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« Reply #225 on: <10-03-11/1710:11> »
Oook? Eeek!! OOOK!

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« Reply #226 on: <10-03-11/1712:56> »
Especially *THAT* Librarian!
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« Reply #227 on: <10-03-11/1718:41> »
I'm kinda having my doubts...

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« Reply #228 on: <10-03-11/1746:09> »
Don't screw with Librarians, they control knowledge.

Think about it.  ;D

Honestly, a set of "How To" books written for the common person and an "Adult Literacy" book are probably the best things you can have stored away or bring out of your vault...

I always figured post apocolyptic librarians would be psychic and would fry peoples brains that weren't quiet in the library.
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« Reply #229 on: <10-03-11/1747:42> »
Depending on the Apocalypse.
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« Reply #230 on: <10-03-11/1827:21> »
Don't screw with Librarians, they control knowledge.

Think about it.  ;D

Honestly, a set of "How To" books written for the common person and an "Adult Literacy" book are probably the best things you can have stored away or bring out of your vault...
Control is... not the right word. Say rather that for librarians, the only secrets are those they choose not to find.

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« Reply #231 on: <10-03-11/1940:24> »
I recall a librarian trying to screw me over on overdue and replacement fees for a book when I was in my final year at university (they were, in not so many words, accusing me of stealing the book). They were employing the "you can't graduate with overdue fees" gambit. I knew I'd returned the book (because I was borrowing 6 books at a time, and photocopying what I needed, and returning them within the hour; repeat about 10 times), so a series of emails were to-and-froed, until the librarian in question thought that I was becoming hostile and rude (it's not like they were threatening to stop me from completing a degree or anything  ::) ), and insisted on a face-to-face interview (with her supervisor).

I arrived early, and decided to do some investigating of my own, and to see if I could produce some evidence to prove my innocence (and to wipe any smug bureaucratic looks off their faces, and get an apology - I figure for people like that, rubbing their noses in it might teach them a lesson). I knew the copy that I had borrowed was the only copy the library had, so I went in to the stacks, armed with the book number and supreme arrogance (and aided by some high caffeine intake), to see if I could find the thing. Of course, it wasn't where it should have been among the BD books. So, I took the logical step of looking in the DB books (figuring that it would be simple enough to transpose the two numbers), expecting it not to be there, and then having to go through the A-Z, but it was. Took me all of 5 minutes to enter the library, and find the book on the stacks that had been 2 weeks worth of email-fighting-and-graduation threatening.

So, I did what any inquisitive student would do as they next step. I went to see if I could borrow the book. I expected all sorts of bells and whistles to go off, or at least a confused library assistant, but, nope, it went like a normal transaction. I put the book in my bag (with the loan slip) and went to the meet with the librarian.

After brief introductions, and the librarian I had been dealing with giving me filthy looks as her superior did all the talking, I got a bit of a lecture from the supervisor about courtesy, and procedure and resolving issues, etc., which I sat and endured, smiling all the time (which made the librarian's body language even filthier), until it was my turn to speak. I explained my borrowing habits for the day, and made it clear that any fool could see that I was borrowing and returning books because I was using the staff room photocopier that I didn't have to pay for, rather than the library one, and that it seems odd that I would have kept one book, and continued to borrow and return others.

"Did anyone think to actually look for the book on the stacks, or did they just take the computer's word that the book was never returned?" I finally asked.

Of course, the librarian I had been dealing with retorted that they had, and that she resented being asked that in the emails, and now, and that she knew how to do her job, and...

... I cut her short by slamming the book on the table and saying:

"Because I found this in your stacks half an hour ago and borrowed it," presenting the loan slip. "Filed under DB, not DB. Took me 5 minutes to find."

She went scarlet - I honestly thought she was going to explode. Her supervisor looked like they wanted to facepalm. Sputtered excuses and explanations ensued, and half-apologies.

The book, by the way, was Anarchy, State, and Utopia.

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« Reply #232 on: <10-03-11/2011:53> »
Setting aside the attitude (which was a problem), I'll tell you from experience that a significant minority of overdue holders will bring books in and put them on the shelves, then demand we follow them to see them, remove the fines, and apologize.

I've become fond of security cameras, and this is one of the reasons.

As to your expectations of puzzled staff, they were mistaken. Odds are the system did send a flag when you checked the book out. At all the libraries at which I've worked the policy is to check the book out to the patron, and a staff member (often a supervisor) deals with the flag later. It happens a lot. What would have raised eyebrows for us was that you checked out a book you already had checked out -- a renewal, by definition. Some systems allow overdues to be checked out to "stop the fines," others require you to turn them in.

Yes, they should have looked in the DB as well as the BD. That's pretty standard library training - not the library science stuff, the practical experience stuff. (If a patron says they returned it, look at the shelf above, below, left and right. Look at the likely transposed codes - don't forget 6/9 and 3/8 misreadings. If filed by author, look by author's first name. Check the holding, repair, and tech services shelves. etc.) At every library I've supervised I've also required a check prior to every overdue notice plus a supervisor check for the "buying the book" notices. Because there are humans involved in the process mistakes get made.

Sorry you met an asshole. They exist in every profession; it sucks whenever and wherever they're encountered.

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« Reply #233 on: <10-03-11/2025:19> »
My main beef with the whole thing was the attitude that I copped from Day 1 - the assumption that I was guilty of not only having an overdue book, but of stealing the thing.

I did, however, find some small humor in the fact that I had borrowed the book because I was working on an ethics paper...

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« Reply #234 on: <10-03-11/2029:54> »
My main beef with the whole thing was the attitude that I copped from Day 1 - the assumption that I was guilty of not only having an overdue book, but of stealing the thing.

I did, however, find some small humor in the fact that I had borrowed the book because I was working on an ethics paper...
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« Reply #235 on: <10-03-11/2032:50> »
My main beef with the whole thing was the attitude that I copped from Day 1 - the assumption that I was guilty of not only having an overdue book, but of stealing the thing.

I did, however, find some small humor in the fact that I had borrowed the book because I was working on an ethics paper...
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I suppose the title might have pegged me as a troublemaker though - "damned student Anarchists, trying to bring the system down'. ;)

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« Reply #236 on: <10-05-11/0030:20> »
Fett, that is an awesome story.  My wife got as much of a kick out of it as I did.  +1.
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« Reply #237 on: <10-05-11/0329:30> »
Fett, that is an awesome story.  My wife got as much of a kick out of it as I did.  +1.

Thank-you.

I'll save the story about how I got an extension on every paper in my final year for another time. ;)

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« Reply #238 on: <10-06-11/1355:36> »
lol makes me want to hear that one but that was a good one.

Would have loved to have seen that. xD
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« Reply #239 on: <10-06-11/1806:19> »
Hunger Games book 1