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« Reply #90 on: <08-13-13/1052:25> »
@Jen: Matrix/Astral recon makes sense. I'm down once we find a safe place to try it from.

@ Scarecrow: About how much time has elapsed in game? Has it been an hour yet? If so, I'd like to send a message to my Fixer and Johnson contacts letting them know that I'll throw in some creds if the info is worthwhile and expedited.
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Serafina

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« Reply #91 on: <08-13-13/1114:08> »
Well, Jennifer is actually not all that good at astral recon. Sure, Assensing 4, but no Astral Combat Ability to speak off and no mana-combat spells either, so other than looking she can't do much - so she'll propably join in on the matrix-action.

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« Reply #92 on: <08-13-13/1706:36> »
I'm saying we park a couple blocks down the street, not obviously right across the street. 

Matrix recon- just go into the host, should be possible to do legitimately without breaking in.  Just see what's there.

Astral- just project in and see what's there.  I can't imagine a future McDonald's having astral security. 

Let's not overthink this.  Just take a quick look, then we make a plan and go in.  Also do we have any idea what Vic looks like?

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« Reply #93 on: <08-13-13/1710:10> »
I've got a bike, so I'm thinking of parking at any local cafe/bar and hacking in that way. I'm still waiting on my contacts to see if they have any pics of Vic. If they don't have any info, I'll try for a matrix search.
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« Reply #94 on: <08-13-13/2339:09> »
Sorry about the absence today guys.  I woke up very sick this morning, and I've had a monster headache all day.  I'm about to take a couple of night-time aspirins, which should put me in la-la land until tomorrow morning.

Assuming I feel better tomorrow, I'll answer all questions and push this forward to the restaurant.  Or at least close to it, so you guys can do your recon before storming the joint.
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« Reply #95 on: <08-13-13/2347:50> »
I think our sneaky-type should do the scouting around the back while Serafina's character and Zen proceed to enter as though they were patrons and Wilde scouts the place astrally. I could provide back-up in case trouble breaks out.
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« Reply #96 on: <08-14-13/0132:34> »
I can do that.  Do they have to physically go in to do matrix recon?  I thought they could be nearby and suffer a minor noise penalty at worst, but I don't quite get the new matrix rules.

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« Reply #97 on: <08-14-13/0133:51> »
I can do that.  Do they have to physically go in to do matrix recon?  I thought they could be nearby and suffer a minor noise penalty at worst, but I don't quite get the new matrix rules.

I was just thinking that they'd be good for "eyes on the scene" for the main area while the stealther checked things out in back.
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Serafina

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« Reply #98 on: <08-14-13/0330:25> »
I'd rather not expose Jennifer like that, given that she's very bad at actual physical activities - i don't think the risk is worth the gain, especially when she can do other things.

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« Reply #99 on: <08-14-13/0348:59> »
Speaking of her, I could use one of those invisibility preparations before we go in. 

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« Reply #100 on: <08-14-13/0827:16> »
Sure, it only takes a few minutes to rig one up.

That being said - Scarecrow, what is your ruling on Contact-Preparations?
It's currently very unclear what exactly triggers them - the current rules only state "the next living being  to touch the preparation activates the spell". It should, at the very least, be possible to put the preparation in some sort of container, then take it out and activate it when one choses to - do you agree with that?

Also, to quote myself:
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IMO, Contact-Preparations should be changed to something like this:
You must choose part of the Lynchpin to be the trigger of the Preparation. This can be as small as a single carved rune or as big as the whole surface area. The Preparation is triggered when a living being touches that part of the Lynchpin with it's body - clothes or other protective items do not prevent activation, but using tools would since they are not part of a living aura.
That gives the same basic effect as preparations in containers, while being more stylistic and at the same time clearer then the current rules. What is your opinion on that?

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« Reply #101 on: <08-14-13/1138:18> »
Noise shouldn't be too bad downtown. Probably only about 1, maybe 2. I'm fine going in and doing on site recon while I try to hack any security they might have/armaments. I have my deck internal and only use my pulsar, so on the outside, I look like a boring wageslave, which shouldn't be that out of the ordinary for the area. I also can probably con anyone that thinks I look suspicious. I think what I'll do is try to get a mark or two on the host before going in to see what icons are visible and try to take care of anything nasty before entering, then if my overwatch score isn't high yet, I can just walk in and no one will be the wiser.
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Scarecrow71

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« Reply #102 on: <08-14-13/1204:18> »
Actually, the rules on preparations are pretty clear.  There are 3 types of triggers:

Command, which means the spell is triggered by you.  You have to be on the same plane AND have line of sight to the object.
Contact, which means the next living being to touch the object triggers the spell.
Timed, which means you set a specific amount of time and then the spell goes off, like a time bomb of sorts.

What you are asking for in your post is for the ability to set the trigger on an object, then carry that object around, and then set it off as you need to.  That's Command, it's covered pretty explicitly in the rules.  So, I have to decline your request on the Contact trigger as there is another trigger that already covers what you are asking for.

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I've put together the map we'll use for this encounter, and I've done so using Ditzie.  To be clear:  You do NOT have to download anything!  This is all online, and it's completely free, and you don't even need an account to use it.  I have one because I've got several folders of art out there that we can use for mapping, but even that was free and costs me nothing.

To state it again:  You need to download NOTHING, you need NO account, and you need to pay ZERO.  Are we good with that?  Cool.

To use Ditzie:  I'm responsible for putting the map together and adding/removing tokens.  You are responsible for moving your token around on the map to wherever you need it to be.  For the purposes of our initial encounter, each square in the grid is 2.5 x 2.5.  You each take up 5x5, or a total of 4 squares (2 left-to-right, 2 up-to-down).

To move, all you need to do is left-click and hold, then drag your token to where you want to be.  Once you've done that, hit the enter key.  The URL in the window will change; copy and paste that into the Map thread (which I will be creating here shortly), and voila!  The map is updated.  Remember to use only the very last map link.  Not doing so may cause errors, overwritten movement, and/or getting messages that you need an account, and that is not correct.  It's just Ditzie's way of telling you that you have clicked the wrong link.

I've placed you all on the map outside the restaurant to start.  This is not important other than to show you that you are on the map.  You are free to move yourselves wherever you need to be; once anyone goes inside I'll update the map with patrons and such (I mean, you can't see them from outside, can you?).

If there are questions, just let me know.

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Information from contacts:  Quiet night.  Too quiet.  It's almost like asking about the Fratelli's is taboo what with all the silence you're getting.  Or maybe it's just late and people are sleeping?
I could wile away the hours conversing with the flowers
Consulting with the rain
And my head I'd be scratching while my thoughts were busy hatching
If I only had a brain...

"Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun." - Ash, Army of Darkness

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« Reply #103 on: <08-14-13/1232:04> »
Yeah, but if you put the Preparation into a box or bag, it does become possible to carry it around - after all, you aren't touching it. What "touch" constitutes is pretty unclear, i really hope they bring out a proper FAQ/Errata soon.

The current ruling is that you CAN put a contact-preparation on a transportable object, but that damaging the lynchpin destroys the preparation - to rule out magic bullets, but since the post implies that throwing-knives are okay, carrying a preparation inside a container should be fine IMO.

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« Reply #104 on: <08-14-13/1241:28> »
Deck configuration: Firewall 5, Sleaze 6 (7), Data Processing (5), Attack (3)
Programs: Virtual Machine, Sneak, Fork, Wrapper, Signal Scrub

I use wrapper to disguise my programs as music and video files.

I'm assuming that I can see the icon for the McHugh's Host, but just in case, here's a roll:
matrix perception (9) : 3 hits, 3 ones.

Here's the hack on the fly, going for 1 mark on the McHugh's host
Hack on the fly (16): 9 hits, 1 one. Limited to 7 hits due to sleaze.
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