[Sichr]

@ Sichr: I have it now, and now I have a couple questions.
1) A Cranial Bomb is normally a very serious threat forced on the PC, is it something he put in himself? Forced into him by the doctor? Something from an unknown source that he hasn't discovered yet?

2) Although you can stack most of these armors, but that would result in a lot of encumbrance.
 
3) You have a large spread of skills, but the only skills that you have much focus in is Influence. It fits with the character concept, but most characters specialize in two or three things. Was this your intention?

1) As described in background story. HMHVV infection so far isnt affecting Andreas, as he is Dwarf (carrierr: Loup Garou strain - affects human) But the nature of HMHVV makes it really unpredictable and possible to mutate. If  Steam`s body began to show signs of developing HMHVV infection, implanted biomonitor sends the signal and...plop

2) I really dont intend to wear all those armors together. Really. I just want a few different sets of clotching. Nobody I know has only one set of clotching in the dresser. IMO it is not standard even in 6th world

3) Datasearch, Perception, Social skills, as my primary role is Legwork and Informations gaining for the rest of the team. Mostly support role, I know, but I dont mind.
Also...when you add cyberlimb bonus to my standard attribute (IDN why Enhanced attribute isn`t added authomaticaly), I have decent pool for Pistols (14 with smartgun) and Melee(13)

[mtfeeney = Baron]

Chummer doesn't automatically set skills to use cyberlimb attributes.  You have 13 dice for your cyber spur, 14 with the pistol, 13 perception, 8(10) tracking, 10s in the social skills except intimidation, 7 Data Search.  You're decent with the spur and pistol, your perception is nice...  but your social skills aren't great, and 7 data search is awful for something that's your specialty.

[Sichr]

I see what I missed...Datasearch
Must have been downgraded when I decided to use remaining karma for Electronic group. Original version is Datasearch skill 4 (which means Dataseach 4 + Browse 5+ Analytic mind 2 + 1 for Agent participating on task)
Seems like I would have to do this again wanting or not.
And trust me, having Influence group at 4 is enought to get some info on the street. Im not the face designed to negotiate with high profile Johnson. Using Empathy soft I go to 13 dices. Even without it, I really dont think that dicepool 10 is low. I havent seen your character, and Im not interrested in that, but I guess you would consider usefull dicepool to be somewhere close to 16 ? at least?

[mtfeeney = Baron]

10 isn't bad, I just said it isn't great.  Our snake mage has 14s.  As for useful?  Maybe in the 9-12 range.  If you can average 3-4 hits or more, you've got a decent chance of succeeding at whatever.  A 16 is way beyond just useful... it's in the "hard to get this high" range, actually.

[Sichr]

I agree on this. Maybe Ill improve this in the future using karma, well for beginning I feel satisfied with this.
Pah. I hate to do all the customizing on drones again.Ill try to ask on Dumpshock if there is a way to undo "Mark character as created"

[Sichr]

Found it, I hope. In Saves directory, there is Backup of create mode .chum files

[Mirikon]

Which makes empathy software even more broken, you do realize that? The exercise was in cost comparisons for near similar benefit. It'd be only 16 karma to add in the commlink, restricted gear, and money for the software, link, and peripherals, to add it on to the adept build.

Why bring it up anyway, you're not going to change how you see it, it's just wasted thread space.

Just because it provides a bonus does not mean it is broken. I've yet to see anyone provide an example of how it was any more 'broken' than something that provided a flat +2 to all your attack rolls with a weapon for 2/5 karma. Afterall, that's what an external smartlink and glasses with image link and smartlink comes to. Compared to the karma to get Improved Ability 2 in that weapon skill, surely that's broken, by your own math? We can go on and on with similar examples, if you wish, but I think you're confusing "Broken" with "Good". There are pieces of gear that are just plain good, better than other gear on that level. The Barrett 121 stands above all other sniper rifles. The Lined Coat is pretty clearly one of the best pieces of armor for low-mid Body characters. The Yamaha Sakura Fubuki is the best light pistol in the game. And so on. Just because there is gear that is better than other things, to the point that some people consider the gear essentials, that does not mean that gear is broken. For characters with low-mid CHA, and a basic 'link (3s across the board), Empathy software 3 is like much needed armor against social skills, because social skills are only defended against by social skills. For the face types, Empathy software adds a few more dice to an already large dice pool. Big deal. To a non-face, the software can literally double their dice pool, giving them at least a chance (especially with Edge) of defending against social skill attacks.

These are the facts as they stand. Now, if you want to discuss different ways that social skills could be resisted besides being based off the same skill, that's certainly a discussion that would be good to have, though elsewhere.

[Sichr]

Repaired version...I had to do some minor changes to spend the karma (like buying edit Finished character...but not marked yet, this version is unavailable on Omae

[Mithlas]

not sure how to work all that into chummer and are you using martial arts qualities do not count toward you total quality house rule?

Martial arts are allowed but still cost karma. Go with the checkboxes for 'free knowledge' and 'charisma bonus' and that should allow chummer to get everything that we're still using. I expect the proposals in waiting to want to stay, so if you want to join this game you might want to post a character soon. I may close at 5 characters because it looks like we've got all of the party roles covered.

2) I just want a few different sets of clothing. Nobody I know has only one set of clothing in the dresser. IMO it is not standard even in 6th world

Just for a spot of humour, some people do it today:


@ Sichr: Okay, it looks like your character has a good spread of skills. Mtfeeney's already said that many people try to get 12-14 dice for skills they want to be very good at, but 10 is not bad (it just won't have a statistical average over 2 hits) and can be improved through karma. Once we get started, I'll allow skills and skill groups to be transitive (I see no reason not to allow them to be broken and reformed as seems to fit the character progression).

However, I don't have any information on your contacts - things like "human male fixer, to be named later" is something I can work with because I know what they do. Contacts with only a name (Hun Skaar, Archangelsk, Ramirez, noIC) lack any notes or information on what they do or who they know.

@ mtfeeney: Having 1s as attributes is something that can make it tougher on your character, but it ties in well with the backstory, so if you're okay with the weaknesses of having those low attributes, Pakka looks good to go.

@ Aryeonos: I understand the points you're making about Empathy Software, but I believe that everybody's supporting it in a proper manner with the necessary hardware and has moderate-level social skills rather than just going "Imma decker! I uze programz!" I wanted it brought up in the thread to see if others might have had any other feelings on it, but the consensus is clear that nobody else has a problem with it and I don't have any intrinsic problems with it.

Empathy Software stays. It's something that's at the disposal of PCs and NPCs, but there it is, just like any other gear, skill, or tactic.

Confirmed Characters
All4BigGuns: Sidhe - SURGE'd elf B&E and close combat
Aryeonos: Nidhogg - Naga psionic magician, face
mtfeeney: Pakka - ork magician with a group contact doubling as a magic/initiation support group

Characters in waiting:
Mirikon: Chikage - AI android street sam. I've looked through the page on the Tactical, and I've decided that it is a 12F, so it would cause problems if you were caught with it, but despite being a 100(c) high velocity gun that it's a valid choice, though it would cause problems if you were caught with it.
Sichr: Andreas Boil - dwarf private investigator

[Sichr]

However, I don't have any information on your contacts - things like "human male fixer, to be named later" is something I can work with because I know what they do. Contacts with only a name (Hun Skaar, Archangelsk, Ramirez, noIC) lack any notes or information on what they do or who they know.

On it.

[RHat]

Huh.  My revision seems to have vanished.  Will repost when I get home

[All4BigGuns]

With the new clarification on Empathy Software, I felt a final tweak. Pretty much just added that and Lie Detection Software, and switched Con specialty from Fast-Talk to Seduction.

Hopefully it does start soon, or else I'll probably end up thinking of more changes :/

[Mirikon]

Mirikon: Chikage - AI android street sam. I've looked through the page on the Tactical, and I've decided that it is a 12F, so it would cause problems if you were caught with it, but despite being a 100(c) high velocity gun that it's a valid choice, though it would cause problems if you were caught with it.

Well, if I got caught with most of my gear, it would cause problems. At any rate, sheet edited. The Tactical is still my primary, and I switched the Sig for a different battle riifle to use as my 'sniping' option. (Yes, it isn't an actual sniper rifle, but it uses sport rifle ranges, which is plenty for a sprawl, and I can actually use it in non-sniping situations.) Took out the Praetorian, and added in a machine pistol and a revolver.

[Aryeonos]

originally my character had a 5 in spell casting and 5 in con with Seduction, but I couldn't pull off the karma cost for everything or something, so had to rebalance.

[Scawire]

I'd like to join a play by post game if there is still room I love to join in on the fun let me know then I'll give you a look at the character I'd like to play. IF there is still room for me

IF I do get to join I was thinking a Pixie Hacker/Mage. One thing I haven't played alot of hackers so I might sometimes need a bit of help with it, from time to time. I do know the basics about it.