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« Reply #135 on: <10-12-10/1146:47> »
Yeah like I've said over 30 years of I hit and either do 1d6 + str or for 21 years I hit with my gauss and you take 15 damage to your left torso! Trust me I know that Shadowrun ain't simple!


I beive that that comes with a condition that the target is on the devine side or just super tough/big.

I haven't been in a D&D book for about 4 years so I'm rusty on what creatures have DR like that. ;)

I still say they miss the mark on realism, but SR does get closer to it. ;) not to mention if I wanted MORE realism in my fantasy gaming I'd join the SCA! :D :D :D
Examples of hitting but not doing damage in Battletech: NARC beacons and Indirect Spotting. ;D
Nope. NARC does have a Damage round but the bNARC is a "touch" attack per se and Indirect spotting (TAG?) Is again a touch attack waiting for the big boom stick to drop! ;)


DR 15 at epic level is nothing FAst. I had characters that had +15 damage bonus due to str! They are also the creatures I let the Mages blast first! :o :P
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« Reply #136 on: <10-12-10/1153:31> »
Yeah like I've said over 30 years of I hit and either do 1d6 + str or for 21 years I hit with my gauss and you take 15 damage to your left torso! Trust me I know that Shadowrun ain't simple!


I beive that that comes with a condition that the target is on the devine side or just super tough/big.

I haven't been in a D&D book for about 4 years so I'm rusty on what creatures have DR like that. ;)

I still say they miss the mark on realism, but SR does get closer to it. ;) not to mention if I wanted MORE realism in my fantasy gaming I'd join the SCA! :D :D :D
Examples of hitting but not doing damage in Battletech: NARC beacons and Indirect Spotting. ;D
Nope. NARC does have a Damage round but the bNARC is a "touch" attack per se and Indirect spotting (TAG?) Is again a touch attack waiting for the big boom stick to drop! ;)


DR 15 at epic level is nothing FAst. I had characters that had +15 damage bonus due to str! They are also the creatures I let the Mages blast first! :o :P
Right after I posted that, I remembered NARC did like 1 point of damage or something. Of course, then I got a connection error so I couldn't edit it... ;)

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« Reply #137 on: <10-12-10/1157:22> »
The SCA isn't fantasy. It's history. But I take your meaning.  :D

You should join the SCA. It's alot of fun. We are more historically accurate than Ren Faires and have some rules you have to know, but it's alot of fun.

God, I want armor sooo bad. Heavy combat heavy combat heavy combat!!! I've been recovering from knee injury, but I'm starting to feel like I can practice and maybe fight again. Was throwing some pretty kicks yesterday, so I think my knee is strong enough. I injured it in a swordfight ironically.

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« Reply #138 on: <10-12-10/1202:11> »
I would but my body just isn't up to that kind of play anymore. ;D
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« Reply #139 on: <10-12-10/1431:39> »
I would but my body just isn't up to that kind of play anymore. ;D

That's just the fighting part. There's way way more to the SCA than fighting.

I've never fought in the SCA. I just want to. I fight in other organizations.


Anyways, armor! So, I'm wondering, does pretty much everybody here use Form Fitting Armor? It seems too broken to pass up.

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« Reply #140 on: <10-12-10/1448:30> »
I use form fitting for most of my characters. There's some I can't justify it on so I don't.
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« Reply #141 on: <10-12-10/1457:48> »
I gave it to Usda, but when Doom limited the damage defence dice pool to 20 I cut that and the PPP. Now I'm just 21 for that. However after discussing the mechanics he MIGHT let me build it back up. We'll see how it works out tomorrow. ;D
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« Reply #142 on: <10-12-10/1500:52> »
Same as Angel. Sure, it can be justified for everyone, but Hackers/Faces/Mages just may not *think* of it (unless a Sammy/Phys Adept points it out to them).

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« Reply #143 on: <10-12-10/1502:53> »
My poor, squishy Chaos Mage would LOVE to have some, if he could only afford it at this juncture.  It will be on the menu...along with the tons of other stuff that is also on the wait list for purchasing.  Foci, binding materials, additional spell formulae, higher-than-Low lifestyle...you know, the basics. :-\
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« Reply #144 on: <10-21-10/0438:37> »
I would but my body just isn't up to that kind of play anymore. ;D

That's just the fighting part. There's way way more to the SCA than fighting.



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« Reply #145 on: <10-21-10/0734:14> »
I would but my body just isn't up to that kind of play anymore. ;D

That's just the fighting part. There's way way more to the SCA than fighting.



Like drinking, and drinking, and did I mention drinking? 8)
So is there any drinking at the SCA? I'm an amature drinker with delusions of going pro! :o :P
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« Reply #146 on: <10-22-10/0642:41> »
I gave it to Usda, but when Doom limited the damage defence dice pool to 20 I cut that and the PPP. Now I'm just 21 for that. However after discussing the mechanics he MIGHT let me build it back up. We'll see how it works out tomorrow. ;D

What would be that "DOOM" you are talking about?
In my group, one of players is a troll with cyberarms and torso with + armor (lets say +5), Body of 11 and heavy milspec. it would be some 35 defence pool without edge (which, fortunately, he got only 1 because his character doesnt believe in luck and magic (+4 magic resistence)

So this is some news I didnt hear about... what rulebook pls?

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« Reply #147 on: <10-22-10/0820:23> »
Doom = The Doomed One = our current GM. He pops up on the forum here once in a blue moon.
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« Reply #148 on: <10-22-10/1811:42> »
Sun Tzu said something like "attack where you are strong and your enemy is weak". Mega-armor Man's strength is clearly in resisting physical damage. So trying to overpower that is probably a lost cause for your average security team. Trying to shoot him is like trying to argue with a Fixer or brute-force crash an AI (assuming they're both as efficient as armor guy). So OK, Mr. Troll is invulnerable to anything shy of high explosives or a Knight Errant team with miniguns and a Panther Canon. Don't try to shoot him!

Mr. Armor Man has to lug all that armor around and carry a gun, too. So his physical stats are probably pretty high. How's his Willpower? Any number of things target Willpower.
Don't have a combat mage and/or Adept with Commanding Voice? Knock him over. He's already encumbered. Put Mr. Armor on the ground and fire sticky stuff at him. Now the party can stay and free him or try to go on without him. Especially evil party members may just run away.
Don't have sticky stuff? How's his hand to hand combat? Aim for his gun then send in the Aikido master. All that armor is going to slow him down and the next thing you know, arm lock.

I especially like the last one because it has a real "cue dramatic music" feel to it. Arnold Schwarzenegger vs Steven Segal sort of thing. Any of the above work well if Knight Errant can come by for pickup. Once E-SWAT shows up, even Mr. Armor is going to lose. Since you probably don't want to hose Mr. Armor, just get some good dramatic tension out of it, the rest of the party can probably free him before KE shows up. The point is that the baddies may not be prepared but they're also not stupid. A smart security force will do better than a well equipped security force.

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« Reply #149 on: <10-23-10/1024:45> »
Shoot him with the microwave gun.  The one that ignores armor completely.

That pretty much makes "mega armor man" look like a big tool.
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