[redwolf]

fatima?

[TheNarrator]

Fatima's the only Jackpoint member that I recall dying in Ghost Cartels, but I don't recall her having any particular beef against dragons.

[Wakshaani]

I could be remembering wrong... I've loaned out my Emergence and Ghost Cartels, so I don't hav ethem handy to check on at the moment, but, yeah, Fatima's who I was thinking of. Let's see...

[Longshot23]

Uh, in Vice there was a reference to gangland violence being the reason Dragonslayer and Fatima are dead. Pg 31.

Is that what you're thinking of?

[Wakshaani]

No, that's Fastjack saying "Don't get mixed up with organized crime and getting whacked".

There's a thing with Dragonslayer being dead and Fatima (Again, I could swear it's her, but it might have been someone else) being pissed over it and picking up the torch. Watch it be Goat Foot instead.

[Mirikon]

Yeah, I don't recall Fatima being anti-dragon, even in the Shadowland days.

[Wakshaani]

Yeah, it's Fatima.JamesMeirs, icon of awesome, found the passage, but hasn't pointed out what book it's in yet. If anyone has a few minutes, Fastjack's list of Jackpointer posts, and a good library, they should be able to get the passage before I get back from work. (At lunch now, onweak laptopwith bad spacebar and no access to the libraryof doom.) Mentions howshe never thought she'dmiss Dragonslayer, but now that he's gone, she does, and that she's getting tooold for thiscrap.

Back to the dayjob for me, but I'llbe back here in a few hours, with a good spacebar.

[Mirikon]

Went through the list, and the quote in question is in Runner Havens, page 54. On reading it, I don't think the quote is so much a statement that Fatima hates dragons as it is frustration with draconic power games, specifically those involving Lung and Ryumyo and their pet syndicates.

[TheNarrator]

> I never thought I’d miss Dragonslayer, the old nutjob. I’m getting
   too old for this shit.
> Fatima

Doesn't seem to be Fatima expressing an agreement with Dragonslayer's dragonhate, so much as her realizing that she'd gotten used to hearing him chime in at moments like these, so now the absence of it is a reminder that he's dead.

[CanRay]

After you've buried far too many friends, acquaintances, and even enemies...  It does age you rather quickly.

I mean, Bull, who Goblinized and will live a Human lifespan, is what, only 40?  You'd think he was 40 in ORK years from the way he looks and acts.

[Wakshaani]

> I never thought I’d miss Dragonslayer, the old nutjob. I’m getting
   too old for this shit.
> Fatima

Doesn't seem to be Fatima expressing an agreement with Dragonslayer's dragonhate, so much as her realizing that she'd gotten used to hearing him chime in at moments like these, so now the absence of it is a reminder that he's dead.

Hrm. It does read differenty than the memory in my head.

Nutbunnies.

Well, we'll just have to wait for Clutch of Dragons to see if anyone's brave enough to unroll some venom.

[chinlamp]

> I never thought I’d miss Dragonslayer, the old nutjob. I’m getting
   too old for this shit.
> Fatima

Doesn't seem to be Fatima expressing an agreement with Dragonslayer's dragonhate, so much as her realizing that she'd gotten used to hearing him chime in at moments like these, so now the absence of it is a reminder that he's dead.

Hrm. It does read differenty than the memory in my head.

Nutbunnies.

Well, we'll just have to wait for Clutch of Dragons to see if anyone's brave enough to unroll some venom.

EDIT: The hell?  Why did it get moved into the quotes?

Speaking of dragons (figured I'd just throw this question out rather than starting a new thread), can someone tell me which great dragon goes by the alias 'Damon', if any at all?  He's mentioned in Running Wild as being the only known great who doesn't care what gender he transforms into for his disguises, but then isn't listed in the list of great dragons a few pages later.  As far as I know he needs to be a great to be able to shapeshift, so was it just a random comment that got past the editors, did they forget to add him to the list or is he an alias for another GD?

[hobgoblin]

> I never thought I’d miss Dragonslayer, the old nutjob. I’m getting
   too old for this shit.
> Fatima

Doesn't seem to be Fatima expressing an agreement with Dragonslayer's dragonhate, so much as her realizing that she'd gotten used to hearing him chime in at moments like these, so now the absence of it is a reminder that he's dead.

And a reminder of how long she has been in the game.

I get a less extreme version these days when i read about friends planning weddings, and family i recall as toddlers suddenly showing up behind the wheel of a car.

Then i really freak myself out by thinking ahead...

[Wakshaani]

Damon's not a great dragon, just a regular ol' dragon. He's something of a party animal, wearing whatever gender catches his eye that day, goes out and parties, sleeps around, and generally does his best to enjoy every day like it's his last instead of getting involved with dragon politics.

Like anything draconic, he'll probably be mentioned in Clutch of Dragons.

[Mirikon]

Remember, while greats have the inherent ability to assume metahuman form, any dragon can take one or more metahuman forms via a spell. It is a shapechange type magic, so gender is not necessarily conserved.