[Kontact]

1. what is the Response rating of the drone? I am lost - is it the response of my 'link (because it is what I use it to jump in) or is it drone's Pilot rating (eventually +/- Handling)?

  When jumped in, you use the response of the drone, which should be 3 for regular drones, 4 for security/restricted drones, like the doberman drones, or 5 for any military/forbidden drones (of which you have none.)  If you're using the Command program and remote actions, you use the response of your link.

Anyway, for the blimp, you'll have a response of 3 and an infiltration skill of 2.  However, the rules on vehicle sensors (from the vehicle combat section) say:

Since vehicle stealth
is limited by the driver’s ability, the dice applied for Infiltration skill
should not exceed the driver’s appropriate Vehicle skill.

So, that's 4 dice for stealth unless you're running hotsim, then it's 6 dice.  Hell, I'll even give you the control rig bonus for another +2.
That'd make it 6 or 8, cold or hot.

2. what rules are you using for Data Search?

The base book rules.  It's an extended test with info on 6, 12 and 24 hits.  Each test takes a minute to accomplish because you're searching the whole matrix.  You've got the electronics group at 3, which gives you a data search skill of 3.  You've also got a Rating 3 Browse program which is 3 more, and there's +2 dice for using hotsim, which I threw in, because, hey why not?  If I'm rolling for you, you don't have to worry about things like solar flares killing your satellite communication and giving your dumpshock.   So far I've given you the 6 hits info.  Just the basic public stuff.  We'll continue on a little and, if you want to keep searching, you'll get the 12 hits stuff. 

The way I do extended tests is a compromise between "auto success" of infinite extended rolls and the "you need 12 dice to do a basic thing" horsecrap of diminishing dice pools.  I say, you can roll as many times as you have dice, because, after a time, your resourcefulness will reach its limit and you'll run out of tricks.

3. @IC leaving the Doberman on guard, I should've known my body is being carried

I figure coming back to your body is always a slightly disorienting circumstance, even if you know where you're going to be. 


By the way, you've got about 10-15 minutes worth of actions built up with all the recon and data searching while the guys are conversing and planning.  I'm not too certain exactly when things are happening, but it doesn't really matter. 

[Sentinemodo]

1. what is the Response rating of the drone? I am lost - is it the response of my 'link (because it is what I use it to jump in) or is it drone's Pilot rating (eventually +/- Handling)?

  When jumped in, you use the response of the drone, which should be 3 for regular drones, 4 for security/restricted drones, like the doberman drones, or 5 for any military/forbidden drones (of which you have none.)  If you're using the Command program and remote actions, you use the response of your link.

Anyway, for the blimp, you'll have a response of 3 and an infiltration skill of 2.  However, the rules on vehicle sensors (from the vehicle combat section) say:

Since vehicle stealth
is limited by the driver’s ability, the dice applied for Infiltration skill
should not exceed the driver’s appropriate Vehicle skill.

So, that's 4 dice for stealth unless you're running hotsim, then it's 6 dice.  Hell, I'll even give you the control rig bonus for another +2.
That'd make it 6 or 8, cold or hot.

Where in the book's are those response ratings. I'd like to have them for reference in future games.
Could I jump-in to the rigged vehicle without control-rig?

I'm doing the stunt via full VR
8d6.hits(5)=2

And thanks for all those rules explanations - how long are you playing SR?

[Xzylvador]

Where in the book's are those response ratings. I'd like to have them for reference in future games.
Could I jump-in to the rigged vehicle without control-rig?

Device Rating Table SR4A p222, those are the default ratings for vehicles, drones, technology.

Without a control rig, you can jump in a vehicle. A rig provides a +2 to any Vehicle test (this includes Gunnery) because it's better at converting the machine and sensor data into something your own mind and body can understand.

[Sentinemodo]

Where in the book's are those response ratings. I'd like to have them for reference in future games.
Could I jump-in to the rigged vehicle without control-rig?

Device Rating Table SR4A p222, those are the default ratings for vehicles, drones, technology.

Without a control rig, you can jump in a vehicle. A rig provides a +2 to any Vehicle test (this includes Gunnery) because it's better at converting the machine and sensor data into something your own mind and body can understand.

Does it mean that device rating is equal to it's response?
Can I jump-in with an AR? I'd say no because then it is remote control. but if that the truth why add the +2 for the VR?
Is it the same as with technomancer, that makes all his matrix actions +2 due to permanent VR?

for me it's just dicepool increasing, that make the standard targets on rolls irrelevant for 400BP characters

[Xzylvador]

Check the Device Rating text next to the table... unless specifically mentioned or modified, all matrix attributes = Device Rating.

Jumping in I think is VR by definition; in AR you'd use Command/Remote Control I think.
VR gives a +2 to all actions while jumped in, Control Rig an extra +2... yeah, drones can be pretty good.
Thread with a lot of info about this.

Don't know squat about TM's... I suppose the +2 VR is for everyone... it the TM got Control Rig implanted I suppose it'd count too; will lose some essense and resonance for the implant though.

[Kontact]

Metagame: was reading in Feral Cities, read something and well... Being a mage in Chicago, near a hive, in a BC area... Would anyone happen to know where the rules are for Royal Jelly?

Almost forgot to respond to this.  Royal Jelly requires a queen to produce.  You don't ever want to deal with a queen.

Game: Since Devoted's standing in a BC2 area (reducing his magic to 2, so overcasting to 4) and the wasp is in a BC4 area (nullifying spells <= force 4)... I'm guessing there ain't much he can do?

Casting into a background count doesn't really matter as long as you're not sustaining the spell.  Instants like combat spells would work normally.

[Kontact]

Does it mean that device rating is equal to it's response?

Yeah, the standard rating for consumer goods like drones is Signal 3 (detailed on p 222) and Response 3.

Can I jump-in with an AR? I'd say no because then it is remote control. but if that the truth why add the +2 for the VR?
Is it the same as with technomancer, that makes all his matrix actions +2 due to permanent VR?

Jumping in is a VR only action.  The +2 is added for using hotsim.  Technomancers are considered to always be in hotsim.

The benefit of hotsim is +2 to all matrix-related actions, +1 to initiative, and a 3rd initiative pass.
The down-side is that biofeedback damage taken while operating in hot-sim is physical instead of stun.  Also, there is a chance of addiction like with BTLs.

So, if you're jumped-in to a drone and it takes an 8P hit, maybe it soaks that down to 6P,  you then have to resist half of that, 3P in hotsim or 3S in regular coldsim.  You would resist that damage with Biofeedback Filter and Willpower.  If you're not jumped in, you don't have to soak any damage, but you also don't get the +2 bonus for using your control rig.

Do remember though that CodeMonkey is a Thrill Seeker.  That's one of his negative qualities.  So, he's likely to always take whatever risks will bring the greatest reward.

[Xzylvador]

What firebug are you talking about?

[Crossbow]

The magish dude in the cocoon that Devoted assensed during the climb up, after we fought the Gargoyle.

If I could link to it I would, but I don't know how to do that stuff.  It is at the bottom of page 4, top of page 5 of the IC thread.

[Xzylvador]

's okay, I know the one you're talking about. I thought that was en echo of the past though, a powerful moment, both magical and emotional, so that it could still be seen/felt on the astral years after it had happened.
Could be wrong though.

Edit: found it, seems like Devoted thinks it was an echo of the past.

How to post links, here's the one I just did:

Code: [Select]

[url=http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=1488.msg20187#msg20187]found it[/url]

So just [url=   ] with the link between the brackets. Followed by the text you want as link itself ('found it'). Then end with [/url] after the text you want as link.

[Kontact]

Yeah, it was more like a shadow left behind like on the streets of Hiroshima after the bomb went off.  An imprint powerful enough to be seen without Psychometry.

Though Digger would have no idea what the difference was.

[Crossbow]

Though Digger would have no idea what the difference was.

Exactly, what I am doing is desperately trying to drag someone else into the conversation and go back to being the silent heavy

[Xzylvador]

Well, but Digger doesn't know about the spirit neither, Devo just said "This building was burnt by a magical fire.", unless you've got astral, you know nothing! :p

Codemonkey knows this guy here doesn't look like the Holland which can on the 'trix. (But is probably digging for more info...)

Devo still wants to burn Ruckus' body. I honnestly don't know Devo would say to Holland... Will try to come up with something.

[Kontact]

Ten, Mind, you're both on the bottom floor.  Feel free to start posting actions.

[Mindset]

Is it safe to assume Jack knows this "Thing" and what said "motorcycle" would be used for? What would you like me to roll to see if I do or dont, boss man?