Shadowrun
Shadowrun General => General Discussion => Topic started by: Maded on <09-30-16/2113:14>
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So... what's new? Haven't noticed changes yet but not that far into it.
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This is what the post today in the site says: The new fourth printing of SR5 should be hitting stores now, and it’s about to be a free upgrade for PDF purchasers. What do you get in your upgrade? How about a comprehensive index of all the core books? Run & Gun, Run Faster, Street Grimoire, and so on. It’s in there!
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I don't know about any other changes, but one thing I was hoping for was that they would fix the bookmarks in the Gamemaster Advice section of the pdf. I use that section a lot and finding stuff is a real pain. It was correct in the very first pdf and got screwed up since they moved the "All the Angles" fiction after the first pdf printing.
Unfortunately, the bookmarks were not fixed in the copy I just downloaded from Drive-thru RPG and every bookmark in the section is still 5 pages off.
But I don't have that fancy new index either, so maybe my Drive-Thru library still has the old files. Somebody please tell me they have a good copy where some stuff got fixed... I would really like to feel good about this new printing.
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Got my original PDF from battlecorp, no updated links from there. 😩
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So two of the same copy of the book shows up in my archive. No index in either.
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I didn't say they didn't lie, someone on Reddit said no update too
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So two of the same copy of the book shows up in my archive. No index in either.
Similar issue 2 "updated" copies of the core book in my drive thru rpg library and I can't tell if one's newer than the other but I can't see an index of other books.
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No update here either.
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So two of the same copy of the book shows up in my archive. No index in either.
Similar issue 2 "updated" copies of the core book in my drive thru rpg library and I can't tell if one's newer than the other but I can see an index of other books.
You CAN see a master index? Sweet, what page? Does it just replace the old index?
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Sorry to get your hopes up that should have read can't I was thrown off by the index containing a reference "street grimoire, 68" that I noticed on skimming it.
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We got an update! ... (But not really.)
I just checked by Drive thru RPG library and I was excited to see that there was a change in my library on October 3rd. Odd that I did not get an email about it though... Also, now there is only one file, not two listed for the core rulebook and when I downloaded it, the filename comes up as "Shadowrun_Fifth_Edition_Core_Rulebook_(Master_Index_Edition)_(serial#).pdf" .... Getting very excited!!
Unfortunately, when I open it, the actual file is (at first glance) exactly the same as the one I already have. NO master index that I can find, exact same page count as the previous version and my beloved bookmarks are still jacked up in the Gamemaster Advice Section.
Boo.
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The index at the back (page 468-489) is significantly expanded and includes references to other books, including Chrome Flesh, Data Trails, Rigger 5.0, Run Faster, Run & Gun, and Street Grimoire.
Your overall page count for the document should be larger than it used to be.
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My old pdf had a file size of 45,527kb. The new pdf has a file size of 45,752kb. It has the updated index.
Character Archetypes are still incorrect. The new index is helpful though.
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Looks like the third time is a charm. The file in my DriveThruRPG library was updated again (dated Oct 5th at 16:50) and this time it has the updated index. Also, page 7 now says "Fourth Printing" which is excellent since I never saw any pdf that said anything but "First Printing" even when stuff got changed.
I do wonder how much (if anything) in the text itself got changed or fixed since the bookmarks in the GM section are still wrong and there are still other very old errors that persist. Regardless, I appreciate the master index and the efforts to improve the product.
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Finally got it two days ago. Master Index is sweet! Still has a lot of typos and errata though was hoping some of that would get ironed out. My favorite: Matrix Perception, pg. 235 - "The target's commode."
Wheee! Makes me want to never play a decker anywhere near a restroom!
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Ah yes catalyst's usual high standard of editing, this is part of why I'm not buying any more books from them. Although I know have the image of a smart toilet with matrix connections and AR for the potty training of young children.
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Ah yes catalyst's usual high standard of editing, this is part of why I'm not buying any more books from them. Although I know have the image of a smart toilet with matrix connections and AR for the potty training of young children.
IMHO, this now deserves an artists rendering of such a device. Possibly for a future adventure or book.
Heck I might even put it in an adventure I create now.
MDC
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Ah yes catalyst's usual high standard of editing, this is part of why I'm not buying any more books from them. Although I know have the image of a smart toilet with matrix connections and AR for the potty training of young children.
As far as the "high standards" jab, I really can't agree with you. I've seen worse editing by metric crap ton loads from larger gaming companies who have raked in more cash and had more full-time staff than CGL. WotC, in their 3.x/4e days. White Wolf in their OWoD days. Edit to add: WotC isn't really that much better with editing now than they were then. They have fewer, prettier books though.
The commode thing just makes me laugh. Your/you're and their/there and could have/could of don't seem to come up as much as some books I've read through lately and that leaves me much less holding my breath and turning green than I might otherwise be, and I'm at least grateful for that much.
What I will agree with is production of errata to fix those errors that come up is rather lacking
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Btw, I've been toying with putting together Matrix cards with Magic Set Editor. And I want to make a "Knows Your Commode" card sooo badly. I'll share if I ever finish that project.
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Ah yes catalyst's usual high standard of editing, this is part of why I'm not buying any more books from them. Although I know have the image of a smart toilet with matrix connections and AR for the potty training of young children.
As far as the "high standards" jab, I really can't agree with you. I've seen worse editing by metric crap ton loads from larger gaming companies who have raked in more cash and had more full-time staff than CGL. WotC, in their 3.x/4e days. White Wolf in their OWoD days. Edit to add: WotC isn't really that much better with editing now than they were then. They have fewer, prettier books though.
The commode thing just makes me laugh. Your/you're and their/there and could have/could of don't seem to come up as much as some books I've read through lately and that leaves me much less holding my breath and turning green than I might otherwise be, and I'm at least grateful for that much.
What I will agree with is production of errata to fix those errors that come up is rather lacking
Actually the spelling errors don't bother me although I can see them possibly being a problem for people with english as a second language. What I was referring to was more the fact that they have a lot of occasions where the books reference things that were cut or might be included in a future expansion such as the mention of rituals in the street grimoire that are supposed to be on later pages but aren't or (according to the reveiws I've seen) in howling shadows modifers to a base pets costs table that was cut. Whatever the reason if you remove that base table you shouldn't leave in things that refer to it . Especially in a rules heavy game like this that's not a good thing for someone who is new to it.