot might damage it (those are designed primarily to facilitate a smaller round in a larger barrel/chamber). Or the forces present damage them.
The books have gone out of their way to say 'no, you can't shoot magical bullets' in pretty much every occasion. I stick to that ruling, personally. Hell, the Excalibur project started as a 'let's shoot magical bullets' gun, and look what happened to it. That's what should happen when you try to make technology and magic stick together, just like what happens with cyberzombies and other 'manatech' applications.
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Dragging this thread back on topic since we now have rules for hand loaded ammo, shouldn't it be possible to make hand-loaded alchemical apds rounds ? Since the rounds' cassing, instead of the actual bullet, is in contact with the riffling of the barrel it wouldn't destroy the lynchpin.
The argument has gone back and forth over and over again to no useful result. Hardtargets re-hashed it most recently, and undid the damage done to it in SG. Bottom line, what you can get your GM to allow into play is what you can do, as far as RAW is concerned, you can make magic arrows, or any variant on magic thrown weapons you like, so long as you follow the alchemy rules.
Pay very close attention to what types of spells can take what types of triggers.
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Dragging this thread back on topic since we now have rules for hand loaded ammo, shouldn't it be possible to make hand-loaded alchemical apds rounds ? Since the rounds' cassing, instead of the actual bullet, is in contact with the riffling of the barrel it wouldn't destroy the lynchpin.
Injector Darts may be a better delivery mechanism. I guess you could still Hand Load for an extra -1AP.
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Yeah, that's what the dart rifle, dart pistol, bows and crossbows are for. Injection Bolts etc are perfect for delivering alchemical potions.