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Title: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-13-11/1513:08>
1,429 OOC posts later and here we are at Chapter 2!

We're going to add something to [IC] posts to help with the Where and When of things!
Example:
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Monday August 13, 2073; 17:20, Boyle's, Dowd Street, Warehouse District
Creepy Joe; PAN=Passive SIN: Joseph Farley Rt.6

Joe had finally tracked him down, luckily he knew just the team to call.

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Monday August 13, 2073; 17:23, ??, ??, Central  District
Carl Fooley; PAN=Passive SIN: Carl Fooley SINner

"One more time, just once... It'll be over then." Carl clenched his right hand.


Thanks Grimwulf for the header suggestion!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <08-13-11/1601:25>
GrimWulf as Noise

Noise is human, and stands at a shortish 5'5", with a very lithe yet strong frame, augmented through bioware alone. She's of Russian decent and has the characteristics of an eastern Russian (Vladisvostok blood) She dyes her naturally black hair with red streaks around the temples. She dresses in the latest styles from Vashon's steampunk line, and while not as charismatic as Silk has enough looks to turn heads.

What other characters know about Noise:
Speaks Russian natively
Speaks English passably but with a noticeable accent
Tends to send text messages over comm's rather then speaking (sorry if I hadn't made that clear enough before, that's why her english was better over comm)
Weapon(s) of choice is a matched set of customer rapiers.
Has also been seen to use a highly modified machine pistol, and carry a modified Ares Alpha
Drives an Opel Luna subcompact (varient model of the classic Nissan Jackrabbit)
Chain smoker
Likes her music loud
Is willing to take the lead into unknown territory
Has a vindictive attitude.
Has an outspoken dislike of men (Not that she hates them.... they're just worthless sacks)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-13-11/1651:40>
Farothel as Kitten

Kitten is a human of Arabic descent, a mage following the Egyptian tradition.  She was raised a muslim, but now follows the ancient Egyptian religion.  Not exceptionally good looking (at least not when compared to some other team members), she's not ugly either.  She has, however, a temper and a rather cynical look on life, due to her experiences.

What the team knows about her:
-She even summons and commands her spirits in ancient Egyptian, which she speaks fairly well, thanks to her mentor spirit (Ra, the Egyptian Sun god).
-She's an ex-mercenary who's been in a lot of hellholes, including places like Yucatan, Lagos and Chicago.
-She prefers the more covert magic over the flashy kind and so far the team knows she can heal and stunbolt people (because she told them) and turn things invisible (which she did). 
-She normally wears camouflage BDUs (urban pattern) with the unit patch of her old merc unit (Merril's Marauders): a red M flanked by two yellow lightning bolts on a blue field.  While she doesn't wear the patch on her more elegant clothes, those tend to use the same colours.
-Almost always wears a respirator
-Likes to play a game of poker from time to time.
-When in areas where carrying a gun doesn't get you interogated by the cops, she wears an Ares Predator IV in a tigh holster and a survival knife on her belt.
-She wears a golden Ankh on a chain around her neck.  For those of the team beside her with assensing, this is a focus.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-13-11/1914:23>
Xzylvador as Silk

Silk's an Elf born sometime in the beginning of the century, half Japanese, half Caucasian. She's extremely good looking and confident, well mannered and well dressed. She can hold a serious grudge against anyone who crosses her but usually manages to hide that. Few things, if any, are more important to her than her reputation. She'll do anything to be liked and respected by anyone she considers worthy and has no qualms lying and manipulating to achieve that. Chances are she's a psychopath and she's trying to convince herself she isn't. Or she isn't one and is trying to convince herself she is... let her get back to you on that. Reputation and being liked, that's what matters at the moment!

What the team knows about her:
-She's human, probably somewhere in her mid-twenties.
-Silk cares deeply about her professional reputation and career, trying not to annoy and even trying to please anyone who can advance her career.
-She's a social adept, capable of making people do what she says simply by saying it. Despite that, she's got some 'ware too.
-She can change from sweet as candy to cold as liquid nitrogen in a heartbeat. The way she looks might be able to change just as quickly.
-She always wears an expensive designer outfit which likely has been modified with a Ruthenium Polymer coating.
-She ain't a bad shot with her custom-design heavy pistol or the hold-out she's got hidden somewhere on her body.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-13-11/1937:08>
Larzarus as Space

Space is a dwarf from Atlantic City, where he worked as an accountant for a restaurant which was operated by the Vory. He has a quiet and polite behavior, short black hair with red-colored stripes. Space's eyes are brown but usually behind dark red glasses and altogether, he looks more charismatic than the average dwarf.

What the team knows about him:

-He speaks quite a bit russian but is prefers english.
-He is a hacker with some knowledge about demolishion.
-He uses his commlink instead of a weapon.
--At least Andromeda knows that Space has a Zastava CZ49.
-He likes to tinker with his programs and the sculpting of nodes.
-He has an old, but healed injury at his shoulde.
-He wears some regular clothes and has a new backpack or painted his old one with orange color.

[The team only knew Space for about a hours, hence there isn't very much more so far.]
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-13-11/2101:03>
Kontact as "Little Jo"

"Jo" is a Gnome from a traveling carnival.  One day, a wealthy man decided he would like to have her for himself and paid to acquire her.  She proved too willful and unruly for the wealthy man, so he sold her to someone else.  She spent the next half a decade hooked alternately into BTLs and hotsim feeds coming from a simrig attached to her own VR paralyzed form while all manner of unsavory people did all manner of unsavory things to her.  Eventually, she was freed from her captivity by an enraged Irish Mafioso, James O'Brien, whose kindness toward children was mistaken for sexual attraction by a very unfortunate brothel operator.  Who "Jo" was did not survive the ordeal.  What she is now is a living, growing hunger for death, born of the deepest despair that a sentient being can experience.

What the team knows about her:

-Probably female
-Likely awakened with trace amounts of cyberware or swarming with bioware
-Changes name, behavior and appearance regularly
-Everything she says seems like it could be a lie
-Carries a large number of knives
-Acts completely without feelings for self or others
-Goal oriented
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-13-11/2208:16>
Kouryuu as Andromeda

Andromeda is an Ork Girl, yes girl, only 17, but still an expert on Mechanics and electronics, as well as an awesome driver and sharpshooter. You hear her speak English. and compose texts like a lightning. She had a hard childhood and is still scared by that, she often distrust new faces, but can warm up rather fast if she feels comfortable. Her biggest asset is her home, a 18th wheeler with a workshop and most other functions a rigger would like to see it having.

What the team knows about her:

-Tech is her toy number one
-Habu, defiantly her treasure number one
-is a sharpshooter
-Dislikes killing if there is another way to settle things(mostly LJ knows this, but other might have seen it in her stance on things)
-not very women like, but then again how many women mechanics do you know?

Updating Post.
{Health: 0 / 10P and 0 / 10S damage, NO Wound penalty, NO Stun penalty} | {Edge: 4/ 4} {Defense: 4; Initiative: 12; IP's: 3} |
{Ballistic Armor: 10; Impact Armor: 8 ; Mods : Thermal Dampening (4); Nonconductivity (4); Skinlink} |

Concept:
Infiltrator/Demolition expert + face features

Description:
Former Corp [The Draco Foundation] spec. Op. Who faked his death.

(http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k596/kouryuuLV/cygoth.jpg)

Name: Sam Mule
Alias: Sam Race: Human
Sex: Male   Age: 21
Nationality: UCAS
Lifestyle:
CAS Sector Loft - Low lifestyle(4 weeks paid)
3K' s Safehouse in the Warrens - Low lifestyle(4weeks paid)
Karma Spent/Total Karma: 34/41
Nuyen: (Left after chargen= 0¥ Starting Nuyen= 400¥ (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/2981957/) - 22,500¥ In Debt+10935(M1)+10000(DJ)+9750(M2)- 18125(buying stuff)+3750(Smuggling)+6300(M3)-2190(Rent) = On Hand 570¥
Motto: Prepare for the worst, hope for the best and expect nothing!
Street cred: 1
Factions relations (this will give you a bonus dices to any social roll with members of that faction):


Personality/background

Attributes

BodyAgilityReactionStrength
4543
CharismaIntuitionLogicWillpower
3544
EdgeResonance/MagicEssenceInitiative
504.549 IP 1


Positive Qualities
Restricted Gear

Negative Qualities
In Debt (25.000)
SINner (Standard)
Day Job (1000¥/10hrs) [Travelling mechanic]

Active Skills
Cracking Group3
Electronics Skill Group3
Mechanic Skill Group3
Longarms [spec. in Sniper rilfes]5[7]
Pilot Ground Craft5
Knowledge Skills
Auto Mechanics4
Design (Vehicles)4
Engineering6
Hangouts (Junkyards)4
Hangouts (Safehouses)2
Navigation (Smuggling)3

Language Skills
EnglishN
Japanese4

Cyber/Bioware
CyberwareEssenceCostNotes
[R]Commlink[R]0.1922,000¥com in commlink equipment section
Control rig0.4810,000¥+2 when jumped in
Datajack0.096500¥?
Hot Sim Module0.1925,000¥?
Cybereye Rating 40.51,500¥ Smartlink; Image Link/Recorder; Low-Light Vision; Vision Magnification; Flare Compensation; Vision Enhancement (1-3)

Equipment
ArmourB/IMods
Form-Fitting Body Armor Half-Body Suit4/1none
Chameleon Suit 6/4Thermal Dampening(4), Nonconductivity(4), Skinlink
Forearm Guards0/1none
SecureTech Helmet0/2none
Street Clothes0/0none
CommlinkRe/Si/Fi/SyOperation SystemMods
Novatech Airware3/6/6/4Novatech NaviorigialFirewall and Signal upgrade to 6
Commlink Soft-, hardwarepriceNotes
Biofeedback filter R44000Soft
Stealth R44000Soft
Exploit R44000soft
Encrypt R44000Soft original - Encrypt 5
Analyze R44000Soft original - Analyze 5
Browse R44000Soft original  - Browse 5
Command R44000Soft original  - Command 5
Edit R44000Soft original - Edit 5

CommlinkRe/Si/Fi/SyOperation SystemMods
Renraku Sensei2/4/6(4)/4Iris OrbBiometric Lock, Armor Case 5
Commlink Soft-, hardwarepriceNotes
Biofeedback filter R44000Soft
Stealth R44000Soft
Exploit R44000soft
Analyze R44000soft
Browse R44000soft
Command R24000soft
Edit R44000soft

Activesofts R440000¥Dodge level 4
Subvocal Microphone           50¥–4 dice pool modifier to be heared in an audio Perception Tests     
Fake SIN (Sebastian Leer)                 (4)  4000¥Fake System Identification Number - Sebastian Leer
3x Fake License  R41200¥(concealed and carry; restricted weaponry;armour and accesory) - Sebastian Leer
Fake SIN (ZDF Officer Harald Black)                 (5)  15000¥Fake System Identification Number - Harald Black
WeaponTypeMods
VertigoColt ManHunterAdditional Clip, Melee Hardening, Skinlink, Smartgun System, Personalized Grip, Laser Sight
Concealable Holster75¥accesory
50x Stick'N'Shock Ammunition 255¥ammo
50x Gel Ammunition 255¥ammo
4x Spare Clips 25¥accesory
Streetline SpecialStreetline Specialnone
6x Regular Ammunition ammo
ZapdosYamaha PulsarShock Pad, Melee Hardening, Skinlink, Smartgun System, Personalized Grip, Chameleon Coating
Concealable Holsteraccesory75¥
35x Taser Dart 255¥ammo
5x Spare Clips 25¥accesory
Sensory enchanmentspriceNotes
Goggles                     300¥
   -Vision Enhancement      R3  300¥adds 3 dice to visual Perception Tests
   -Vision Magnification           100¥zoom magnifies vision by up to 50 times(optical or electronic enhancement)
   -Thermographic (Malfunctioning)           100¥Enables infrared vision, helps spot living beings in darknes darkness, check motor or machine has been running lately, and to track heat footprints.
   -Flare Compensation           50¥No modifers from blinding flashes, glare and heat flashes.
   -Image Link           25¥displays visual information in the field of vision or user’s retina
   -Smartlink           500¥interacts with a smartgun system for visual aid
Headphones             50¥300¥
   -Audio Enhancements       (3)300¥adds 3 dice to Listening Perception Tests
   -Select Sound Filter      (3)600¥allows the to block out background noise and focus on specific sounds, 3 groups
   -Spatial Recognizer(Malfunctioning)           100¥receives +2 dice pool modifier Perception Tests to find the source sound.
B&E GearpriceNotes
Gecko Tape Gloves           250¥Climbing help
Autopicker R              (6) 1200¥open locks
Maglock Passkey           (4)8000¥open maglocks
2x Microwire  100m           100¥
2x Standard Rope 100m          100¥
Combat Load Vest           300¥holds your stuff
White Noise Generator     (6) 300¥helps hide sounds
Gas Mask           100¥immune to airborne toxins, diseases
ExplosivespriceNotes
[R]18x Plastic explosives[R]  1800¥
16x Radio Detonator           800¥
20x Timer Detonator           700¥
20x Neuro-Stun           1200¥
20x Gas Grenade           400¥
10x Flash-Bang Grenade     300¥
8x Laes cigarette     450¥

Contacts

Jeffry "Jef" Fernandez, "Lunar Nocturne" Club Owner, Possibly Awaken.
Connection Rating: 3 Loyalty: 2
Uses: Secure Location to meet at, Latest buzz and information, Link to the Magic community.
Places to Meet: "Lunar Nocturne"
Contact: Commlink



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Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-14-11/0443:05>
Artighur as Hank

Hank is a 65 years old Dwarf. Usually wearing sleeveless shirts that show how muscular and cut he is. Most of the time he's can be found at the gym working out his body to the extreme. He's a very skilled unarmed fighter as well as a combat medic. Data shows that Hank retired with mention from UCAS army in 2067.

What people know about Hank

- He likes to please/impress and will do anything to fit in a group, especially if it make him look younger than he is
- Afraid of getting old, Hank get angry whenever his age become a subject
- Is terribly vain and can easily be talked out with soothing words and compliments.
- Is awakened and quite skilled in the arts of the adept.
- Hates salt, coffee and basically anything that bad for you. Eat only in bio shop and count calories.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-14-11/0615:45>
Kouryuu as Andromeda

Andromeda is an Ork Girl, yes girl, only 17, but still an expert on Mechanics and electronics, as well as an awesome driver and sharpshooter.

Orcs mature faster, so she's probably about the same age (biologically speaking) as my character (who's 25).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-14-11/0643:46>
Kouryuu as Andromeda

Andromeda is an Ork Girl, yes girl, only 17, but still an expert on Mechanics and electronics, as well as an awesome driver and sharpshooter.

Orcs mature faster, so she's probably about the same age (biologically speaking) as my character (who's 25).
biologically you are rigth, but i meant that she learned a lot, improved herself a lot for the relatvily young age. As well as she had no time and interest to embrace her womenhood.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-14-11/1233:55>
Space believes that the job is again about this politican and his black bodyguards, so I just wait for Chrona's answer, if the report is empty or not and then write a post about the LipReading program (He should have enough time for running this program in the sedan, in case report is actual empty)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-14-11/1310:07>
Are we allowed to have Advanced Lifestyles Chrona ?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-14-11/1410:48>
Are we allowed to have Advanced Lifestyles Chrona ?

yes


will post IC later
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-14-11/1520:21>
I like the headers idea... but I forgot to use them my first IC post and I'll probably keep forgetting to use them.
So sorry in advance, it's not for a lack of trying but probably a lack of brain activity.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-14-11/2043:18>
My laptop is crapping out.  I've got a plastic bag and fan hooked up to keep it from overheating since my fan died.

Expect down time on my end while this is resolved..
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-14-11/2049:34>
All right, good luck!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-15-11/1057:50>
An umbrella should help against the rain, no? (Of course, it'll melt in a week, but Silk doesn't need it that long...) Otherwise I sure hope Grim decides to park nearer, heh.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-15-11/1100:06>
An umbrella should help against the rain, no? (Of course, it'll melt in a week, but Silk doesn't need it that long...) Otherwise I sure hope Grim decides to park nearer, heh.
For a few extra bucks you should be able to get a chem resistant one too.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-15-11/1135:24>
Was looking for it, but avail 8 & 500Y minimum will take more than an hour to get.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-15-11/1157:19>
Was looking for it, but avail 8 & 500Y minimum will take more than an hour to get.
Pity but that's life, when Silk and Noise come in we can start the meet.
Hope Kontact gets his Laptop running properly before we move on.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-15-11/1715:58>
Quote
"Yeah no fun. Habu was my first, and will be my last, but i often take a look at other cars, Rover still missing in my list, but me and my Shin can always take you. even off-road :D. And if you want Habu, be warned, we have crushed many cars with Habu in my day." making a serious face " we are just waiting for Silk and Noise. CJ somewhere in the Back as well, but i guess he will join us when the Girls arrive."
Don't think you could've recognized her/him... Possibly Kitten might with assensing, but 6 hits is a pretty damned good disguise.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-15-11/1726:04>
Quote
"Yeah no fun. Habu was my first, and will be my last, but i often take a look at other cars, Rover still missing in my list, but me and my Shin can always take you. even off-road :D. And if you want Habu, be warned, we have crushed many cars with Habu in my day." making a serious face " we are just waiting for Silk and Noise. CJ somewhere in the Back as well, but i guess he will join us when the Girls arrive."
Don't think you could've recognized her/him... Possibly Kitten might with assensing, but 6 hits is a pretty damned good disguise.
Yeah Forgot about LJ, but CJ is defiantly at the clinic. We might just say Andromeda still expecting Angela, not Jun or LJ
LJ - Little Joe
CJ - Creepy Joe
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-15-11/1741:28>
Quote
    Monday August 13, 2073; 17:14-18:48, On the road, Renton
    Noise; PAN=Passive SIN: Genevieve Monroe Rt.4

Text @Silk: Yes I can pick you up. Do not know if we have time to shop though.

As promised, Noise picks Silk up in her car and amiably shares in the chit chat on the drive over.
"You will need show me this shoe store. I need new pair... or three." She flashes a grin as she passes by some old beater from the 50's. It looked like the thing was being held together with duct tape, and indeed parts of it were.  How it survived the acidic rain Noise had no clue, but didn't want to be behind it when pieces started coming loose.

After some time driving and a quick inspection of the neighborhood to make sure that the heat was gone, Noise and Silk arrive at the clinic, her car again parked a couple blocks away.

I assumed, Silk and Noise are already at the clinic at 18:48 (+few minutes for the walk)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-15-11/1941:36>
Quote
"Yeah no fun. Habu was my first, and will be my last, but i often take a look at other cars, Rover still missing in my list, but me and my Shin can always take you. even off-road :D. And if you want Habu, be warned, we have crushed many cars with Habu in my day." making a serious face " we are just waiting for Silk and Noise. CJ somewhere in the Back as well, but i guess he will join us when the Girls arrive."
Don't think you could've recognized her/him... Possibly Kitten might with assensing, but 6 hits is a pretty damned good disguise.

Kitten only ever saw Angela's masked aura.  Assuming that 7:00 has rolled around, we could just head to the back room.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-15-11/2009:32>
"Akuma,-gao o somukeru..."

Ouch.

Everyone but Silk, Noise and of course LJ, with Japanese at 3 or higher, roll audio perception. -3 for distracted. 3 hits need. Anyone who passes ill have heard and understood.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-15-11/2026:49>
"Akuma,-gao o somukeru..."
Ouch.
Everyone but Silk, Noise and of course LJ, with Japanese at 3 or higher, roll audio perception. -3 for distracted. 3 hits need. Anyone who passes ill have heard and understood.
Andromeda speaks Japanes(3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3151293/) forget to add the audio enchantments and the distraction modifer. They should cancel each other out. but I can reroll any time.
but as far for me i only knew Akuma=Devil, but i guess it could mean Don't dare to disobey the devil or something like that.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-15-11/2031:10>
"Akuma,-gao o somukeru..."
Ouch.
Everyone but Silk, Noise and of course LJ, with Japanese at 3 or higher, roll audio perception. -3 for distracted. 3 hits need. Anyone who passes ill have heard and understood.
Andromeda speaks Japanes(3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3151293/) forget to add the audio enchantments and the distraction modifer. They should cancel each other out. but I can reroll any time.
but as far for me i only knew Akuma=Devil, but i guess it could mean Don't dare to disobey the devil or something like that.

I could be completely off, Kontact can tell us, but i think its insulting.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-15-11/2046:39>
It just means, "look away, devil."  not a command, but a statement to implore mercy. Sort of a prayer against misfortune.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-15-11/2118:20>
Space hears nothing: No 1 and no 5 or 6 (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3151322/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-16-11/0048:54>
I assume, we (or better: Silk) will do the negotiating with CJ about the 6k later, when the team knows what they actually have to do.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-16-11/0053:27>
Usually price is negotiated before hard facts are given
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-16-11/0059:58>
But about what can we negotiate or in other words: What are soft facts?

Quote from: Joking
Johnson says: Kidnapping, 6k?
Team says: Yes!
Johnson: Okay, kidnappe a dragon.
Team: What?!
Johnson: No "what", you said, "yes" and now go...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-16-11/0107:00>
But about what can we negotiate or in other words: What are soft facts?

Quote
Johnson says: Kidnapping, 6k?
Team says: Yes!
Johnson: Okay, kidnappe a dragon.
Team: What?!
Johnson: No "what", you said, "yes" and now go...

Another Johnson of mine, not CJ, "You're Runners, suck it up"

You all ready know a lot if you think about it.

Like how the parson took a week to track down, owes a lot and can't pay, has something they want, probably needs extraction because you won't be able to get the item in the place he is.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-16-11/0430:48>
If we're going to be speaking in different languages, it might be a bit easier either typing whatever's said in English and just mentioning it was another language or adding a translation to English at the bottom of the post in a spoiler or quote box or such.

Silk's got Japanese Speak 5, would like to know really...
"Ohh, summimasen kudesai, chibi-sama." then she thought a bit and added " watashi wa akuma dewa arimasen, watashi wa Sue Desu. Anata no namae desu ka"
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-16-11/0452:57>
If we're going to be speaking in different languages, it might be a bit easier either typing whatever's said in English and just mentioning it was another language or adding a translation to English at the bottom of the post in a spoiler or quote box or such.

Silk's got Japanese Speak 5, would like to know really...
"Ohh, summimasen kudesai, chibi-sama." then she thought a bit and added " watashi wa akuma dewa arimasen, watashi wa Sue Desu. Anata no namae desu ka"

"Oh, I'm sorry little one."  "I am not really a devil, I am Sue.  What is your name?"   As far as I know, Silk wasn't in the room when this was said.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-16-11/1235:43>
not very well acquainted with Agent rules, and hacking as whole so what should i roll for the agent to do the search?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-16-11/1255:19>
not very well acquainted with Agent rules, and hacking as whole so what should i roll for the agent to do the search?

Extended Test: Roll [minimum of (Agent Rating and Response of your commlink)] plus [minimum of (Browse rating, agent rating+3 and system of the commlink+3)])

the +3 comes from the optimized3 option,

If you have a commlink with response x<6 and system y >3 you roll: x + 6

Actually, I also think that browse is more like the google search, that means, you can only browse for words. Otherwise the MonaLisa software would be very useless....
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-16-11/1314:36>
Actually, I also think that browse is more like the google search, that means, you can only browse for words. Otherwise the MonaLisa software would be very useless....
Not sure about it myself, but have seen it used this way in other games, so will have to wait For Chrona's judgement on this.

Extended test rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3152008/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-16-11/1456:49>
Actually, I also think that browse is more like the google search, that means, you can only browse for words. Otherwise the MonaLisa software would be very useless....
Not sure about it myself, but have seen it used this way in other games, so will have to wait For Chrona's judgement on this.

Extended test rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3152008/)

Monalisa is more like a security program for facial blacklists.
Data searching faces is usually allowed despite there being facial rec sensor program is arsenal
You get nothing on the search without his name too.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-16-11/1519:57>
Quote
As far as I know, Silk wasn't in the room when this was said.

Yeah, sorry. Missed that reading it quickly @work. Still, request for translations counts for future reference...
I wouldn't mind strange languages without translations if my char'd have no chance to understand or if Google Translate managed to turn it into something semi-coherent, but it failed horribly in this case. (It didn't even try! What a stupid AAA corp is that?!)
The BS I posted in the torture scene does translate, though I realize it would probably make an actual Russian cry to see what horrible things are being done to his language.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-16-11/1558:02>
Monalisa is more like a security program for facial blacklists.
Data searching faces is usually allowed despite there being facial rec sensor program is arsenal
You get nothing on the search without his name too.

Is there a way for Space to get his hands on such face database, e.g. SIN database or LoneStar database of crimials. Bribing a cop to get an account or hacking into databases, for example (does Space knows how hard this will be, or cost him?)

Or does it only happen in movies, that the bad guys have access to CIA, Interpol databases for face recognition?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-16-11/1612:20>
Slowly, VERY SLOWLY, make a backdoor into their system. It'll take very long to set up, and quite probably after a day or two it'll be gone again because of security updates.
There's talk about that kind of stuff in the fluff-talk in Unwired, I think it's around the pages where they describe creating and modifying backdoors. Some hacker that got a new record by having his Interpol backdoor undetected for a week or so.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-16-11/1619:36>
There are people who have it.  The ones making the fake SINs (especially the high rating ones) have ways to get in those systems.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-16-11/1708:52>
There are people who have it.  The ones making the fake SINs (especially the high rating ones) have ways to get in those systems.
Yeah, they even have write-permission, Space only needs read-permission, i.e. not even a security account.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-16-11/1713:54>
No one would give you access
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-16-11/1725:45>
... please wait for Silk to get her new fake SIN before you try either recruiting a Interpol mole or breaking into their system. She'll want to run and hide very fast. :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-16-11/1730:01>
No one would give you access
Not for free, of course. But there are always a bribable cops in the matrix devision of LoneStar.  ;) But this will probably be something Space can check out after this run.

... please wait for Silk to get her new fake SIN before you try either recruiting a Interpol mole or breaking into their system. She'll want to run and hide very fast. :)
A little bit more confidence in your team hacker plz. I will make sure, everybody will get a fair warning befor the swat team arrives  ;D

Quote from: Space's action, 10minutes before the cops break the door
Space: Uhm...team...uhm...we should go.... *wusch* Space sprints out of the backdoor.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <08-16-11/1845:49>
Too bad lonestar doesn't run thing's in seattle anymore.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-16-11/1858:17>
Too bad lonestar doesn't run thing's in seattle anymore.
Hmm, old databases from closing-down sale, easier to get/cheaper and some data might be still usefull
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-16-11/2328:48>
Too bad lonestar doesn't run thing's in seattle anymore.

It sort of depends on the year.  In 2072 LS still paroled the shittier parts of town, but I think they've been fazed completely out by 2073.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-16-11/2357:18>
Too bad lonestar doesn't run thing's in seattle anymore.

It sort of depends on the year.  In 2072 LS still paroled the shittier parts of town, but I think they've been fazed completely out by 2073.

Yeah IC is '73
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-17-11/0201:54>
Actually, I also think that browse is more like the google search, that means, you can only browse for words. Otherwise the MonaLisa software would be very useless....
Not sure about it myself, but have seen it used this way in other games, so will have to wait For Chrona's judgement on this.

Extended test rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3152008/)

Monalisa is more like a security program for facial blacklists.
Data searching faces is usually allowed despite there being facial rec sensor program is arsenal
You get nothing on the search without his name too.

what's the interval for he search?
when can i sent the team the "happy" news?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-17-11/0246:23>
Quote from: SR4, page 220
SEARCH TABLE
Threshold Dificulty
 2 Easy
 4 Average
 8 Hard
 16 Extreme

 Interval Search Area
 1 Initiative Pass Same device
 1 Combat Turn Same network
 1 Minute Entire Matrix

But beware of the Halting problem!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-17-11/0405:40>
Negotiation (16d6.hits(5)=4) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3153031/)
Ah well, could be worse I guess... Considering asking to round it to 50k, then take 1k negotiation fee as reward for Silk's word according to LJ's work ethics... :) But with such an unspectacular roll, I won't.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-18-11/0243:48>
If you don't know the logo, here is a hint:


Its a movie: Repo Men (http://www.theunioncares.com/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-18-11/0253:41>
Quote from: Silk in IC
A scene from a movie she saw decades ago popped into her mind. She'd seen it in movie history as an example of a well set up deux-ex-machina. What was it called? Repo Men. A futuristic movie about people sent after other people who couldn't pay the mortgage on their synthetic organs and had to collect the organs back. Amazing how close to the truth they'd been.

Beat you! :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-18-11/0515:58>
Extended test rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3154513/)
Ok here are the rolls for the Second search.
Home sweet home  ;D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-18-11/1037:52>
Suddenly Silk dies.


=D


I kid
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <08-18-11/1107:44>
Good thing you probably wont need it, but you critically glitched on the last roll Kouryuu!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-18-11/1120:04>
I kid

Of course you do.

Silk's one of the IMMORTAL elves!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <08-18-11/1128:01>
I think you spelled immoral wrong Xyl
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-18-11/1128:37>
I think you spelled immoral wrong Xyl

+1
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-18-11/1307:16>
For the header: How long did the meeting go?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-18-11/1316:17>
An hour
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-18-11/1337:59>
I think you spelled immoral wrong Xyl

.... And I think you....
damn it!

your mother spelled immoral wrong!

Yeah... that's a good one...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-18-11/1937:14>
thanks Chrona, really did not see the opportunity there.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-19-11/1351:50>
Uhm, Lazarus:
Quote
Creepy Joe rises again to see you out, "We'd prefer just the hand brought back, not the whole body
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-19-11/1409:15>
So what, CJ 'prefers' it, but what should we do with the rest of the body then? If you know a foolproof way to let Mr. Aki vanish after we removed his hand, that's okay.

Space doesn't like this more bloody part of the job and would 'prefer': Take hand plus rest of the body to CJ, get the money and don't ask about, what CJ do with Aki afterwards. If CJ tells us, we get less money for the whole body, we can still cut of Aki's arm right infront of CJ.

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-19-11/1420:51>
Can I roll Medical Background or Cybertech to make sure that just cutting off the arm wouldn't damage the ware ? I'm pretty sure it must be surgically removed to keep it safe but I might be mistaken
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-19-11/1438:33>
So what, CJ 'prefers' it, but what should we do with the rest of the body then? If you know a foolproof way to let Mr. Aki vanish after we removed his hand, that's okay.

Space doesn't like this more bloody part of the job and would 'prefer': Take hand plus rest of the body to CJ, get the money and don't ask about, what CJ do with Aki afterwards. If CJ tells us, we get less money for the whole body, we can still cut of Aki's arm right infront of CJ.

Kay then, just thought you might've missed it.  but will give the rest some time to post first.
IMO, he doesn't need to vanish or anything, we just need to get his hand. And pissing off an employer because you've got a problem with blood... you do know who we're working for, right? (Not that Silk would mind looking out for other employers, but that's got little to do with ethics and more with the perception thereof and reputation.)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-19-11/2000:59>
Long busy day, updates tomorrow x_x
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-19-11/2011:00>
Long busy day, updates tomorrow x_x
Long busy weekend, and seeing today as the first of 3 days there will most likely be no worth reading posts from me until Monday.
Have a nice Weekend.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-22-11/0220:27>
Chrona, you passed 2000 posts!
Gratz... you freak!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-22-11/0228:19>
Chrona, you passed 2000 posts!
Gratz... you freak!

Thank you =D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-22-11/1621:19>
Would expect some warding

You dunno the half of it
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <08-22-11/1643:48>
So yeah.... Nuke the place from orbit?   It's the only way to be sure.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-22-11/1712:58>
Anyone happen to have a Thor operator as a L6 contact?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-23-11/0615:28>
Hum, back to school, .... after 5 years off. I'm a bit off balance.

Posting should be different but I do have frequent access to my computer from school, so it might even be greater.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-23-11/0934:09>
longest post ever by phone.
never more.
 :-\
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-23-11/1036:04>
I'm starting my last year of my Physics Degree Sep 18th, no idea how game will be effected
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-23-11/1830:35>
I -may- be slightly drunk, blame my brother and father.  So if that post is totally disastrous, give me a heads up to fix it :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-23-11/1834:38>
I -may- be slightly drunk, blame my brother and father.  So if that post is totally disastrous, give me a heads up to fix it :p

Looks fine.

Man Borderline Personality Disorder freaks me out. Kontact you play it very well
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-24-11/0005:07>
Must... sleep.... must stop watching http://youtu.be/qdFvf0clVyA ....

x_x


Doc Wagon: "We lost another GM to youtubr! Send the HTRT"
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-24-11/0128:55>
Just laying the groundwork for the Adepts to get some initiation discounts.   ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-24-11/0855:43>
Just laying the groundwork for the Adepts to get some initiation discounts.   ;)

I like the way you think :)
(LJ's a bit less :p)

Anyhow, didn't use the headers because the commchatter between Silk & LJ can be done while moving and because I don't know where the hell we are. lol.
I kind of pictured we were using Habu as safe house for the moment (and at the moment, using the bathroom there).

Really want disguise raised, but wanted to break stealth group only when I got it to 3 or 4.... so many things to spend karma on :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-24-11/2054:18>
I'm sure they have a public node to host their website. A top-hotel without a website, where the guest can get contact information, do the booking and all the stuff.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-24-11/2107:20>
I'm sure they have a public node to host their website. A top-hotel without a website, where the guest can get contact information, do the booking and all the stuff.

Nope, turns out all booking is in person, the website is hosted on a Horizon Media node.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-25-11/0543:11>
I don't know if it's still so in  2073 but if you visit a hotel, you only have to pay for each night, i.e. if you leave the hotel before (complaining that it wasn't the quality you where looking for or something like that) you don't have to pay for the night. Only for the stuff like the mini-bar, if you used it. Space can use his accounting skill to know about those things?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-25-11/0957:17>
I don't know if it's still so in  2073 but if you visit a hotel, you only have to pay for each night, i.e. if you leave the hotel before (complaining that it wasn't the quality you where looking for or something like that) you don't have to pay for the night. Only for the stuff like the mini-bar, if you used it. Space can use his accounting skill to know about those things?

Yes thats true, it'll be much harder at a PR corp like horizons though.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-25-11/1047:01>
By the way Chrona, do we need a medical surgery to safely remove the Cyberhand or we can just cut the arm? I asked earlier but it got lost in posting i think. I can roll Cybertech if needed
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-25-11/1100:17>
You're good enough to remove it anywhere, with the correct sugery intervals/penalties (can someone direct me to the intervals for surgery?), without damaging the hand.

Its what shape you want the "patient" in though
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-25-11/1119:01>
Aug.126 at the bottom of the page has Trauma Surgery, but the threshold is "variable", so still up to you.
Table at Aug.127 has thresholds for implants, but those all take hours... A lot harder putting something in than cutting off a part.
Army medics in the field can do pretty quick amputations is the damage is too extensive and chance of infection far too high.

Silk's idea of "cut it off at the elbow, that makes sure the hand is unharmed and can be more carefully removed later" doesn't work?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-25-11/1123:09>
Aug.126 at the bottom of the page has Trauma Surgery, but the threshold is "variable", so still up to you.
Table at Aug.127 has thresholds for implants, but those all take hours... A lot harder putting something in than cutting off a part.
Army medics in the field can do pretty quick amputations is the damage is too extensive and chance of infection far too high.

Silk's idea of "cut it off at the elbow, that makes sure the hand is unharmed and can be more carefully removed later" doesn't work?

Thanks i'll play it by ear, probably 30 minute interval for removal, and Silks plan works if you refrigerated the arm in transit
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <08-25-11/1145:59>
Might have missed it, but was the hand an obvious or synthetic?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-25-11/1151:51>
Might have missed it, but was the hand an obvious or synthetic?

synth
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-25-11/1332:13>
Aug.126 at the bottom of the page has Trauma Surgery, but the threshold is "variable", so still up to you.
Table at Aug.127 has thresholds for implants, but those all take hours... A lot harder putting something in than cutting off a part.
Army medics in the field can do pretty quick amputations is the damage is too extensive and chance of infection far too high.

Silk's idea of "cut it off at the elbow, that makes sure the hand is unharmed and can be more carefully removed later" doesn't work?

Thanks i'll play it by ear, probably 30 minute interval for removal, and Silks plan works if you refrigerated the arm in transit

I'm sure we can get a refrigerator build into one of the cars.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-25-11/1351:41>
Aug.126 at the bottom of the page has Trauma Surgery, but the threshold is "variable", so still up to you.
Table at Aug.127 has thresholds for implants, but those all take hours... A lot harder putting something in than cutting off a part.
Army medics in the field can do pretty quick amputations is the damage is too extensive and chance of infection far too high.

Silk's idea of "cut it off at the elbow, that makes sure the hand is unharmed and can be more carefully removed later" doesn't work?

Thanks i'll play it by ear, probably 30 minute interval for removal, and Silks plan works if you refrigerated the arm in transit

I'm sure we can get a refrigerator build into one of the cars.

That counts as either a special equipment mod (not concealed) or a smuggling compartment with special...whatever the special one is. I think
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-25-11/1358:09>
Can't find where the full stats of Habu were posted, but didn't the thing have decent amenities? I'm all for taking some of the soda out of the mini-fridge to make room for a hand.
And don't hospitals transport organs laid in ice in a portable cool box?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-25-11/1436:03>
Get a Rolls Royce Phantom.  One of the 'standard' options is a minifridge in the back with enough room for 3 magnum bottles of champagne  8)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-25-11/1503:47>
Habu has luxurious/high ameties. Fridge should be there, but, Habu does not work as a getaway car - too bulky and slow.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-25-11/1522:55>
I know we're not at the planning stage yet, but if we need make our exit in a high-speed vehicle chase, things went seriously wrong.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-25-11/1551:20>
My Rover has High Amenities too and it's slightly less obvious than Habu  :P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-25-11/1629:32>
and you can park a rover in front of a luxury hotel without it being too obvious as that model is the classical example of the Chelsea Tractor: an SUV which is never used to drive off road, unless you count the gravel on the driveway towards the mansion (the Porche Cayenne and the BMW X series are prime examples).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-25-11/1632:48>
and you can park a rover in front of a luxury hotel without it being too obvious as that model is the classical example of the Chelsea Tractor: an SUV which is never used to drive off road, unless you count the gravel on the driveway towards the mansion (the Porche Cayenne and the BMW X series are prime examples).

He may want to switch out the new off road tyres
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-25-11/1639:54>
Aw, don't worry Art, I think it adds to the whole "Look, I can afford pointlessly large and expensive things I'll never even need" attitude. ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-26-11/0407:57>
He got runflats, not offroads.

But, any security from horizon ends at the property line or it's an international incident.  Meanwhile, any crimes committed in the hotel are not a matter for the city cops or courts.

A getaway should not be an issue.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-26-11/1128:33>
Booked a Last-Minute in an attempt to see some sunshine and blue sky for the first time this summer.
Not sure I'll have internet from this Sunday 'til Friday the 2nd.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-26-11/1229:42>
I'll also put an FYI: I'll be on holiday from the 10th to the 18th of September without internet access.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-26-11/1539:03>
He got runflats, not offroads.

Nah changed to Offroads when I realized that they were doing the exact same thing Run Flat were doing but with adjusted Handling when on/off the road, something I can live with and with the Off Road suspension from the Rover, it's a pretty good fit.

And to be honest, I live in Quebec City and I see plenty 4*4 running off road tires, I doubt that a city that is literally surrounded by barrens will mind. (and as Xzy said, Hank likes to show off :P)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-26-11/1659:08>
I'm back from Vancouver-vacation.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-26-11/1702:36>
I'm back from Vancouver-vacation.

welcome back
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-26-11/1728:57>
thx and some question to warm up again  :P

1) Can Space move through the matrix to a public node (e.g. a radio tower) near the hotel and scan for hidden nodes from there? Space would use one of his agents, making an extended scan test.

2.1) Is the Equilibrium disco still closed?

2.2) If yes, can Space find contact information for the manager/owner?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-26-11/1750:26>
1. Yes
2. No but patronage is so low that it  may as well be, its on a skeleton crew while they rehire. (if i said different before, consider it retconned)
3. You can try but you'll hit a loop of  info, the manager is Lucious Bradd, the owner is covering his trail.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-26-11/1833:14>
Location: Fine
Music: Fine
Bar and kitchen staff: fine
security: mostly in KE's morgue.

Quote
gambling tables, roulette, blackjack, poker (for the VIP area) and the trained personal for them and some slot maschines
Expensive and Equilibrium lacks a gambling license.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-27-11/1809:03>
You've found a node that, for all intents and purposes, is for an apartment block in Renton. So why is it showing up in your search? Looking round you eventually find a hidden link.

Password Please: XXXXXXXXXXXX appears, in japanese.

Quote
Roll Spoof. It's accepting any accessID

Space sees this mysterious node which should be in Renton

and a hidden node which can be the building node from the hotel?

And Space looks into the hidden node with this spoofing?

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-27-11/1825:28>
You've found a node that, for all intents and purposes, is for an apartment block in Renton. So why is it showing up in your search? Looking round you eventually find a hidden link.

Password Please: XXXXXXXXXXXX appears, in japanese.

Quote
Roll Spoof. It's accepting any accessID

Space sees this mysterious node which should be in Renton

and a hidden node which can be the building node from the hotel?

And Space looks into the hidden node with this spoofing?

It was just a hidden link to a passworded node, designed for people without hacking skills to be able to find
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-29-11/1527:11>
The tea lady will send a message to the whole team, that the data search is finished. Space is browsing through some forum entries in his hacker community, looking for the news talk about backdoors and exploits from the new firewall update.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-29-11/1908:41>
The tea lady will send a message to the whole team, that the data search is finished. Space is browsing through some forum entries in his hacker community, looking for the news talk about backdoors and exploits from the new firewall update.

The tea lady couldn't find anything you don't all ready know
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-29-11/2139:39>
The tea lady will send a message to the whole team, that the data search is finished. Space is browsing through some forum entries in his hacker community, looking for the news talk about backdoors and exploits from the new firewall update.

The tea lady couldn't find anything you don't all ready know

Yeah, expected that, but for RP someone (not Space) has to read through the stuff. You know, ruin a good party night with reading through dozends of boring news feads from half a year ago. Don't we have someone with the media junky quality?

BTW: Can Space download a new program from his hacker community at the night from monday to tuesday?
Blackout 6 (cracked) with Targeting and Optimized 3.and Armor Piercing 3 (if this works with Blackout attacks)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-29-11/2149:21>
I think it works, if you can pay, sure
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-30-11/0526:00>
Has someone a contact that might provide some micro spy drones? as this situation calls for them.
the same might be asked if my Con5 junkyard owner could somehow provide me with someone that might have then in the city or do i really have to drive the 10 h to get them from him.

if yes i will post the specifics, but chameleon counting and some basic spy sensors, nothing fancy, but not the factory layout as well. just so you know to give me the time.

Will do IC call as well to team and Junkyard Owner.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-30-11/1246:58>
I don't think I have someone.  A hacker might have some, but I'm sure a talismonger wouldn't be all that much help in the droid department.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-30-11/1340:46>
Is only has Av. 6, maybe Silk can buy it for you, without a contact.

There is also the Flyeye (micro drone) from SpyGames, with Av.11 and cost 800.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <08-30-11/1934:13>
Just a heads up, I'm still around but I'm bit busy at the moment (and will be until mid sept), I still check IC daily but don't have much time to post, especially since we are not in Hank's specialty, will find sometime if I'm needed.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-30-11/1947:15>
Chrona, Space will look at the node (don't go into it!) to see what the sculping looks like around midnight, when his scan bot returns and has found a access-node to the hotel. This way he can change his icon into something  appropiat.

Elysium, the place for the afterlife in the greek mythology? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elysium)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-30-11/2010:10>
Yup that Elysium, the ARoverlay and node unabashedly evokes a stylized Neo-Classical Olympus—complete with neo-classical columns, marble statues, and playful sylphs and nymphs darting between shadows (IC).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-31-11/0743:52>
Is only has Av. 6, maybe Silk can buy it for you, without a contact.

There is also the Flyeye (micro drone) from SpyGames, with Av.11 and cost 800.

It's completely legal to purchase.  You can order one for delivery or buy it from the store and then whack it with a tag eraser.

Availability is for black-market goods.  If you're not buying it from the black market, then it's just a trip to the electronics store.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-31-11/0958:25>
So for the drone
Mods either Chameleon coating + gecko grip or signature masking 3
sensor array layout would be motion sensor, microphone, camera with some upgrades
 vision enchantment 3
ultrasound
low-light
maybe something more if he availability allows it
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-31-11/1218:43>
So for the drone
Mods either Chameleon coating + gecko grip or signature masking 3
sensor array layout would be motion sensor, microphone, camera with some upgrades
 vision enchantment 3
ultrasound
low-light
maybe something more if he availability allows it

Honestly I've no idea how buying pre-modded drones work

Chameleon coating is R so you'll need to roll. highest availability maybe?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-31-11/1242:46>
Kouryuu: than you should probably change the mods into something legal and lower AV, the interval for gear with cost more than 1k is 2days, 10k is one week.

BTW: I don't know, but is there a reason why someone change his hand with a cyberimplant? Except that he misplaced his original somewhere.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-31-11/1249:14>
So for the drone
Mods either Chameleon coating + gecko grip or signature masking 3
sensor array layout would be motion sensor, microphone, camera with some upgrades
 vision enchantment 3
ultrasound
low-light
maybe something more if he availability allows it

Honestly I've no idea how buying pre-modded drones work

Chameleon coating is R so you'll need to roll. highest availability maybe?
the drone is just an idea, that would help us find him in the hotel, not even sure how the perception of drones work, so wanted to make it more invisible, either by making it undetectable or allowing it to merge with the wall like chameleon.
i have no idea either, but as a GM all is in your hands, so you decide how it will play out, we can buy it separated and then i will mod it myself, if it's all-right.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <08-31-11/1819:52>
BTW: I don't know, but is there a reason why someone change his hand with a cyberimplant? Except that he misplaced his original somewhere.

Well, deltaware is really hard to detect, so my guess would be some means to cheat.  A high agility would help with palming.  Radar cyberware would let him sort of see though things, but not so that he could read them.  Might still have some advantage.  Whatever the hand is for, it has to have something in it, capacity-wise, because just a delta-hand would only cost 25,000 nuyen, and that's less than half of what we're getting paid to retrieve it.  Even a R1 Radar Sensor would cost 30,000 nuyen at delta.  R4 would cost 120,000 nuyen, which is where we run into the territory of even a big-money jackoff putting it on layaway.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-31-11/1824:21>
BTW: I don't know, but is there a reason why someone change his hand with a cyberimplant? Except that he misplaced his original somewhere.

Well, deltaware is really hard to detect, so my guess would be some means to cheat.  A high agility would help with palming.  Radar cyberware would let him sort of see though things, but not so that he could read them.  Might still have some advantage.  Whatever the hand is for, it has to have something in it, capacity-wise, because just a delta-hand would only cost 25,000 nuyen, and that's less than half of what we're getting paid to retrieve it.  Even a R1 Radar Sensor would cost 30,000 nuyen at delta.  R4 would cost 120,000 nuyen, which is where we run into the territory of even a big-money jackoff putting it on layaway.

When are shadowrunners ever paid what the target is worth?

I want to be honest and say you guys think this through more than me =(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <08-31-11/1859:50>
Yeah, maybe one of this new X-Ray sensor devices from SpyGames; expensive, new and mostly unknow/ unexpected. With the right calibration, you can see through the paper of game cards to the paint on the other side of the card.

When are shadowrunners ever paid what the target is worth?

I want to be honest and say you guys think this through more than me =(

You have think about a good reason until we finally are able to get our hands on this hand.  ;)

I think it works, if you can pay, sure
The new program cost 1080$ (downloaded). Has everybody already got their part of the up-front money or has Silk all of it?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-31-11/1901:21>
its already split
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-31-11/1944:55>
Your Junkyard contact can get you a black market in Seattle to have a MCT Fly-Spy with those mods by Wednesday morning at the book cost +25%
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-31-11/2045:00>
So for the drone
Mods either Chameleon coating + gecko grip or signature masking 3
sensor array layout would be motion sensor, microphone, camera with some upgrades
 vision enchantment 3
ultrasound
low-light
maybe something more if he availability allows it
Your Junkyard contact can get you a black market in Seattle to have a MCT Fly-Spy with those mods by Wednesday morning at the book cost +25%
witch one?
navy(12R) or purple(14F)?
6625 and 10'000
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-31-11/2054:28>
ah sorry i missed that, navy12R
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-01-11/0240:02>
There is also the Flyeye (micro drone) from SpyGames, with Av.11 and cost 800.
Your Junkyard contact can get you a black market in Seattle to have a MCT Fly-Spy with those mods by Wednesday morning at the book cost +25%
maybe then really ought to change it to Flyeye and get myself a tag eraser. but that would mean no mods, to mask it.
And Horizon sounds like a place where you expect them to see things like this.
but as it looks Wensday might be a bit late, so if the fly eye is avalible we might use it.

Could i ask someone who heard Andromeda's Message about getting a drone @team on i mean, roll security mesarus knowledge skill and tell how it works against drones, if it would be possible to use one in the hotel.
she herself has absolutely no knowledge on that.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-01-11/1427:41>
I just made my SINs up on the spot, as I hadn't put anything in except for the names.  Since she's been a merc, she can be a disguise as a military officer.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-02-11/1156:22>
There is also the Flyeye (micro drone) from SpyGames, with Av.11 and cost 800.
Your Junkyard contact can get you a black market in Seattle to have a MCT Fly-Spy with those mods by Wednesday morning at the book cost +25%
maybe then really ought to change it to Flyeye and get myself a tag eraser. but that would mean no mods, to mask it.
And Horizon sounds like a place where you expect them to see things like this.
but as it looks Wensday might be a bit late, so if the fly eye is avalible we might use it.

Could i ask someone who heard Andromeda's Message about getting a drone @team on i mean, roll security mesarus knowledge skill and tell how it works against drones, if it would be possible to use one in the hotel.
she herself has absolutely no knowledge on that.

Sry, Space only know stuff about matrix security. I don't think the Flyeye will be there any earlier. Wednesday is okay, though.

@all: Is there anything else or can we can to the next morning? I want to discuss the two messages from the contacts (and Space has to start probing into the system for some hours).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-02-11/1240:55>
You can find a Flying Eye sold commercially at a Grey Market Corp Shop

Flying Eye
Std Upgrades: Vertical Takeoff and Landing, Level 2, Improved Sensor Array

Drone                                 Handling Accel Speed Pilot Body Armor Sensors Avail Cost
Flying Eye (Micro Drone)      +1          2/10    10       3      0       0           1     11    800¥

They are also selling sensors so you can add those on too but no mods.

Uniquely they have
MSOS Mk I (Mantis Shrimp Ocular Sensor)
The vision capability of this sensor adds +3 to Perception Tests to detect characters concealed through light manipulation
such as the improved invisibility spell or the use of a chameleon suit. avail 8 1,500 nuyen
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-03-11/0500:40>
You can find a Flying Eye sold commercially at a Grey Market Corp Shop

Flying Eye
Std Upgrades: Vertical Takeoff and Landing, Level 2, Improved Sensor Array

Drone                                 Handling Accel Speed Pilot Body Armor Sensors Avail Cost
Flying Eye (Micro Drone)      +1          2/10    10       3      0       0           1     11    800¥

They are also selling sensors so you can add those on too but no mods.

Uniquely they have
MSOS Mk I (Mantis Shrimp Ocular Sensor)
The vision capability of this sensor adds +3 to Perception Tests to detect characters concealed through light manipulation
such as the improved invisibility spell or the use of a chameleon suit. avail 8 1,500 nuyen
yeah this will be just right, and if it gets discovered,
as Micro has only one sensor spot i guess it will be camera with ultra sound and vision enchantment 3
1400 from book, not sure if the MSOS Mk1 is a camera addon or a separate camera, but i think this layout would do better.
so i guess it will be 2200 nuyen right? and then i still would need a tag eraser from my contact.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-03-11/0515:00>
Quote from: Kontact
It's completely legal to purchase.  You can order one for delivery or buy it from the store and then whack it with a tag eraser.
Availability is for black-market goods.  If you're not buying it from the black market, then it's just a trip to the electronics store.
Hm. Always figured availability counted for normal purchases too... If nowadays you want to buy, for example, a Bugatti Veyron, even if you've got the money to buy one laying around and have the address of the manufacturer, you still have to wait a long time to get one.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-03-11/0537:16>
Quote from: Kontact
It's completely legal to purchase.  You can order one for delivery or buy it from the store and then whack it with a tag eraser.
Availability is for black-market goods.  If you're not buying it from the black market, then it's just a trip to the electronics store.
Hm. Always figured availability counted for normal purchases too... If nowadays you want to buy, for example, a Bugatti Veyron, even if you've got the money to buy one laying around and have the address of the manufacturer, you still have to wait a long time to get one.
2200 * GM cost, means it will be available in 2 days, no on the spot i guess, Chrona can correct me on that, but the 10'000 nuyen and up is at least 10 days.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-03-11/0843:03>
so i guess it will be 2200 nuyen right? and then i still would need a tag eraser from my contact.

Yes and just use LJs


Quote from: Kontact
It's completely legal to purchase.  You can order one for delivery or buy it from the store and then whack it with a tag eraser.
Availability is for black-market goods.  If you're not buying it from the black market, then it's just a trip to the electronics store.
Hm. Always figured availability counted for normal purchases too... If nowadays you want to buy, for example, a Bugatti Veyron, even if you've got the money to buy one laying around and have the address of the manufacturer, you still have to wait a long time to get one.

I think it's upto the GM when the shops have it or not
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-03-11/0933:58>
so i guess it will be 2200 nuyen right? and then i still would need a tag eraser from my contact.
Yes and just use LJs
Ok, so i just go to a shop then, and get myself one
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-03-11/0949:20>
so i guess it will be 2200 nuyen right? and then i still would need a tag eraser from my contact.
Yes and just use LJs
Ok, so i just go to a shop then, and get myself one

sure
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-03-11/1025:55>
I think it's upto the GM when the shops have it or not

Yeah, availability isn't really a very well coordinated thing.

A full face mask for scuba diving has an availability of 8 and an interval of 1 day. 
I could go to a dive shop and buy one immediately.


Buying one that fits a pixie or a troll is another matter.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-03-11/1035:26>
I think it's upto the GM when the shops have it or not

Yeah, availability isn't really a very well coordinated thing.

A full face mask for scuba diving has an availability of 8 and an interval of 1 day. 
I could go to a dive shop and buy one immediately.


Buying one that fits a pixie or a troll is another matter.

And wih corp grey and black markets even drones are easy
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-03-11/2032:34>
TBH, I kind of forgot what car Romy's got....
Noise's Jackrabbit's a definate no.
Hank's Rover might be an option depending on how it looks.

How much 'd it cost to hire a Nightsky for a an hour? ;)

Silk's got a Horizon Middle Manager as contact... unsure what I want to ask from him though, without it being unreasonable. L2, C4 will NOT get us a free room for a week. As far as he knows, Silk's an expensive escort girl, not a Japanese woman and not a 'runner, so that's something to keep in mind when dealing with him too...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-04-11/0251:32>
How much 'd it cost to hire a Nightsky for a an hour? ;)
We might steal one, but it would make us to find a storage it, then selling this kind of car will not be easy.  ;D
maybe a present to Chrona/Blood-Claw, he had a lot of garage space.

TBH, I kind of forgot what car Romy's got....
Hyundai Shin-Hyung (Sedan)
Th e Shin is a toy for corp youth, a car made to be modified so its owner can show off his individuality in corp-approved methods. Owners often form street racing gangs to show off just how much money they can jam into their cars. Because of its fairly impressive handling, it is often recruited by the various criminal factions as well, and several Matrix and pirate reality shows about illegal street races feature the Shin heavily. The Shin has 4 additional modification slots for a slot maximum
value of 14 (see p. 129).
Similar Models: BMW 400GT, GMC Commodore

Could work, but it's Silks decision, Rover would make more sense i guess.

"Fancier cap, you mean an expensiver cap?" Space can't stop being an accountant.  "A nevermind. It might, by the way, be okay, if you are not a well organized person, so you can ask un-organized. Although, I still can't guarantee that I can spoof your payment for the hotel, sry for that, so probably better pretend you only looking for a suite, checking out different hotels."
Silk checking out a hotel in person would be even more out of place, for that such persons use personnel, like bodyguards representatives or just hire some kind of agency.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-04-11/0433:19>
Then maybe Silk should play someone from this kind of agency or a secretary of a rich suit, who take a look at the hotel for her boss. I agree, it would be nice to have someone who is a guest of this hotel, but Silk+LJ+Kitten= 3k$ per night. And since I don't assume we can't be sure to catch the target in the first night, we will have to book for at least 2-3 nights. Which will cost us 6-9k $ +tax, +minibar and so on.

After that, we can still go into the hotel, with someone other than Silk, playing the rich suit/her boss.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-04-11/0453:02>
After that, we can still go into the hotel, with someone other than Silk, playing the rich suit/her boss.
Do you have some fakw sin for someone like that?
the question is now about SIN's and how to use them properly, i have the Original - traveling mechanic and a Fake one as Delivery service/lorry driver
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-04-11/1055:23>
Dunno about the Rover, while it's quite luxurious, it got Off Road tires and stuff, not sure a Japanese corp women would want that :P.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-04-11/1115:27>
Dunno about the Rover, while it's quite luxurious, it got Off Road tires and stuff, not sure a Japanese corp women would want that :P.
We can always change them back to normal ones.
Not sure if Chrona calculated with selling or keeping them.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-04-11/1356:23>
If she has hunting or off-road riding as hobby she might have off-road tires on her car.  Besides, I doubt many people will notice the tires on a car.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-04-11/1357:53>
Dunno about the Rover, while it's quite luxurious, it got Off Road tires and stuff, not sure a Japanese corp women would want that :P.
We can always change them back to normal ones.
Not sure if Chrona calculated with selling or keeping them.

keeping
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-04-11/2229:08>
Quote
[OOC: What he has to do?]

This'll be a spoof test versus any scanners or security checks
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-05-11/0027:43>
Silk's got a Horizon Middle Manager as contact... unsure what I want to ask from him though, without it being unreasonable. L2, C4 will NOT get us a free room for a week. As far as he knows, Silk's an expensive escort girl, not a Japanese woman and not a 'runner, so that's something to keep in mind when dealing with him too...

Well, that should be a favor rating 2, by the numbers.
Quote
low risk. Loan use of specialized equipment (up to 5,000¥ in
value). Corporate action requiring the signature of a first-line
supervisor.
or, well, the room itself is probably worth a lot more than 5,000¥, that's just the cost to rent the executive suite for the night.

Don't know the benefit of involving the guy, except to have a 2nd room at the hotel, really cheap.  I imagine that Silk could pull off enough net hits to lower the cost of the room by 50% or more if he wouldn't outright comp it.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-05-11/0107:14>
I imagine that Silk could pull off enough net hits in bed to lower the cost of the room by 50% or more.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-05-11/0229:29>
^ Hey, we've all got to use the things we have at our disposal.

Where's that quote from, Kontact?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-05-11/1335:23>
^ Hey, we've all got to use the things we have at our disposal.

Where's that quote from, Kontact?

Favours table in using contacts section of SR4A I believe
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <09-05-11/2244:49>
omg sorry for lack of posting.  Got pulled away by too many issues. (two of them being computer games  ::) ) I'll get a post in asap

sorry again!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-05-11/2304:10>
omg sorry for lack of posting.  Got pulled away by too many issues. (two of them being computer games  ::) ) I'll get a post in asap

sorry again!

I did wonder =P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-06-11/0243:47>
Deus Ex?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-06-11/0514:45>
By the way, I'm having computer troubles again, so, if I go quiet for a while, that's what's up.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <09-06-11/1211:01>
Deus Ex and then Star Wars: The Old Republic
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-06-11/1301:15>
where are we going to meet the following day at 09.00?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-06-11/1310:39>
There ate still many things to be planed. Rover? Shin? Or rented limo?
Who, what outfit, role?
Doing what?

I only know,  that andomeda got herself a drone for spying, either by herself or by space.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-06-11/1343:33>
Rover if you ask me. I don't think it matters THAT much, it's just dropping us off after all.

Who's coming? Silk, LJ, ... the rest of you fight among yourself :p
TBH not sure if it'll be -that- useful, having brunch there, but at least we'll have had a look inside. Silk just spotted a good chance to have a somewhat decadent meal at the group's expenses and figured, what the heck? ;)

Meeting where? In our mobile HQ, no?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-06-11/1348:05>
As fas as I understode
Silk: as mother and business woman
LJ as her child, both offiyiellz on vacation (unoffizielly is not the concern of the hotel)
Kitten as their Bodyguard
All three have brunch at the hotel and get as much information about the hotel as possible. Which also includes asking about rooms, security and so on.
Hank as driver for the car, Rover or Shin doesn't matter very much in my eyes.

Space can spoof the car-id so that the car claims to be from a local taxi company (or a flyinh sausage, if you want)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-06-11/1349:12>
Stasya will send Noise Kork's commcode by midday Tuesday.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-06-11/1517:54>
Meeting where? In our mobile HQ, no?

Sure, but where will that mobile thing be.  As it can move, it can be everywhere in the city.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-06-11/1532:42>
Meeting where? In our mobile HQ, no?

Sure, but where will that mobile thing be.  As it can move, it can be everywhere in the city.

It's a mobil thing, it can pick us up and drive around downtown, a few blocks from the hotel (if it's okay, I say we assume that we are all in Habu at 9am).

 As long as Space is hacking into their system, Habu should move, in case a unnoticed Tracker-IC is triggered.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-06-11/1534:58>
Just as a reminder, we have a whole wall full of explosives at the safe house, in case we need to  ... you know, open some closed hotel doors.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-06-11/1624:15>
Let's keep the explosives as plan Z or something.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-06-11/1703:20>
Plan Z counting backward right ?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-06-11/1716:32>
A bomb threat would be a bullet-proof way to get Mr. Aki out of the building. Unfortunalty, it's also a good way to get the whole team killed by KE.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-06-11/1725:45>
Except if the fake bomb call turn out to be a real one :P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-06-11/1729:08>
That's the idea, we can't bring a bomb inside the hotel, but we can place one outside (parking lot or so) and make a call, claiming that we placed multiple bombs out- and inside. The hotel security will find the bomb outside and have to assume that the other bombs inside are also real but better hidden --> evakuation.

Only get our hands at the evacuation plans and we will know were Mr. Aki will come out of the hotel. The reason I don't tell this idea in IC is that there is a major drawback, its a bomb threat --> we will be promoted from shadowrunners to terrorists.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <09-06-11/1804:01>
So hack the hotel and fake a gas leak.

Same response less Tinmen.


Less.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-06-11/2045:08>
Or try a way that doesn't increase security's alertness...  potential explosions in the hotel is enough to put the hotel security AND knight errand on high alert...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-06-11/2344:55>
Will someone allow Andromda to use their com as a stepingstone to control  her drone.
guess will change the tires to the normal ones.

going on a trip, will post about the same or a bit less.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-07-11/0422:28>
My link has decent security and a signal of 4.  If you've got some ECCM, it might be able to work as an access point.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-07-11/1235:07>
My link has decent security and a signal of 4.  If you've got some ECCM, it might be able to work as an access point.
sweet
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-07-11/1252:50>
Or you can use one of the commlinks which Space has modified with the scan and monaLisa software and which Space ask Silk and LJ to take with them will she is in the hotel.

-You can feed the drone visual to the MonaLisa software
-If someone found the commlink and see the drone connection, Silk/LJ can pretend that it isn't their commlink (works much better than with a comm where their SIN is running on)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-08-11/1425:31>
This is probably going to be my last reply, as I'm on holiday from Saturday until next week Sunday.  I might get in some view time in between, but I'm not sure, so don't count on it.  GM can use my character in the mean time.  As bodyguard she just has to be in the background keeping ears and eyes open (with the occasional look on the astral).  Just don't kill her off.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-10-11/2149:20>
How old does LJ look like? I can believe that child, specially if they are rich enough to visit those coop. hotels doesn't have commlinks.

BTW: I thought LJ is going to find us a Yakuza gambler?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-10-11/2325:15>
She's a gnome.  So only 2/3rds as tall as an average dwarf but with proportional limbs rather than shorter arms and legs.

As far as a human child goes, that's about 3-years-old, and a 3-year-old isn't expected to do much of anything besides move under his own power.

There's time enough to grab a yakuza schlub later.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-11-11/0323:50>
Silk's waiting for your assist roll in disguise. (not that I doubt she'll get those 2 extra dice)

Oh, as for etiquette: Do bodyguards usually wear guns into places like that and would tasers be allowed (they aren't restricted after all)?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-11-11/1007:30>
Silk's waiting for your assist roll in disguise. (not that I doubt she'll get those 2 extra dice)

Oh, as for etiquette: Do bodyguards usually wear guns into places like that and would tasers be allowed (they aren't restricted after all)?

roll
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-11-11/1149:05>
You mean the disguise or the etiquette? :p

Etiquette + Cha (10d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3183789/) No kinesics or pheremones I guess.
Maybe my Fine Restaurants knowledge can help, too? Either with knowledge of the restaurant or the rules... (Forgot I had that knowledge)
Fine Restaurant Knowledge (5d6.hits(5)=4) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3183790/) <--- Oh, that's a nice one: 4 sixes on 5 dice! I suppose this is kind of late to say Silk's been there before? ;)

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-11-11/2323:37>
Silk's waiting for your assist roll in disguise. (not that I doubt she'll get those 2 extra dice)

Consider the 2 hits bought, unless you'd like to do it the other way around with Silk assisting LJ.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-11-11/2348:16>
You mean the disguise or the etiquette? :p

Etiquette + Cha (10d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3183789/) No kinesics or pheremones I guess.
Maybe my Fine Restaurants knowledge can help, too? Either with knowledge of the restaurant or the rules... (Forgot I had that knowledge)
Fine Restaurant Knowledge (5d6.hits(5)=4) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3183790/) <--- Oh, that's a nice one: 4 sixes on 5 dice! I suppose this is kind of late to say Silk's been there before? ;)

Tasers, Light Pistols, Heavy Pistols are allowed for bodyguards but would be registered at the checkpoint and Hotel Entrance.
They are not allowed in the Dining Area but an armed bodyguard may wait nearby
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-12-11/1840:20>
Ive been hurriedly pulling a SR one off together for friends tomorrow, will catch up on IC soon.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-12-11/2300:32>
As I see it, we have three channels through the hidden commlink:
-conversation between the team
-Andromedas drone comands
-Space hacking

Can Space spoof all three in one go, so that anybody who use a sniffer program (and doesn't roll enough hits) would only see for example a news feed for the current stock market?

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-12-11/2336:37>
3 separate spoof rolls i think
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-13-11/2106:40>
@Chrona: IC is down, can you roll for Space: Knowledge: Matrix Security 3 + intuition 5?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-14-11/1404:54>
I'm waiting on IC too i'm afraid
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-14-11/1659:11>
If we can't trust our GM to be honest about dice rolls, we don't stand much of a chance in this game.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-14-11/1705:47>
Rule number 1 of RPG : The GM doesn't cheat, he purposefully alter reality.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-14-11/1732:58>
I'm sure there can't be active jamming in a hotel's restaurant. I can roll later and if I have more than 3-4 hits with that and therefore will know something speciall about the hotels security, Space can remember that later.
So far, he stays silent and waits for Silk&Co to leave Habu towards the hotel.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-14-11/2156:16>
I cannot roll dice myself - it's a long story.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-15-11/0129:47>
Just wondering, in case IC stays down, are there a alternatives to IC, specially dice simulators  which saves the roll result for you online?.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-15-11/0420:33>
Well, asides from not really knowing what we're going to do there but enjoy a good and probably expensive brunch, I think we're set to go?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-15-11/0814:58>
Looks like Invisible Castle is back up
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-15-11/1054:28>
Well, asides from not really knowing what we're going to do there but enjoy a good and probably expensive brunch, I think we're set to go?

Space assumes that Silk has a better plan than just sitting at the dinning area to eat brunch and hoping that Aki shows up, out of pure luck. Also, I think Chrona said something about separated dining areas for hotel guests and visitors. There at least two things, Silk can do:

-Acting as the over-protective mother, the ask the protier or concierge about the hotel security as if you want to book a hotel
-At least leaving a message for Aki at the reception. (*)
-Hoping that at least the toilets are shared for both dining areas and that Aki sits in the guest area today.

In the third case, Andromeda's drone can inform you, when Aki starts to move to the toilet, so Silk can catch him in the toilet corridor.

For the second case (*): Even at the risk that Aki starts to suspect that we are after him. With 100k loan and another open debts by CJ, I think everybody can assume, he knows that someone is coming after him.
Looks like Invisible Castle is back up
Okay, its still down for me. Can you roll Knowledge 3+ Int 5 = 8 dices for Space?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-15-11/1126:39>
Went down again ><

I guess that LJ could do what kids do best in large buildings, get lost and "Search for mom ?" aka stalking Aki :P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-15-11/1131:20>
We will see, but I think that the hotel has a very simple system to stop non-guest from walking around: Personal (human or computer) in the elevators and guest are identified by their SIN, so little LJ can"t use the elevators.

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Edit: But in this case, that could be an option to find the room of Aki. Hacking the SIN-checking device instead of the whole hotel-nexus.
Hence, correction: LJ walking around and get lost, (maybe found by security or maybe kidnapped by Kork) could be a nice idea.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-16-11/1224:19>
Nevertheless: Xzylvador, plz go on!

Chrona: In case IC doesn't comes online in the next week, what is your plan? Are we allowed to roll by ourselves?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-16-11/1251:30>
anyone know a similar roller?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-16-11/1738:24>
Been searching the web for an hour and my data-search skills just aren't good enough to find anything close to IC. There are some that send emails for verification, although the one I just tried (http://www.rpglibrary.org/software/securedice/index.php) doesn't seem to send mails...

As for Silk, well, I was kind of waiting for anyone else to act or say something, but since apparently noone's going to: Chrona, feel free to drop us at the hotel entrance or something?
I still don't have many ideas but I figure that anything better than nothing, we need to at least have been inside the building to make some kind of plan...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-16-11/2110:17>
Good news everybody, IC is back at least here at Regina: Knowledge: Matrix Security 3 + Int 5 (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3186870/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-16-11/2127:52>
Good news everybody, IC is back at least here at Regina: Knowledge: Matrix Security 3 + Int 5 (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3186870/)

You'll be looking at more than 1 spider for a set up like this
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-17-11/1356:17>
I could be wrong, but I think the SIN's LJ got for him/herself and Silk are R3, which means LJ's just got busted.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-17-11/1358:26>
I could be wrong, but I think the SIN's LJ got for him/herself and Silk are R3, which means LJ's just got busted.

I rolled for a R.5 scanner *facepalm* editing
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-17-11/1359:09>
Oh, also, it should be around 11:00, not 12:00, it's brunch, right?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-17-11/1400:07>
Oh, also, it should be around 11:00, not 12:00, it's brunch, right?

Traffic =D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-17-11/1405:31>
3 hits vs. LJ's R3 and 4 hits vs. Kitten's... which I assume is the starting R4?
What's that mean, pass, fail or further checks?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-17-11/1419:15>
3 hits vs. LJ's R3 and 4 hits vs. Kitten's... which I assume is the starting R4?
What's that mean, pass, fail or further checks?

I all ways just say defender wins
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-18-11/0210:28>
You have to beat a threshold to win.  ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-19-11/0549:47>
Hey guys.  I'm back from my holiday (a week of scuba diving and lounging in the sun).  I'll check the IC thread this afternoon and post something.  Probably something small to start of.

EDIT: I have a couple of R rated items with me, but all with licence.  My weapon (and only regular ammo), my goggles with smartlink and a sustaining focus (not activated at the moment, so it shouldn't register as such).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-19-11/0932:46>
Silk's got her holdout, but it's broken into jewelry pieces and made of metals that doesn't scan with MAD scanners... Kitten's got her taser.

If there's a chemsniffer, she might be in trouble...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-19-11/1137:15>
Silk's got her holdout, but it's broken into jewelry pieces and made of metals that doesn't scan with MAD scanners... Kitten's got her taser.

If there's a chemsniffer, she might be in trouble...

I have a Predator IV actually.  And as a bodyguard I'm allowed to have a weapon like that if I'm not mistaken (I do have a weapon's licence for it, with the same rating as my SIN).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-19-11/1921:06>
Silk's got her holdout, but it's broken into jewelry pieces and made of metals that doesn't scan with MAD scanners... Kitten's got her taser.

If there's a chemsniffer, she might be in trouble...

I have a Predator IV actually.  And as a bodyguard I'm allowed to have a weapon like that if I'm not mistaken (I do have a weapon's licence for it, with the same rating as my SIN).

No problems there, i'll IC further after sleep.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-21-11/0242:35>
My head's about to explode. You post at 12:07 while the rest posts at 11:07 and have me greeted with 'afternoon'? Too many simultaneous timezones!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-21-11/0247:03>
GM said 12:07 so guess what time it is?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-21-11/0257:19>
Is that afternoon? Hmm.
Well, I guess English don't say "good noon" or something... Consider me lost in translation there ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-21-11/1002:49>
12:00 is noon, it's 12:07 which is after noon.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-21-11/1848:57>
Quote
I will need a test from Andromeda for flying the drone over the scanners.
Is anyone else sneaking anything R or F in that's MAD or Cyberscanner detectable?

Sorry, for missing this, but with the whole IC mess and my trip it's just hard to post everyday. or at least read it daily.

so Andromeda Would act depending of the dificulty of the sitation.
If it's nothing to hard(1) she would use this roll(2) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3192279/)
if it looks hard(2 and up) of  course she would need to use edge this one(1) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3192281/)

i just hope it's easy

but consider the drone in patrol mode, as Andromeda is no good pilot of flying things
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-21-11/2041:21>
Quote
"Of course Madam, the Maître d' is expecting you." He waves graciously to the restaurant's grand entrance. "Will you also be needing a room?"
Um, did we make a call?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-21-11/2044:45>
No, but why should he admit that he didn't get a call. He will probably let you into the restaurant and then send for his assitant or spider to check if someone called from Shiawase House Bank, maybe even call Silks's assistend or office to check where the call get lost. To make sure it wasn't their fault.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-21-11/2139:55>
Or you know it's a trap (http://youtu.be/piVnArp9ZE0)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-21-11/2146:59>
No no it's a "we don't make mistakes" sort of thing
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-21-11/2224:30>
Can you image that the Vory overtoke the whole hotel and, at the very moment when Silk mention Aki's name, the whole hotel crew drop their don't-look-like-russian-masks and start shooting at her, LJ and Kitten? Space can:

@Andromeda"Can Habu's kitchen make us some popcorn?"

Joke aside, if Silk really wants to know, she can probably roll for it, looking for small changes of eyes, posture or in the hotel guy's speech.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-22-11/0337:47>
Can you image that the Vory overtoke the whole hotel and, at the very moment when Silk mention Aki's name, the whole hotel crew drop their don't-look-like-russian-masks and start shooting at her, LJ and Kitten? Space can:

@Andromeda"Can Habu's kitchen make us some popcorn?"

Joke aside, if Silk really wants to know, she can probably roll for it, looking for small changes of eyes, posture or in the hotel guy's speech.

Oh god, that would be awesome.  A Die Hard scenario in a locked down and cut off hotel?  I would play the hell out of that.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-22-11/0712:21>
We have this rule at our gaming table: "Don't give the GM ideas."
It's a good one, you should all try it :p

@Chrona: Might add more to Silk's post...
I was wondering, letting that great success (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3183790/) go to waste... Silk wouldn't happen to know if there's anything special about the hotel or something that would be worth seeing? (Architecture, Art, whatever) Or is it an old building, like a 19th  century building or something worth looking at?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-22-11/1053:07>
LipReading Software, does Space has to stay with the software the whole time, or can he let the programm run on its own?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-22-11/1058:55>
LipReading Software, does Space has to stay with the software the whole time, or can he let the programm run on its own?
run on it's own

@Chrona: Might add more to Silk's post... I was wondering, letting that great success (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3183790/) go to waste... Silk wouldn't happen to know if there's anything special about the hotel or something that would be worth seeing? (Architecture, Art, whatever)
the restaurant is the special attraction.

Can you image that the Vory overtoke the whole hotel and, at the very moment when Silk mention Aki's name, the whole hotel crew drop their don't-look-like-russian-masks and start shooting at her, LJ and Kitten? Space can:

@Andromeda"Can Habu's kitchen make us some popcorn?"

Joke aside, if Silk really wants to know, she can probably roll for it, looking for small changes of eyes, posture or in the hotel guy's speech.

Hmmmmmmm
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <09-22-11/1148:00>
@Andromeda"Can Habu's kitchen make us some popcorn?"

yep it can, microwave is standard in the moving houses, and Habu is a luxurious one.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-22-11/1602:50>
.
Damnit, have to admit that at the moment I have no idea what to do, other than just have lunch ;)

Asking for a nearby bathroom for a diaper change won't get us into the hotel itself... Could ask if I'm allowed to take a look around, but that's a bit weird. Might disguise it as interest in the hotel's architecture or something if it's an old/chique building.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-22-11/1757:51>
a) The drone might see Aki at the restaurant, then we can time it so that you run into him somewhere.

b) We can fake a call from your Shiawase House Bank, telling Silk that her assitent run into some trouble (car crash, shadowrunners, spontaneous ignition, etc.) which is why b.a) nobody called the current hotel and also b.b) Silk's cover doesn't have a hotel reservation --> ask in the current for a room as a backup in case her former hotel hasn't any room left by now.

c) If we don't see Aki at all, just ask for him at the reception and leave him a message. And blame your assistant that Aki wasn't informed of your comming.

d) Allow LJ to start shooting.  8)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-22-11/2257:33>
e) Ask Hank to enter the hotel and start a fight with LJ. That should be interesting at the very least :D

The assistant thing is a good idea, but we don't have much people available  that be good for this kind of thing I think...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-22-11/2342:21>
What kind of people do we need, except for Silk? The assistent is dead or something near.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-23-11/0251:59>
Something like that was what Silk was going to say if they'd mentioned not having a reservation for Oren.
That option's still open later
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-23-11/0900:04>
Gotta love Google translate:
Did you mean: 疲れた
And then clicking it, it works...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-23-11/1514:43>
Hummmm closest I got is Illegal Fight Clubs :-s
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-23-11/1532:42>
Maybe you notice some notorious gamblers among those Japanese who often visits the Clubs? Or do you mean Fight Club just fighting and no gambling on the Fights itself?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-23-11/1605:51>
I mean Fight Clubs as an Illegal gambling activity where Hank is mostly an attraction and not really a customer :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-24-11/0423:06>
I have gambling and mercenary units.  I doubt any of those will work (and I sincerely hope my insect spirit knowledge doesn't work either).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-24-11/1215:56>
Sorry I'm being so slow, busy at work and even busier at home...
I'm thinking the IT guys are trying to block my access to this site too; I spotted an editted host file redirecting shadowrun4.com to localhost, but they put it in the wrong directory. *shrug* But if they continue trying...

Not sure we should be acting out each and every line though. Might be a way to write things (and combining with rolls) so they can be sped up a bit...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-24-11/1841:45>
Then give us a summary what you are going to do. I will write a short IC post right now, but send Space only observe the commlinks and waits what Silk is up to.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-24-11/1854:30>
For now, observation. Act normal, look around. If there's really nothing special to see, that's that. She's not going to do anything risky here, inside a well secured place with half of the team outside.
Might try to find some excuse to have a look inside the hotel part if you guys thinks that could be worth something, but if that doesn't go easily she'll drop it and just go.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-24-11/1923:03>
I think, priority is to make contact with Aki (either in the restaurant or by leaving a message at the reception) and only second, to find thinks out about the hotel itself. The very top thing is to find the location of the illegal casino, but I don't see how we find that in the the restaurant.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-25-11/0105:04>
Maybe we could "find" something that has Aki's name on it and hand it over to the desk? 

That's sort of a plan.  Better than just staking the place out.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-25-11/0149:54>
Maybe Silk could, but what do we find? You give it the guy at the reception and then what?

But we should discuss this part in IC. We have a very secure chat channel between restaurant team and Habu team.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-25-11/0155:41>
Something which might lead to an introduction? 

I bet if we said he dropped a credstick, he'd claim it.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-25-11/0248:36>
That's sort of a plan.  Better than just staking the place out.
Edit to my last post: Alternative, we assume that Silk, as a experienced runner has a plan and we in OOC-chat are discuss what Silk is thinking right now. With that we can go on here:
Something which might lead to an introduction? 

I bet if we said he dropped a credstick, he'd claim it.
Correcte, but only if Silk can approach him personally; I don't think we get an introduction if a bellboy delivers our credstick. (Aki will take it, thank the bellboy and that's it.) But so far, Aki isn't arround.
Also, if we doesn't approach him directly with the credstick: How do we know that it's his :
a) Silk can say, that he saw Aki drop it --> why didn't she give it to him right away.
b) Aki's name/SIN is a the credstick --> I don't think, LJ or Silk can forge something like that in the restaurant. --> I would prefer a plan which can be done now, while Silk is still in the hotel.

What does speaks again that Silk claims that she has a meeting with Aki (but his assistant has also failed at this)? If Aki really shows up: Oren(Silk) knows Aki from Atlantic City - bla bla live story from back there, bla bla - and Oren wants to go to the illegal casion (she is a gambler too). She doesn't has contacts to the local Yakuza, but she is very sure that Aki knows where it is (and she already paid enough for the entry code).

 To the concierge, Silk only needs to tell that she wants to meet with Aki, who she knows from Atlantic City and wants to talk about old and current  gambling opportunities.

There is also something: If Silk ask for Aki it now, before she goes to the restaurant (to wait for him), there might be a chance that either Aki himself or the Vory headhunter will take a look at her. Pro: THose guys probably know when and where the casion events happens --> we can steal at from them. Contra: Yakuza/Vory are taking a look at Silk&Co. --> Good think, you are at a high security hotel, where the can't attacke you. If anyone follows Silk&Co outside, Noise&Co. will be waiting *evil-grin*

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-25-11/1341:16>
Now something complete different: Movie: Soylet Green (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soylent_Green)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-25-11/1411:55>
Quote
Alternative, we assume that Silk, as a experienced runner has a plan and we in OOC-chat are discuss what Silk is thinking right now.
She went there with "let's scope out the place" as the plan. It would be pointless making any plans involving the hotel without even knowing what it looks like and who's there. Gaining more would be welcome, but Silk wouldn't consider a good meal and some useful info a failure of her assignment.

For scoping out the place even more, it's either asking for permission to take a look around the hotel or at something specific there. (Chrona, I asked if it was an old building, interesting architecture or if there's art or something... maybe you missed it, I editted it in.)
Another option is LJ wandering around by himself. I can't judge how skill he is so I'll leave that to Kontact; but I'm thinking that if/when he gets caught, security will just be totally embarrased that a child somehow managed to slip past their watch and he'll be returned to Silk. They're not going to open fire on a kid and I doubt they'll kick them out of the hotel too, more than likely they'll try to hide that he slipped past them, or even make up for it...

Things involving Aki: I'm not sure we're at that point just yet, weren't we first doing some info gathering?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-25-11/1447:01>
Things involving Aki: I'm not sure we're at that point just yet, weren't we first doing some info gathering?

What do we need to get to that point? LJ can walk around a little bit, I assume we the purpose to find us a plan B (Plan A is still to kidnap Aki around the casino, correct?)
Meanwhile, you can try to talk to Aki somehow, unless you can think of anything Silk needs to know before that?

You can pretend to be distracted by Aki, while LJ slips away from his mom. I don't know how good of a face Silk is, but maybe she even get the floor or room number from him, so LJ knows where she has to sniff around.

As I think about it, Aki has debts with CJ, the Vory and it seems also starts some at the Yakuza. He probably is very paraniod right now and won't answer Silks question for a meeting at all. So I wounder,what bad can happen when Silk ask Aki to join her for lunch? Remark, high security hotel, we can't approach Aki aggressively, but he also can't approach us or better Silk&Co.

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-25-11/1503:48>
... we have a plan A?
IMO, the whole idea of this info gathering round is to get some actual info before making plans.
How can getting him from the casino be plan A when we don't even know where it is, what its layout is and what security there is. We need info to make a well informed decision on what the plan is.

Quote
Meanwhile, you can try to talk to Aki somehow, unless you can think of anything Silk needs to know before that? "
Lots. Most important: the Bakuto Casino's location, who or whatever "The Bog" is -at the moment, I'm thinking it's a very risky something that gets you a 4 mil jackpot if you win-.
Best case, Silk can manage to convince him she's a big fan and wants to be just like him, he's oh so great! and convince him to go there together with her, making jumping him so much easier.

But for that we need info, lots and lots more than we have now.
If Silk talks to him now and can't manage to uphold the "I'm a gambler too!" con, she can't just show up two days later and try pulling that trick.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-25-11/1511:58>
Then, where do we get that info?

So far, we have:

-Buy it from Noise informant, but she doesn't like that plan and its probably not cheap
-Go to a legal casion and find a gambler and steal the information, but how do we find the right gambler? Could be risky and expensive (in time and neyen)
-Con Aki into telling us. If Silk doesn't approach him now, what is a good reason to come back to the restaurant without rising suspicioun?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-25-11/1531:34>
"If Silk doesn't approach him now, what is a good reason to come back to the restaurant without rising suspicioun?"
Enjoying the meal and wanting more? :p

Asking around in casino's was what I was thinking...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-25-11/1559:46>
Asking around in casino's was what I was thinking...

Does Silk has a suitable Knowledge-Skill to recognize who she has to talk to? Maybe I'm wronge and a Face can actually do that, but going into a legal Yakuza controlled casion and asking about an illegal event could be somehow... lethal. You would need days spending money with gambling to find the right people is think. Afterall we don't have time or money to buy ourselve trust from the Yaks. But if you think, its to risky for Silk to talk to Aki right now, its your call.

Alternative Plan: @Chrona, if LJ could connect the hidden commlink, she got from Space, to a terminal from the cleaning personal, could Space hack himself access with a standart account without breaking through that heavy encryption? The terminal from the cleaning personal probably would only get limited information, but at least roomnumber, name and special wishs like fresh flowers or german shocolad in the mini bar.

With the room number, we could use the drone or LJ to get near that room and Space can hack into Aki's link. LJ can even hidde the the secret commlink and don't need to stay near the cleaning room.

Risk: LJ will be seen in the hallway --> little-child-got-lostaction initiate
Space brain fried --> Hank-heal-him-action initiate

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-25-11/1800:33>
Uni starts anew tomorrow, hopefully won't impact my posting.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-25-11/2216:19>
Getting lost should be pretty easy.  Possibly easier if there's penalties for spotting tiny things.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/0343:44>
Getting lost should be pretty easy.  Possibly easier if there's penalties for spotting tiny things.

Gnomes don't get infiltration bonuses lol
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-26-11/1457:28>
It is worse a try and better than just sitting around and eating lunch. If it's okay, a IC-post for Silk or LJ would be nice to move on a little bit.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/1517:31>
/Sorry Xzy, its a completely Neo-Building
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-26-11/1528:10>
Quote
If it's okay, a IC-post for Silk or LJ would be nice to move on a little bit.
Uhm, sorry... I was kind of waiting for Chrona to post...
Silk said goodbye to the receptionist. Didn't post it, but after that it kind of makes sense to move to the restaurant, no?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/1547:50>
Quote
If it's okay, a IC-post for Silk or LJ would be nice to move on a little bit.
Uhm, sorry... I was kind of waiting for Chrona to post...
Silk said goodbye to the receptionist. Didn't post it, but after that it kind of makes sense to move to the restaurant, no?

Sorry, was waiting to see if LJ was stealthing it
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-26-11/1552:09>
That can still be done during or after dinner.
If we go that route, Silk goes to the little girl's room leaving the bodyguard to watch Jun, bodyguard gets distracted, Jun disappears... Kitten, prepare to get fired :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-26-11/1602:31>
What kind of distraction do you have in mind? Or simple, Kitten looks in the wrong direction for a few seconds?

BTW: GrimWulf still with us?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/1608:21>
Posted.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-26-11/1609:48>
Any major and real distraction would probably make the security a bit tighter and while I have confidence that LJ can sneak a bunch of guards it might be trickier with the full security looking for him.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-26-11/1613:44>
That can still be done during or after dinner.
If we go that route, Silk goes to the little girl's room leaving the bodyguard to watch Jun, bodyguard gets distracted, Jun disappears... Kitten, prepare to get fired :p

I can use that to go looking around as well, in search for Jun.  Depending on magical security, I can even go invisible for some time to do some searching.  I just have to know what exactly to search for (except for our mark of course, but it would be a big coincidence to see him walking in the corridor).

PS: Chrona: anything special in the astral?  Spirits on watch or things like that.  I should be able to see that once I'm inside the hotel ward.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/1621:51>
That can still be done during or after dinner.
If we go that route, Silk goes to the little girl's room leaving the bodyguard to watch Jun, bodyguard gets distracted, Jun disappears... Kitten, prepare to get fired :p

I can use that to go looking around as well, in search for Jun.  Depending on magical security, I can even go invisible for some time to do some searching.  I just have to know what exactly to search for (except for our mark of course, but it would be a big coincidence to see him walking in the corridor).

PS: Chrona: anything special in the astral?  Spirits on watch or things like that.  I should be able to see that once I'm inside the hotel ward.

Not in your area. You presume thy ait till called.
Sans the doorman and scanners there's no obvious security except cameras
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-26-11/1632:46>
I wasn't suggesting detonating bombs or mounting an attack as a diversion.
For all I (and the hotel's people) know, Kitten is just a lousy bodyguard and got distracted by a hot woman; or was actually doing her job and got a bit suspicious of those 3 men a couple of tables away that were looking in Oren's or Jun's direction; anything to just turn away from Jun for a while.
Kitten's a bodyguard Oren hired in this city, under the impression that Jun is a perfectly well behaved child who'll sit quietly on his spot and continue his lunch like his mother told him; no reason to think that little angel would turn into a sneaky little devil the second his mother walks out.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-26-11/1639:10>
Heh, just read IC...
Isn't corp scrip company specific? It would be a little odd if only Horizon personnel can go to the hotel...
A hotel in city that's surrounded by other nations and known for having lots of different cultures and people of all nationalities, only accepting its own currency?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-26-11/1645:21>
I don't know anything about Corp scrip. Can't you simply exchange some money into those currency?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/1647:42>
There is conversions yes, but it's extraterritorial to Horizon so trading in their currency makes sense.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-26-11/1704:53>
So, why 
Quote
drek
?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/1715:26>
Because a business omen, especially from a AAA should know, have done it ll ready and be paying in their own scrip
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-26-11/1756:02>
Quote
Then there’s corp scrip, a specialized form of currency that
the megacorps issue to do things like pay their employees. It’s no good
outside the issuing corp, and in theory only authorized corp employees
should have it,
but in practice there’s a thriving black market in corp
scrip—one that even has its own underground “stock exchanges.”
Emphasis mine for obvious reasons.
If corp scrip's the only way to play, only Horizon employees could eat there. And people who got it from the black market, but it doesn't really strike me as that kind of hotel/restaurant.
Besides that, yeah, a businesswoman would know that, imho someone with 4 hits on their restaurant knowledge check would too :p

But anyhow, corp scrip it is... guess we'll have to pull the whole kid getting lost thing a bit earlier?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-26-11/1820:23>
Getting lost should be pretty easy.  Possibly easier if there's penalties for spotting tiny things.

Gnomes don't get infiltration bonuses lol

Yes, but people trying to see gnomes get perception penalties. ;p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-26-11/1911:21>
drek cos it's a curve ball

Its a pre-emptive roll for LJ, one for each floor you look around.

I assume there's LEGAL Stock Exchanges too.

So there are.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-27-11/0945:43>
... that was a pretty quick action from LJ.
I guess Silk went to the bathroom and left Kitten to watch the kid.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <09-27-11/1014:29>
Yea I thought I had missed a post too :P Anyway LJ could probably have ran away in your face and we would probably have missed him :P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-27-11/1119:06>
Very well possible, but that would mean sounding the alarm right away instead of minutes later.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-27-11/1230:17>
IC is back for me, so I rolled the knowledge skill to find a exchange dealer for Silk and the Crop Scribs.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <09-27-11/1301:34>
Since Nuyen is issued and controlled by the Corporate Court, I would say all AAA's accept it.  They might put lousy exchange rates on their menus, but you should be able to pay with Corporate Court money.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-28-11/1253:53>
-So, are 4 hitsl enough to know a dealer, Chrona?

-Space is ready and waits for LJ.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-28-11/1301:30>
-So, are 4 hitsl enough to know a dealer, Chrona?

-Space is ready and waits for LJ.

You remember a black market dealer Kork had you use when a corper bet scrip at the retaurant

His rates are Nuyen x1.2
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-28-11/1409:05>
... all that money IS virtual, right? No actual coins, bills and other outdated stuff.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-28-11/1410:43>
... all that money IS virtual, right? No actual coins, bills and other outdated stuff.

virtual
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-28-11/2011:50>
Enthralling Performance,  Increased Agility, Increased Artisan, Increased Athletics, Flexibility, Dance Specialty

http://youtu.be/LXO-jKksQkM
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <09-29-11/0258:11>
... that's pretty damned amazing!
But moving like that? That's got to me 'ware man. Move by wires, cyberlimbs and a different person handling each limb separately.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <09-29-11/0509:07>
... that's pretty damned amazing!
But moving like that? That's got to me 'ware man. Move by wires, cyberlimbs and a different person handling each limb separately.

I'd still say adept
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <09-30-11/0255:53>
Operation baby lift is in full effect.

7 hits on the infiltration roll should help clear the first floor without any problems.  Other things to consider, the chameleon suit under his little sport coat and such has 6 levels of thermal dampening to deal with heat tracking and traceless walk should mean that pressure sensors are useless for tracking him.   

The kid is gone.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <09-30-11/1043:47>
Quote from: Kontac
As soon as Silk was gone and it seemed like he was unwatched, Jun dropped from the chair and hurried off toward the lobby.  Once there, began following the nearest woman whom one might assume to be his mother, matching his pace to stay a few steps behind her.

But I assume LJ follows a woman who goes upstairs and not to the restaurant?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <10-01-11/0132:39>
I wrote that assuming that they were already at the restaurant and Silk was headed to the can.

So, yeah, leaving the restaurant.  Not going up, because that's more risk without any real benefit.  More likely, going to find a computer system she can patch into for Space's sake.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <10-01-11/0210:15>
Chrona, have we seen guards there? What kind of weapons did they have? Guns, tasers, automatics?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-01-11/0802:32>
Chrona, have we seen guards there? What kind of weapons did they have? Guns, tasers, automatics?

Ou've seen no guards, active perception test to search for less immediately obvious security


So busy, ill hopefully post ic tonight... fucking timetable changes
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <10-01-11/2208:53>
Chrona, have we seen guards there? What kind of weapons did they have? Guns, tasers, automatics?

Ou've seen no guards, active perception test to search for less immediately obvious security


So busy, ill hopefully post ic tonight... fucking timetable changes

In 3 days i am back home, so then i will be back in action at normal posting rates, and will take back the drone. hope this will do.
thanks that Andromeda is still ok, and hope you still recall me as a player.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-02-11/0013:43>
Chrona, have we seen guards there? What kind of weapons did they have? Guns, tasers, automatics?

Ou've seen no guards, active perception test to search for less immediately obvious security


So busy, ill hopefully post ic tonight... fucking timetable changes



In 3 days i am back home, so then i will be back in action at normal posting rates, and will take back the drone. hope this will do.
thanks that Andromeda is still ok, and hope you still recall me as a player.

No problem
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <10-02-11/0556:57>
Int 4, Perception 3, Aug 3, Active 3 (13d6.hits(5)=4) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3203847/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-02-11/1219:06>
On your way to the bathroom Oren has spotted at least 3 armed individuals in plain clothes amongst the guests
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-02-11/1242:34>
Matrix Perception: 3  (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3203984/) +1 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3203989/) to check if someone is in the team's commlinks who doesn't belong there. (Specially the two hidden ones)
Perception through Drone: 6 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3203988/)

The Agents on the two hidden commlinks scan the area. They trigger a message in case they found a signal from Aki's cyberhand or from the weapons ID from the Messy Biz Chapter 1.
Agent Scan: Ext. Rolls (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3203990/)
And Space checks every few minutes the link list which is produced by those two agents for suspisious links, like Smartguns or hidden, private commlinks.
Single Browse: 3 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3203994/)

-----------------------------------------------------

@Kontakt: I don't know if it's harder or easier for LJ to sneak around in the upper floors with the hotel suits. But I think that right now, at lunch time, most guest are  either in the restaurant or have lunch in their suit (Aki for example). Furthermore, the check-out time is already gone so no cleaning personal should be around and the hallways are empty. The working-area at the main floor, on the other side, should be very busy right now (good or bad?), and a security terminal should have more informations clearance than a cleaning terminal.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-02-11/1529:55>
Matrix looks clear.

The guards oren spotted are smartlinked and running in hidden
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <10-02-11/1752:47>
So I'll just say what I was thinking:
Let's say the following happens:
Ms. Fukuyama exits the bathroom and panics when she finds out her kid's missing. A search gets started and despite all the security there, the woman or her bodyguard manages to find the child before security does; only they're kind of afraid to approach him because he somehow managed to get his hands on a taser from one of the hotel's own security. Bodyguard (or Oren) gets shot with the taser, kid drops taser and starts crying.
(Other situations where the kid is in serious threat work too, I guess. Just need to make sure it's nothing bad enough to be forced to go into a hospital or something.)

You think a hotel would do a whole lot to try preventing the hit on their reputation and avoid being sued. Like an all-in free stay in the hotel while she's in town to prove themselves...?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <10-03-11/1213:42>
If you play it right, it could be.  You will have to stay in one room with LJ though.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-03-11/1244:06>
So I'll just say what I was thinking:
Let's say the following happens:
Ms. Fukuyama exits the bathroom and panics when she finds out her kid's missing. A search gets started and despite all the security there, the woman or her bodyguard manages to find the child before security does; only they're kind of afraid to approach him because he somehow managed to get his hands on a taser from one of the hotel's own security. Bodyguard (or Oren) gets shot with the taser, kid drops taser and starts crying.
(Other situations where the kid is in serious threat work too, I guess. Just need to make sure it's nothing bad enough to be forced to go into a hospital or something.)

You think a hotel would do a whole lot to try preventing the hit on their reputation and avoid being sued. Like an all-in free stay in the hotel while she's in town to prove themselves...?
I don"t that that it cannot work, but there are some holes in that story:

What also could happen: Oren panik --> Hotel security but her into the lobby, telling her to wait there with the standart: "We have everything under control."--> Hote security find LJ first. --> Oren&Child are complimented out of the hotel (no way to come to the hotel with the same story/SIN)
If LJ has got e taser (where does she get the gun anyway?) and acutally shot one of the hotel security --> The Hotel sue Oren
If LJ get taserd, a hotel-own medic comes and finds out that the small child is actually not a child.--> Big Problem

In any case, as a Horizon Hotel, if a Shiawase Suit is suspicious (lossing her own child for example and panik), I would run another SIN check, just in case. Should be no problem for the hotel to do that descrete since Orens commlink should be in active mode in the hotel, I guess.

Hence, I would assume that Oren plays the professional Suit, don't panik and sends her bodyguard around the hotel, who will, only if stoped by security, tell the story about the lost child. And LJ shouldn't try to pick a taser from somewhere, to risky in my opinion.

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <10-04-11/0110:00>
Let's say LJ gets off following the woman and then wanders to the stairway.  From there, the eye spy drone can head up to the upper floors and snoop around while Silk and Kitten see about patching into the building's network.

Plan?  Okay, break.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-04-11/0211:52>
I don't know exatly what you mean with
patching into the building's network.
but I think it's okay if you just write an IC post and the rest of the team will reacte on it.

Also, LJ can put the drone in her pockets while she is on her way to the stairway (so we don't need to roll to avoid the camers). You can assume that if LJ ask for it, Space or Andromeda will fly the drone next to LJ so that she can pick it up (gently please!)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <10-05-11/0840:41>
Ok back to normal posting rate, but no clue what needs to be done, as Laz. is much beter then me at perception, and we both lack pilot aircraft skill.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-06-11/1334:32>
@Kontakt, if I have to change my post because LJ does something different than I described it.
@Chrona, does the drone see something like a door to a staff room?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <10-06-11/1551:02>
@Kontakt, if I have to change my post because LJ does something different than I described it.
@Chrona, does the drone see something like a door to a staff room?

@Chrona: I would like to have the results of my assensing and if he took something (I'll check if he added some RFID tags later on).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-06-11/2212:14>
Space is to busy observe the team's commlinks and the drones view, but I think he already has search for The Bog.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <10-06-11/2248:10>
Space is to busy observe the team's commlinks and the drones view, but I think he already has search for The Bog.
true, had missed it, while rereading, but i adjusted the post, maybe there is something still floating around. or we might find something else.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-07-11/0835:35>
may need to take a break this weekend,lots of assignments and ill, sorry all
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <10-07-11/0856:17>
may need to take a break this weekend,lots of assignments and ill, sorry all
GM is still a title for a human, so take as much time as you need.
You have my blessing on it
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <10-09-11/0221:36>
Well, if it helps things move forward, here's a shadowing roll to not alert the lady as he follows her.

9d6.hits(5) → [6,2,3,3,5,4,6,4,4] = (3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3213579/)

and, infiltration if that's needed  10d6.hits(5) → [4,1,1,6,4,2,4,4,6,2] = (2) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3213579/)  is naturally shitty.

At least traceless walk gives a -4 to hear.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-12-11/1020:44>
So busy. so much work

Quote
An aeroplane is of length L’(m) precisely when measured in its rest frame at the airport. In what  percentage it will contract if measured by the same ground-based observer if it was flying past at 600 kilometres per hour?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <10-12-11/1746:58>
42
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-12-11/1804:21>
I would guess 0% in case the airplane is build of a solid block of diamond or Lonsdaleit?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-13-11/0743:13>
it will appear to be (1-((v^2)/(c^2)))^.5 times the original length, with v=600 km/h and c=1.078x10^9 km/h
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-18-11/2032:13>
I'm alive but i just dont have time right now, sorry guys!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <10-18-11/2156:34>
That alright, mid-semester I guess ? Just finished my projects too :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <10-19-11/1216:54>
That alright, mid-semester I guess ? Just finished my projects too :)

School?  Man, I'm getting old.  :-[  School seems like ages ago.  :o
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-19-11/1455:37>
That alright, mid-semester I guess ? Just finished my projects too :)

Almost half term but there's no break

]

School?  Man, I'm getting old.  :-[  School seems like ages ago.  :o

Last year of a Physics Degree
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <10-20-11/0505:17>
Could you  remind me if we searched for Horizon Blueprints and other interesting stuff about the hotel we might use?
did not find anything while browsing, but might have missed it.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <10-20-11/1707:38>
I sort of doubt that a moderate security extraterritorial corp building would have its blueprints floating around for free.

It's not like they had to file their plans with the city.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-21-11/2259:11>
Possibility: That hotel is one of Horizons Mass-production buildings (Same basic structur, build out of preconstructed moduls) and so there are many buildings with the same (or similar) blueprint. Maybe one of those blueprint was but into the matrix, e.g. through WikiLeaks 2.o ;).
Its at least worse a DataSearch roll.

Maybe we will find a floorplan in one of the personal terminals.

Or maybe, our Vory Competitors rush into the hotel, start shooting, take the whole restaurant as hostage and ask the receptionist nicely to hand Aki over to them. Than we don't need a blueprint at all.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <10-22-11/0316:00>
Or maybe, our Vory Competitors rush into the hotel, start shooting, take the whole restaurant as hostage and ask the receptionist nicely to hand Aki over to them. Than we don't need a blueprint at all.

YEEEEEAAAAAAH!!!!

(http://www.collider.com/wp-content/uploads/die_hard_movie_image_bruce_willis_01.jpg)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-22-11/0441:01>
Only difference: We have LJ instead of Bruce.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <10-22-11/1658:45>
Only difference: We have LJ instead of Bruce.

LJ is a dwarf.  He should fit better in those ducts.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-28-11/0642:20>
I took too long and everyones bailed /o\
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <10-28-11/0731:49>
I'm still here, but I'm waiting for an answer on my post (the assensing + if he took something from me).  The question if he added some tags will have to wait for later.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <10-28-11/1044:50>
I took too long and everyones bailed /o\
Who bailed?  ???
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <10-28-11/1324:57>
I'm there too, just that Hank is sitting in Habu with Romy and is wondering what to do :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-28-11/1400:17>
Still here.

I wait for LJ to sneak in the service room and/or to get results for my roles (perception and data search).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <10-28-11/1410:46>
I'm there too, just that Hank is sitting in Habu with Romy and is wondering what to do :)
second that, maybe we should visit some place where we could do something worthwhile, like scavenging for resources, do no maybe a junk yard or something
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-30-11/0000:26>
I'm still here, but I'm waiting for an answer on my post (the assensing + if he took something from me).  The question if he added some tags will have to wait for later.

I missed this, sorry.

He's Mundane, with some head and bodyware, mainly a left cyberarm, nothing obvious.
He left you a note in your pocket it seems. "Word of advice, keep the kid in check, there's a guy at lunch you do not want to piss off."
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-30-11/0219:22>
Let's let LJ loss to see who the 'he' is.

How did the guy write a note so fast and who is he that he uses paper notes? Never mind.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-30-11/1313:49>
Let's let LJ loss to see who the 'he' is.

How did the guy write a note so fast and who is he that he uses paper notes? Never mind.

Electronic Paper is still common
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <10-30-11/2324:50>
I'm having computer troubles, but I'm here when I can be, which is pretty often.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <10-31-11/0234:40>
Where is LJ right now? I though she is somewhere in the staircase, Waiting for the drone to find a service room?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <10-31-11/1352:21>
Where is LJ right now? I though she is somewhere in the staircase, Waiting for the drone to find a service room?

Drone found one nearby that LJ can go in.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <10-31-11/2002:31>
LJ followed a woman onto the elevator, got off on whatever floor she might be on and then got lost on that floor while you scouted around with the bug.  Now, is headed to the service closet to patch you into their hardline.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <11-03-11/0816:16>
Killing people ? Yes, finally something I'm good at !
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-03-11/0917:03>
Killing people ? Yes, finally something I'm good at !

Depends if they find him
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-03-11/1214:27>
Space gave the hotel team the two disposable commlinks from Messy Biz I and I assume that one is with LJ and the other is with either Silk or her 'bodyguard'.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-03-11/1508:12>
Killing people ? Yes, finally something I'm good at !

Depends if they find him

If it's really necessary I can find LJ in 5 minutes.  Summon a horde of watchers and it shouldn't be too difficult  ;D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-03-11/1602:09>
Which will most likely also trigger a hotel alarm.

Has LJ any weapon with him right now?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <11-03-11/1821:18>
Has LJ any weapon with him right now?
Yes, his shoes, and other things he find to throw at people.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <11-03-11/1853:57>
Ah, forgot about the throw away link.  What's the signal on that anyway?  The benefit of the Sensei it that it's got a R4 signal.

As to the last part, that's just an attempt to provide motivation for a good acting job.  The concern of the searchers gets to be real as they look for poor little Jun. :D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-04-11/1516:30>
Ah, forgot about the throw away link.  What's the signal on that anyway?  The benefit of the Sensei it that it's got a R4 signal.

As to the last part, that's just an attempt to provide motivation for a good acting job.  The concern of the searchers gets to be real as they look for poor little Jun. :D

You'll need the R4, the throwaways are 3/3/3/3
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-04-11/2131:33>
Sorry for the inactivity here, will try to be more regular.

I'm almost intrigued to actually let LJ loose and see which part of her psyche comes out on top, actor, murderer or professional... but Silk probably cares too much about the negative effect it would have on her rep :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-05-11/0010:47>
I assume that Silk or Kitten made a foto of this new guy. Don't forget to send it to the rest of the team. Space is occupied, but either Andromeda or the SearchBot at the Savehouse can make a Data Search on him.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-05-11/0422:47>
Look at this its alnost like im building a world around you
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-05-11/0752:53>
You cheat! You wouldn't have offered that bet if LJ hadn't cut communications! :p ;)

Besides that, isn't it kind of a faux-pas to make a bet with a woman about her missing child... and wouldn't she want to go search for her son? Kind of feels like a trap ;(
Not that I'm not considering it... accepting to the wager would say a lot about Oren; as much as offering the bet says about the man I guess.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-05-11/0759:19>
You cheat! You wouldn't have offered that bet if LJ hadn't cut communications! :p ;)

Besides that, isn't it kind of a faux-pas to make a bet with a woman about her missing child... and wouldn't she want to go search for her son? Kind of feels like a trap ;(
Not that I'm not considering it... accepting to the wager would say a lot about Oren; as much as offering the bet says about the man I guess.

HE IS TOTALLY CONSIDERATE AND NOT A FREAK. DEFINATLY.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-05-11/1354:40>
That could be nice: LJ can avoid this new guy's bodyguards and let him self childishly caught by the hotel stuff. Oren, as a good winner assume a revenge and mentioned The Bog.  And LJ still has the throughaway commlink and probably also the drone near him.

Or: (http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/001/384/Atrapitis.gif)

Oh, and don't forget the corp scrips problem.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-05-11/1502:11>
Didn't someone (Space?) have a contact willing to exchange the money? If so, it's only a matter of seconds for some transfers. Silk's got a Horizon contact she might be able to ask too... but for now let's try getting this Japanese guy to pick up the bill or get the hotel to cancel it, no? :)

We did lose all contact with LJ though, right?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-05-11/1550:07>
Depends on Andromedas flying skill with the drone (to follow LJ) and if Chrona has a reasons that the 3/3/3/3 throughaway commlink in LJ's pocket does not work.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-05-11/1711:23>
The old man's commlink broadcasting any ID or other info? Not sure if in a place like this active or passive is the standard.

Edit: in case someone read it and is wondering: removed my last IC post to give others a chance to reply.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <11-06-11/1928:53>
@Chrona
i might have missed but what roll do you need from Romy
perception and Pilot, any additional ones?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-08-11/1603:54>
only slept three times since Wednesday, more work to do, cya the weekend
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-09-11/1254:16>
only slept three times since Wednesday, more work to do, cya the weekend

You need one of those (see attachment).  :D  Anyways, as soon as I have the results on my assensing, I can move on.

PS: what does the magical security in the hotel looks like.  I've looked into the astral a couple of times now, I should have seen the hordes of spirits and watchers passin by.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-09-11/1430:55>
only slept three times since Wednesday, more work to do, cya the weekend

You need one of those (see attachment).  :D  Anyways, as soon as I have the results on my assensing, I can move on.

PS: what does the magical security in the hotel looks like.  I've looked into the astral a couple of times now, I should have seen the hordes of spirits and watchers passin by.

He's mundane, healthy, no 'ware

a couple mages must pass through regularly, there's a few watchers around
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-13-11/2053:02>
Romy needs to roll perception, pilot and data search
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <11-13-11/2130:53>
Romy needs to roll perception, pilot and data search
Search handed to the agent (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3263654/)
Perception (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3263658/)
Pilot Drone (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3263671/) guess this Ork is not meant to fly
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-14-11/0347:59>
So yeah, let me know if you want to talk out the whole conversation, or just small parts & roll some dice or something; and what to roll. (:
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <11-14-11/0414:48>
Kitten has yet to beat LJ's signature masking.  Don't know if that affects the astral search thing.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-14-11/1246:28>
Kitten has yet to beat LJ's signature masking.  Don't know if that affects the astral search thing.

What is it?  The only signature masking I've found is something for vehicles.  I don't think you mean that?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-14-11/1423:57>
He means the Masking metamagic I think. AFAIK, LJ's using it to change her signature to seem mundane. (Can be used to seem more, or less, powerful too.)

I don't -think- she's got Flexible Signature though, that's the Metamagic used to make your signature appear as if you're another person.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <11-15-11/0722:14>
Yeah, no flex.  I forgot about that.  :-[
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-15-11/0843:49>
There's always karma...
Silk still needs to get both Masking and FlexSig and raise magic and get one of the ways and ... ugh. Need to play faster, get more karma!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-15-11/1316:20>
what do I have to roll to find LJ astrally, as I don't know what the signature masking gives as penalty.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-15-11/1833:38>
It's an assensing test where you need to beat LJ's masking, whatever that was

Silk: short with a con roll
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-16-11/0620:53>
Conning the rich guy: Cha 7, Phe 3, Kine 3, Skill 3 (16d6.hits(5)=5) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266709/)
Psychology isn't much help. Psychology 3, Int 4 (7d6.hits(5)=1) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266710/). Psyche (1d6.hits(5)=0) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266711/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-16-11/1025:04>
Either to crack the guest list file in the public node or to go up to the mointain with a Security Account (Threshold: Firewall +3). So far, Space runs in ColdSIM and has 3 init passes per combat round.

4xExploit: 7 + 5 + 5 + 1 (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266798/)

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-16-11/1315:15>
It's an assensing test where you need to beat LJ's masking, whatever that was

Silk: short with a con roll

OK, my assensing: intuition 5 + assensing 3 =8 (8d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266960/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-16-11/2037:59>
Does the encryption has to be continous or can Space start now, stop when the team needs his hacking skill and do the rest later?

And second question, can Space use track to find LJ by the disp. commlink?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-16-11/2124:58>
It's continuous and you can only track him if he logs on.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-19-11/0326:20>
It's an assensing test where you need to beat LJ's masking, whatever that was

OK, my assensing: intuition 5 + assensing 3 =8 (8d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266960/)

Do I have any luck?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <11-19-11/0537:55>
It's an assensing test where you need to beat LJ's masking, whatever that was

OK, my assensing: intuition 5 + assensing 3 =8 (8d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266960/)

Do I have any luck?
Search?
pilot?
 and perception as well?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-19-11/0646:09>
It's an assensing test where you need to beat LJ's masking, whatever that was

OK, my assensing: intuition 5 + assensing 3 =8 (8d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3266960/)

Do I have any luck?
Search?
pilot?
 and perception as well?

I don't need pilot, as I'm looking around in the astral.  And as I know where LJ was when he dropped of the net, I can narrow down my search a bit (besides, there's bound to be wards in the hotel, so there are places I can't go astrally).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-19-11/0734:02>

I don't need pilot, as I'm looking around in the astral.  And as I know where LJ was when he dropped of the net, I can narrow down my search a bit (besides, there's bound to be wards in the hotel, so there are places I can't go astrally).

I'll need to know if LJ got 3+ on masking
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <11-19-11/0754:50>
I don't need pilot, as I'm looking around in the astral.  And as I know where LJ was when he dropped of the net, I can narrow down my search a bit (besides, there's bound to be wards in the hotel, so there are places I can't go astrally).
I was speaking about my rolls, sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-19-11/1055:08>
@Chrona: So after an entire conversation, "not being caugth" is all Silk achieves? Not even a name? Or are we playing/rolling for that result later at the end of dinner?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <11-19-11/1100:44>
I'll need to know if LJ got 3+ on masking

Mag 5 +5 Int + 1 initiate (11d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3270403/)  E'yup.  Forgot it's mag 6 now, not that it makes a diff. 

Don't know if masking helps though, as Xzyl points out.  Recognizing the same false signature should still be possible, assuming it is the same false signature every time.  Those are some really foggy rules...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-19-11/1151:26>
I guess Masking changes the intensity of the signature -perhaps the actual 'visual' effect depends on the perceivers tradition- but not the signature itself. (You see the same person, only more/less powerful than before.)
Flexible signature on the other hand would then change the signature, but not its intensity. (You see a different person, but equaly powerful.)
Make sense?
(I always figured a Street Sam with 0.1 essence to have almost no intensity, almost being as dull gray as a lifeless object)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-19-11/1155:07>
I'll need to know if LJ got 3+ on masking

Mag 5 +5 Int + 1 initiate (11d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3270403/)  E'yup.  Forgot it's mag 6 now, not that it makes a diff. 

Don't know if masking helps though, as Xzyl points out.  Recognizing the same false signature should still be possible, assuming it is the same false signature every time.  Those are some really foggy rules...

As far as I can see it's not always the same, as you have a couple of options: look mundane, make your magic look higher or lower, or look like a different type of creature (although you have to be able to astrally project to look like a spirit or astrally active creature, which adepts cannot).

So it comes down to me knowing if you can do that (I don't think so), me knowing approximately where you are (yes) and finding whatever aura you're currently projecting stange at the location you're in (even a mundane homo sapiens in the ventilation shafts is going to make me wonder, but one wandering in the corridors is not) and me having seen the false aura you're now using before (I have assensed everybody at least once).

So basically I can only see the false aura as I need more hits.  Now it's GM's call whether I connect the dots and link the false aura to LJ or not.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-19-11/2057:16>
@Chrona: So after an entire conversation, "not being caugth" is all Silk achieves? Not even a name? Or are we playing/rolling for that result later at the end of dinner?

He matched your successes exactly, he seems to be sticking to impersonal small talk
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-19-11/2059:46>


Mag 5 +5 Int + 1 initiate (11d6.hits(5)=3) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3270403/)  E'yup.  Forgot it's mag 6 now, not that it makes a diff. 

Don't know if masking helps though, as Xzyl points out.  Recognizing the same false signature should still be possible, assuming it is the same false signature every time.  Those are some really foggy rules...

As far as I can see it's not always the same, as you have a couple of options: look mundane, make your magic look higher or lower, or look like a different type of creature (although you have to be able to astrally project to look like a spirit or astrally active creature, which adepts cannot).

So it comes down to me knowing if you can do that (I don't think so), me knowing approximately where you are (yes) and finding whatever aura you're currently projecting stange at the location you're in (even a mundane homo sapiens in the ventilation shafts is going to make me wonder, but one wandering in the corridors is not) and me having seen the false aura you're now using before (I have assensed everybody at least once).

So basically I can only see the false aura as I need more hits.  Now it's GM's call whether I connect the dots and link the false aura to LJ or not.
[/quote]

You can follow the false aura, its up to kontact where lj went
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <11-20-11/0231:07>
Went to the stairs and started climbing.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-20-11/0714:21>
Went to the stairs and started climbing.

While I can track that aura, it's not particullar enough to be sure it's LJ (there's more people using stairs).  I'll have to do it the old fashioned way then.  I can use it insofar as that it's an aura on its own and I can disregard all auras that are in groups.  I'll post something later today.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-20-11/1143:50>
Quote
"If you agree, look around and give me a position of a person:
*rich but stupid, so he has a fine commlink but no idea of real matrix security
*concentrated on the food or his partner, e.g. a much too younger 'wife' with a far too short dress
*optional: a little bit drunk

Feed is from Silk's cybereyes looking around the room for a possible target. Lazarus or I need to roll something?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-20-11/1332:57>
I assume that it would be a judging or etiquette roll. Which probably something more for Silk.

Quote from: For the hacking, I have the following plan:
-Space use the second disposable commlink to hack into the decoy as an admin
-There he creates another hidden, admin account and after that he closes the connection.
-With some redirection actions and a new access ID, Space uses the new account to login directly on the decoy.
-First he deletes all data trails from his first exploit and also edit the time stamp, when the account was created to some hours ago.
-Next, Space opens some channels to different links in the restaurant, including Ojousan's. Without any exploit attempt.
-Finally, he hacks into Ojousan's link, makeing data search for paydata in generall, but inclueding The Bog.

Goal: It should look like a simple data theft from someone outside who has hacked into the decoy earlier to get a remote link into the restaurant with all the rich and important people.

-If Space isn't found by then, he hack into some less secure links and then hastly close all connections, as if he was found and has to run.

Does this sound okay, or can anyone think of something (problem or improvement), a hacker like Space would think about too?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <11-22-11/0144:12>
What do I need to roll to find LJ in the way I described?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <11-23-11/2046:41>
Chrona, I added some rolls ( since its lots of rolls I done them upfront)

I assume that it would be a judging or etiquette roll. Which probably something more for Silk.

Quote from: For the hacking, I have the following plan:
-Space use the second disposable commlink to hack into the decoy as an admin Scanning for the Decoy Commlink: 5 + 4 +7 + 6 Hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3275986/)
Hacking for AdminAccount into the Decoy Commlink: 2+5+4+7 Hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3275989/)
Matrix Perception on the Decoy Commlink: 6 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3275991/)
-There he creates another hidden, admin account and after that he closes the connection.
-With some redirection actions and a new access ID, Space uses the new account to login directly on the decoy.
Spoofing (redirection and spoof ID): 7+5 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3275993/)
-First he deletes all data trails from his first exploit and also edit the time stamp, when the account was created to some hours ago.
Edit the Timestemp: 3 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3275994/)
Edge: +3 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3275998/)
-Next, Space opens some channels to different links in the restaurant, including Ojousan's. Without any exploit attempt.
-Finally, he hacks into Ojousan's link, makeing data search for paydata in generall, but inclueding The Bog.
Hacking into Ojousan's Llnk with Edge: 10 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3276019/)
Hacking (second roll): 6 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3276020/)
Data Search for Paydata (+ The Bog): 4+6+8+9 Hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3276022/)


Goal: It should look like a simple data theft from someone outside who has hacked into the decoy earlier to get a remote link into the restaurant with all the rich and important people.

-If Space isn't found by then, he hack into some less secure links and then hastly close all connections, as if he was found and has to run.Random Hacking: 3+3+5+5+5+4 Hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3276024/)
Perception if someone found him: 1 hits (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3276026/)

Does this sound okay, or can anyone think of something (problem or improvement), a hacker like Space would think about too?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-26-11/0816:41>
Currently have 4 assignments, 2 projects and a 3500 to 6000 word essay to do. will post when able.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <11-26-11/0837:33>
Make the essay about 2070 society and technology?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <11-26-11/0956:13>
Nope 20th century only
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <12-02-11/1848:13>
Sorry, kind of late here, was just checking in.
"begins telling his female companion not to worry, his 'link has a security contract from the ISP."
That female companion being Silk or someone still sitting at the table?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <12-02-11/1926:52>
Sorry, kind of late here, was just checking in.
"begins telling his female companion not to worry, his 'link has a security contract from the ISP."
That female companion being Silk or someone still sitting at the table?
i understood other table the one with those too perfect features.  ;D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <12-03-11/0352:35>
Ah, yeah, sorry. Had some sleep, I get it now. Not even our table.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <12-03-11/0800:13>
Silk just continues chatting with the man. Don't think all that much time has passed since she got at his table...
Can I try rolling later for an interrogation check or something? The Con-check was to keep my cover... or also the only roll to get info from him?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-03-11/1303:13>
The porgrams and their options, Space is running right now:

5 slots, each with ergonomics
Stealth 6 with Optimized3 and Crashguard
Armor 5
Biofeedbackfilter 5
Analys 6 with Optimized3
and Exploit 6 with Optimized3 and Mute

5 slots without ergonomics
Scan 5
Attack 6 with Optimized3, Area and Targeting
Edit 5
Browse 6 with Optimized 3)
1 open slot


Chrona: Can Space use Area and Targeting with the same matrix attack? I don't think so, since Targeting exploits an icon specific weakness to increas the damage.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <12-03-11/1532:38>
Confused as to why Kitten would be following a child's aura when she's looking for the aura of a young dwarf woman.  She doesn't even know that LJ is awakened, much less that LJ is capable of masking.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-04-11/1709:47>
Confused as to why Kitten would be following a child's aura when she's looking for the aura of a young dwarf woman.  She doesn't even know that LJ is awakened, much less that LJ is capable of masking.

That was with normal vision, just fluff

Also can the stealth program be used for defence?

You can use area or target as you thought.

Silk can try interrogating with negotiate if you have a specific goal (bog info etc)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-04-11/1811:21>
Also can the stealth program be used for defence?

Quote from: MATRIX COMBAT SUMMARY (from the Corerule Book, page 232)
Attack:
    Persona: Cybercombat + attack program
    Agent, IC, sprite: Rating + attack program
Defense: Response + Stealth
    Full Defense: + Hacking (persona) or rating (agents, IC, sprites)
Damage boxes inflited: Attack program + net hits
Damage Resistance: 
 Attack: System + Armor, hits reduce damage
 Blackout/Black Hammer: Willpower + Biofeedback Filter, hits reduce damage
Based on the Unwired, the three Musketeer IC only hace tracker and 2xattack loaded into them and no other programs like Stealth or Armor

Quote from: Tracking (from Corerule Book, page 219f.
Make an Extended Computer + Track Test (10, 1 Initiative
Pass), applying modifiers from the Track Modifiers Table (p.
220). If the target performs a Redirect action (p. 224), add the
hits from this action to the threshold. If the target is running a
Stealth program, apply it as a dice pool modifier.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-05-11/0337:11>
No I mean the fact you're rolling stealth for defence
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-05-11/1131:36>
For defence, you roll Response and Stealth.

Rollplay-Argumentation: Stealth is a program to hide someones icon from other matrix units. Hence, it is harder to see and therefore hit him. For example by changing the port adress, making copies from oneself as decoys, appear as data files, etc. Response indicates how fast someone can find new hiddeouts/change the appearance. The other icon constantly looks for and finds the hacker, therefore the hacker then has to find a new hiddeout or change his appearance.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <12-05-11/1245:57>
Confused as to why Kitten would be following a child's aura when she's looking for the aura of a young dwarf woman.  She doesn't even know that LJ is awakened, much less that LJ is capable of masking.

That was with normal vision, just fluff

Anything on my assensing of those Japanese?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-05-11/1932:49>
Will post IC ASAP.
We now reach the time of final deadlines.

Also due to the monetary and housing problems I've mentioned briefly before, I'll have no internet access between the 18th and sometime in January >.< Sorry that the gme will be on hold again... it's gonna suck.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <12-05-11/2020:15>
For defence, you roll Response and Stealth.

Rollplay-Argumentation: Stealth is a program to hide someones icon from other matrix units. Hence, it is harder to see and therefore hit him. For example by changing the port adress, making copies from oneself as decoys, appear as data files, etc. Response indicates how fast someone can find new hiddeouts/change the appearance. The other icon constantly looks for and finds the hacker, therefore the hacker then has to find a new hiddeout or change his appearance.

You roll response + firewall for passive dodge or response + firewall + hacking if you go full dodge.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-05-11/2259:12>
Mea Culpa,

I didn't checked the errate. Kontact is right. That would be 10 dices instead of 11. Should I reroll the defences, Chrona?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <12-06-11/1231:08>
Will post IC ASAP.
We now reach the time of final deadlines.

Also due to the monetary and housing problems I've mentioned briefly before, I'll have no internet access between the 18th and sometime in January >.< Sorry that the gme will be on hold again... it's gonna suck.

Real Life, thou art a heartless bitch  >:(  :o
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-06-11/1307:09>
ill just knock the last dice off when i get to it
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <12-12-11/1141:30>
Around 15 minutes after that Andromeda's drone provides a Shadow BBS where talk is on the bog.
Most of it is rumours but one poster, Lendar223, swears he knows where it is, but isn't telling anyone.
missed this one

As far as i understand we could track him down using signature or IP right?
@Andromeda: I'm busy, you do the data search, plz.

@Space "On it."
Andromeda Quickly changes the subject of search of her agent to the photo and voice of the patron. then went on searching for LJ with her drone.
and here is no dice rolls  :-[
Changing that (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3298199/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-13-11/1830:08>
Okay stickingmy head in to get you're opinion on something. On saturdays I am in a local Burning Wheel campaign, I am the social character, a court lawyer who, along with a field nurse turned living saint, a mercenary whose secretly an elf a Knight and a Knight of the Hospitalia saved the King and became the 5 Barons of Ascalon.
But during the tournement I/we arranged the King is murdered, we're blamed and theres a Coup.
I got stabbed in the shoulder and a crossbow bolt to the gut, am currently healing.
While on the lamb with loyal refugees and allies we've run into an immortal necromancer who is willing to help if we stop the Hospitalia chopping his head off everytime it grows back.

My character Friedmann is pretty paranoid about all the open combat he ends up in despite being the politician (for those familiar with the system he's Blades B2 and Bows B3, everyone else including enemies are B5 to B8, one is G5 to G8.
We're about to talk to the hashashim, cross a county under revolt, start a civil war, attack the capital, take over the badguys county then beseige our own city.

My Character sees that as many possible deaths. The necromancer, Marcus, is offering to pull my heart out and make me immortal like him. but that would bring down the wrath of the religious PCs so I'm looking for something less obvious but that'd still offer some advantage/durability. The GM says he can work in any necromancy I can think of.

Do you guys have any ideas?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-13-11/1838:05>
Let him pull put the hearts of the religious team members too.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-13-11/1845:28>
I can't make the saint undead, we need her to summon angels.

The hospitalia would just immidiatly a. win against us as we try to fight him or b. killhimself after.or c. leave, find his heart and kill himself.

it needs to be specifically done to my character
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-13-11/1853:04>
1) Is every kind of necromany forbidden or only the take-heart-out-of-chest part?

2) Do you need a way to hidde the fact that your heart was taken out or do you look for alternatives to  take-heart-out-of-chest part?

3) Is it possible to replace some other body-parts? E.g. give you the arms of a troll, or a second paar of arms?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-13-11/1856:00>
1) Is every kind of necromany forbidden or only the take-heart-out-of-chest part? All of it

2) Do you need a way to hidde the fact that your heart was taken out or do you look for alternatives to  take-heart-out-of-chest part? Alternatives, the hospitalia is also a surgeon, he'll notice if I regen.

3) Is it possible to replace some other body-parts? E.g. give you the arms of a troll, or a second paar of arms? Knowing Marcus, yes if he has materials. but this is too obvious.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <12-13-11/1901:30>
Can't say I understand much of what you're talking about :p
From what I read though, I don't understand what you, as a diplomat, have to gain from necromancy.
Sure, immortality's pretty neat and all (Feel free to make Silk an immortal elf without her knowing it :p), but it doesn't really seem to offer much, if anything, for a diplomat.
Again, I don't know the setting so I could be completely wrong here, but choosing for the necromancy seems a pretty loud and obvious side to pick and could seriously complicate diplomacy in the future (I'm assuming the religous PC isn't the only person in the realm who dislikes necromancy).
And in return, you gain what? Staying power in combat? That's nice and all, but that's not really your thing, right?

Again: completely unfamiliar with the game, rules or setting, but it sounds like you're sacrificing friendship/alliance and something you're good at to become mediocre (at best) at something at something you don't even like...
Doesn't sound like much of a plan.

And I find the necro's appearance and offer of help and alliance suspiciously convenient, but that might just be all the Shadowrun influence seeping though.

PS: Don't want to be pushy and understand if you're busy and all, but is it me or has the game been put on pause? Or are you waiting for us to act?

Edit: Ninja'd as I'm writing this... Seems really inapplicable, feel free to ignore.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-13-11/1908:17>
Can't say I understand much of what you're talking about :p
From what I read though, I don't understand what you, as a diplomat, have to gain from necromancy.
Sure, immortality's pretty neat and all (Feel free to make Silk an immortal elf without her knowing it :p), but it doesn't really seem to offer much, if anything, for a diplomat.
Again, I don't know the setting so I could be completely wrong here, but choosing for the necromancy seems a pretty loud and obvious side to pick and could seriously complicate diplomacy in the future (I'm assuming the religous PC isn't the only person in the realm who dislikes necromancy).
And in return, you gain what? Staying power in combat? That's nice and all, but that's not really your thing, right?

Again: completely unfamiliar with the game, rules or setting, but it sounds like you're sacrificing friendship/alliance and something you're good at to become mediocre (at best) at something at something you don't even like...
Doesn't sound like much of a plan.

And I find the necro's appearance and offer of help and alliance suspiciously convenient, but that might just be all the Shadowrun influence seeping though.

PS: Don't want to be pushy and understand if you're busy and all, but is it me or has the game been put on pause? Or are you waiting for us to act?

Edit: Ninja'd as I'm writing this... Seems really inapplicable, feel free to ignore.

Games on hold I'm afraid, too much work, im just taking a break (its midnight)

There was more to the necromancers appearance, itd just have been superfluous to this.
Most/All religions hate necromancy and in a Crusades era-like setting religion is everywhere.
He wants the durability because people keep trying to kill him, theres been no avoiding any combat I've ended up in, in which i'm vastly out powered, so far he'd been lucky, but as I said in the last one he was badly, almost fatally wounded. He's getting paranoid and it's only getting more dangerous.

As for the rest this is why im seeing if you can think of anything hideable
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-13-11/1925:13>
How would anyone recongize that your character has no heart, as long as you don't run around naked...

Is it possible to a get a damage taker? I have read that in a fantasy novel once, your body is immortal because all the damage you take is relocated to a damage taker. In the book, it was a statue, somewhere in a hidden dungeon. Ever 10 years the character had to repair the statue with magic and gypsum or clay.
Disadvantage: If someone damage the statue, the damage is relocated to the character.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-13-11/1927:54>
Hm possibly, again it's stuff that makes me regen/unharmable thats a bit too obvious
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <12-13-11/1936:26>
And going from harmless diplomat to anything up the food chain, wont? I understood that you want to go from B2 to at least B5 over night? Otherwise, spent Karma, train sword fight and wear more Armor.

alternativ 1: always carry a bottle of fake blood with you. As diplomat, you should have acting-skills like: screaming-in-agony or begging-for-mercy.

alternativ 2: As a diplomat, convince other people (a mob of mindless minions, i.e. NPCs farmer and miners) to fight for (and specially infront of) you.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <12-13-11/1945:26>
If there's such a burning inquisition and fanatical religion groups our there, I'm not sure if you can keep it all hidden enough. Still sounds like a lot of people would frown on it and as  word would spread quickly about what you're done/become; closing a lot of (social/dilomatical/peaceful) doors and throwing you through more violent ones.

Okay, up until now you've been in a lot of hard and threatening fights, survived with some luck and gotten wounded... but how many more fights could you be thrown into again in the future, because of the necromancy, that perhaps could have been avoided if you hadn't taken the easy way out.
I understand he's getting paranoid, but how much more paranoid will he have to be when everyone has an actual legitimate reason to want him to burn because of what he's become?

That said, if you're set on going on with it... concealable necromancy?
If something which normally kills you suddenly leaves you alive and kicking, people are going to notice. A bone casing around the heart, lungs and/or organs so they're a lot harder to wound pr having them regenerate almost instantly could be well hidden, but it'll be noticed the second someone sticks a dagger in your back and you just turn around to see what happened there.

So I'm guessing things that help you avoid being wounded. Like SR's Improved Reflexes; vampires get more IP's too and are hyper fast in pretty much all vampire stories. Dodge quicker, attack faster; more damage out, less damage in, good all the way. Just keep yourself in check, never overdo it. If you're parrying and attacking with high speed and accuracy without taking it into extremes, you're just an extremely skilled fighter, "if I hadn't seen it for myself, I'd have said it was impossible!". but If you're dodging like the agents from The Matrix, it'll be obvious that you're not really human anymore.
How/why it works? Heightened senses on all fields, allowing you to feel the wind an enemies movement creates as he swings his sword, to hear the arrow swishing through the air, smell the enemy standing behind you... and a better muscular and nervous system I guess.

Hm, almost 2AM and out of whisky, time for bed.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-13-11/1950:40>
See so far theres been no chance for that.

I don't want be able to fight on par, just have more chance of surviving the next time someone tries to assassinate me or bursts into my room with 8 armed Knights.
I'm wearing armour and training (you don't improve skills through this games "karma", Artha.) but now we're travelling all the time theres no "downtime".
If there's such a burning inquisition and fanatical religion groups our there, I'm not sure if you can keep it all hidden enough. Still sounds like a lot of people would frown on it and as  word would spread quickly about what you're done/become; closing a lot of (social/dilomatical/peaceful) doors and throwing you through more violent ones.

Okay, up until now you've been in a lot of hard and threatening fights, survived with some luck and gotten wounded... but how many more fights could you be thrown into again in the future, because of the necromancy, that perhaps could have been avoided if you hadn't taken the easy way out.
I understand he's getting paranoid, but how much more paranoid will he have to be when everyone has an actual legitimate reason to want him to burn because of what he's become?

That said, if you're set on going on with it... concealable necromancy?
If something which normally kills you suddenly leaves you alive and kicking, people are going to notice. A bone casing around the heart, lungs and/or organs so they're a lot harder to wound pr having them regenerate almost instantly could be well hidden, but it'll be noticed the second someone sticks a dagger in your back and you just turn around to see what happened there.

So I'm guessing things that help you avoid being wounded. Like SR's Improved Reflexes; vampires get more IP's too and are hyper fast in pretty much all vampire stories. Dodge quicker, attack faster; more damage out, less damage in, good all the way. Just keep yourself in check, never overdo it. If you're parrying and attacking with high speed and accuracy without taking it into extremes, you're just an extremely skilled fighter, "if I hadn't seen it for myself, I'd have said it was impossible!". but If you're dodging like the agents from The Matrix, it'll be obvious that you're not really human anymore.
How/why it works? Heightened senses on all fields, allowing you to feel the wind an enemies movement creates as he swings his sword, to hear the arrow swishing through the air, smell the enemy standing behind you... and a better muscular and nervous system I guess.

Hm, almost 2AM and out of whisky, time for bed.

Atm they think I murdered a god-ordained King so it cant get much worse short term.

I like your reflexes idea though, very good.
thanks, goodnight.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <12-31-11/1815:04>
Happy New Year guys!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-01-12/0436:13>
Happy New Year guys!

Same from me.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <01-02-12/0339:23>
Happy New Year from Germany.

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-02-12/0957:38>
Joy to the world and all that stuff.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-06-12/0537:12>
I'm gonna get like, 5 hours sleep (im ill) then work on a post t wrap up the hotel section, it could go on or a while otherwise and im sure you're sick of it.

Anything you want done except "get out, alive, unfollowed and untracked" please specify, i'm losing track
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <01-07-12/0153:11>
Well, since all the paths seem to be blocked, out is the only option.  Wanted to kill a couple of the old man's security, but oh well.  Will have to find another time to attempt to take someone's head off with a playing card.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <01-07-12/0625:50>
Just for Space's ego, how well did he manage to deal with the Musketeer IC? :D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-07-12/2130:28>
Well, since all the paths seem to be blocked, out is the only option.  Wanted to kill a couple of the old man's security, but oh well.  Will have to find another time to attempt to take someone's head off with a playing card.

Sorry tiny psychopath, but.. well if you REALLY WANT TO i wont stop you, just post an i'll edit mine.

Just for Space's ego, how well did he manage to deal with the Musketeer IC? :D

Space was doing well, the tracker went down in a few attacks
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <01-08-12/0327:03>
Sorry tiny psychopath, but.. well if you REALLY WANT TO i wont stop you, just post an i'll edit mine.

Well, it was a toss up whether or not security finding a couple of headless corpses would be to our advantage.  Getting caught doing it would be very bad, but it could panic the target if there are headless corpses popping up in his hotel, and panic could work to our advantage.  Too many unknowns though.  Safer to just go to the Bog directly.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-08-12/0357:40>
Sorry tiny psychopath, but.. well if you REALLY WANT TO i wont stop you, just post an i'll edit mine.

Well, it was a toss up whether or not security finding a couple of headless corpses would be to our advantage.  Getting caught doing it would be very bad, but it could panic the target if there are headless corpses popping up in his hotel, and panic could work to our advantage.  Too many unknowns though.  Safer to just go to the Bog directly.

Heh heh, all right
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-09-12/0818:42>
@Lazarus
@Chrona
have you noticed you are writing in the IC, what should be OOC?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-09-12/0824:53>
For now, I've stopped caring. When I'm sure we're up and  running properly I'll keep things better organised
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-09-12/0828:34>
For now, I've stopped caring. When I'm sure we're up and  running properly I'll keep things better organised
yeah, but it's easy to just speak here and then make one big IC, then to Talk there and then clean it up later.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-09-12/0840:19>
details, details
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-09-12/1222:03>
to be honest I'm a bit confused as to where we are right now.  Are we still in the hotel, or did we already leave?  And if so, whereto?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-09-12/1313:08>
Habu is in the vicinity, but you would have to make sure noone follows before you can get in, the shin is ready to pick you up.
p.s. shin is the sedan, or did you go in the Rover?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-09-12/1837:05>
For simplicity, lets say you're all back in Habu
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-11-12/0252:00>
So we're back in action? Neat!
Lost two grandparents the past couple of days, so going to be slow for the remainder of the week dealing with family things, expect Silk alive and backstabbing next week.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-11-12/0314:24>
Lost two grandparents the past couple of days

Sorry to hear.
 :-\
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-11-12/0838:56>
What's that in IC about negotiating? Musta missed something, or are you talking about the spider? In which case, what's there to negotiate about?

Edit: Also, did Silk get the 5k from the wager?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-11-12/0911:49>
Yes you did.

"Negotiating" is for the matrix user that knows where the Bog is, which Space just tracked the meat location for
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-11-12/0914:10>
snip...
sorry but how did the search go on the man Silk was speaking to?
did the agent find some information?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-11-12/0917:26>
Damned, had a whole lot of shouting at LJ typed out before I decided to roll for composure and scored that ridiculous success. ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-11-12/0929:05>
Damned, had a whole lot of shouting at LJ typed out before I decided to roll for composure and scored that ridiculous success. ;)

Miraculous I'd call it.

snip...
sorry but how did the search go on the man Silk was speaking to?
did the agent find some information?

Whoops, thanks for reminding me.
After a long time it'll bring back a message saying it cant find anything on him from just his face atleast
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-12-12/0647:00>
About going to the location: I'm assuming we're all in Habu and driving there, right?

The board/chatroom/site this guy is in/on: What is it (about)?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-12-12/0649:47>
About going to the location: I'm assuming we're all in Habu and driving there, right?

The board/chatroom/site this guy is in/on: What is it (about)?
Shadow BBS
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-12-12/1233:22>
About going to the location: I'm assuming we're all in Habu and driving there, right?


Some may take the faster car if they wish
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <01-12-12/1702:25>
Little confused about the last post, does that mean, if I try another attempt to upgrade my account to admin status, the firewall+analyze will most likely see me?
Is there any way to reduce this risk, e.g.by making some stealth rolls before Space go further into the commlink?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-13-12/0131:02>
Little confused about the last post, does that mean, if I try another attempt to upgrade my account to admin status, the firewall+analyze will most likely see me?
Is there any way to reduce this risk, e.g.by making some stealth rolls before Space go further into the commlink?

You can try to get in by probing instead of hacking on the fly.  That way they only get one roll instead of one every time you have one.  Downside is that it will take longer as you roll only once per hour in full VR and you need system+firewall+6 (for admin) hits.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-13-12/0432:52>
Little confused about the last post, does that mean, if I try another attempt to upgrade my account to admin status, the firewall+analyze will most likely see me?
Is there any way to reduce this risk, e.g.by making some stealth rolls before Space go further into the commlink?
You can try to get in by probing instead of hacking on the fly.  That way they only get one roll instead of one every time you have one.  Downside is that it will take longer as you roll only once per hour in full VR and you need system+firewall+6 (for admin) hits.

What farothel said, only Technomancers can bolster their Stealth after the fact
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <01-15-12/0840:37>
We got a week to do the job.

Probe, baby, probe.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-15-12/1049:16>
For LJ's suggestion to split the group again: Trying to follow him does sound like a plan, but there's two problems:
IC: Do we have any actual reason to suspect he's involved with our target, the casino or the bog? Sure, he's a guy with a lot of resources and appears to like a wager; but other than that and some OOC feeling for narrative, what do we got on him?
OOC: We want to split the group again? IC Silk's quite alright with that, but OOC I'm not sure it's equally fun for everyone, some people having nothing to do but wait for some others to finish their thing.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <01-15-12/2203:17>
He's Japanese, staying at a hotel, and likes to wager so much he will bet with an upper-crust woman over the fate of her son. 
If he's not in town for this massive high-stakes gambling event, then I'd be very surprised.

It's probably better that we find our own way to the place though, and then use his connections and your prior acquaintance to gain entrance.



So, computer issues are back on.  Expect another absence.  Sorry all.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-17-12/0832:45>
15d6.hits(5) → [2,5,5,6,1,5,3,6,6,6,6,6,2,5,5] = (11) ...
Seriously?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-17-12/0849:04>
@Kour: Not sure if you ask the IC but know the answer already, but afaik a hacked backdoor is valid until the system reboots.

Personally, I don't think average people reboot their commlinks quite often (I know the only times the past year my cellphone wasn't on, was during a funeral and once when my battery died)... and battery life seems almost infinite in 2072 (improved tech and piezoelectric stuff in your clothes or whatever?). But well, technically, we can easily lose the trace.

Edit: something I missed earlier:
Quote from: Chrona
Around 15 minutes after that Andromeda's drone provides a Shadow BBS where talk is on the bog.
Most of it is rumours but one poster, Lendar223, swears he knows where it is, but isn't telling anyone.
What talk was there about the bog? Anything that at least hints -what- it is?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-17-12/0902:02>
Andromeda is new to hacking
And she is just making her own plans.
And I actually myself did not know. ;D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-17-12/0932:31>
Term started yesterday, I'll edit this with stuff when I get a chance.
What talk was there about the bog? Anything that at least hints -what- it is?

Theres a mix, some like you, asking what it is, some know but are too scared to say, some say they know but are taunting others with this fact. Lendar223 seems different somehow, like he's attracting attention purposefully
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <01-18-12/0544:04>
Theres a mix, some like you, asking what it is, some know but are too scared to say, some say they know but are taunting others with this fact. Lendar223 seems different somehow, like he's attracting attention purposefully

It's a TRAP!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-18-12/0550:22>
Theres a mix, some like you, asking what it is, some know but are too scared to say, some say they know but are taunting others with this fact. Lendar223 seems different somehow, like he's attracting attention purposefully

It's a TRAP!

Then we just need to find ourselves a bunch of Ewoks and everything will be fine.  8)  ;D  ::)
Oh wait, wrong movie.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-18-12/0550:56>
Theres a mix, some like you, asking what it is, some know but are too scared to say, some say they know but are taunting others with this fact. Lendar223 seems different somehow, like he's attracting attention purposefully

It's a TRAP!
might be, we will see i guess ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-18-12/0921:45>
could be we lost some players.
Grim has not been online since sept others still chacking
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-18-12/0942:43>
Grim I noticed a long time ago... Artighur has checked in, but hasn't posted... might be he got tired of waiting ;( Damnit, Hank was so much fun! ;(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-18-12/0956:53>
Grim I noticed a long time ago... Artighur has checked in, but hasn't posted... might be he got tired of waiting ;( Damnit, Hank was so much fun! ;(
Yap Hank was/is one of my favourites too
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <01-18-12/2045:08>
Still here, just waiting for something to do tbh :) Hank is quite specialized so I get to count my toes quite often :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-19-12/0159:41>
Grim I noticed a long time ago...
Only Grim, all others are still kicking here so we should be able to go on playing  ;D

so who is going where and doing what

2 options as of now, Japanese guy or Lenard223.

Andromeda is for going after the Lenard type, it might be a trap, but at least it would be connected with the Bog.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <01-19-12/0608:36>
Space works his way into Lenards223 link.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-19-12/0844:59>
Didn't we have more vehicles? I thought Andromeda had two at least, and Hank had one too, no?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-19-12/0959:10>
Didn't we have more vehicles? I thought Andromeda had two at least, and Hank had one too, no?
Yep, sorry forgot about the rover, but if Grim is out so id the Jackrabit of Noise.
And doubt Habu is made for shadowing, imaging a a big tractor with a trailer following you, it's more horror then spy movie is it not?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-19-12/1036:26>
That's why it'll work! Noone will suspect they're being shadowed by something so obvious! Brilliant! Muhahaha!
So yeah, there is other transportation...

Meanwhile, Silk's thoughts are going something like "They honestly trust LJ going after this guy, alone? Ugh!"
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-19-12/2152:27>
Assignments done so updates in the next few days.

VOTE: REPLACE GRIM OR STICK WITH WHO WE'VE GOT?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-20-12/0141:00>
Assignments done so updates in the next few days.

VOTE: REPLACE GRIM OR STICK WITH WHO WE'VE GOT?

depends on the post rate we are having, might be that i am pampered by games with a faster flow, but this game is on the slow side and that would mean that if we get a newb he would fast grow tired of not enough action, then as far i see we have not moved in events since well September, we are just about to close of the Hotel section and start a new one. and the recruitment and getting someone in will take time as well.

On the other hand, we all are quit specialised:
Andromeda - Technical stuff
Silk - being nice and cute
LJ - creepiness
Hank - Beating up ghouls
Kitten - being checked extra thoroughly by the Cops
Space - Coming up with the weird-funniest things in the matrix realm.

ok, maybe not the best examples but you get my drift right?  ;D
And we have no real combat specialist who could take a shot and still be able to fight at full force.
Hank might fill this role, but never seen his sheet so no comments on that.

k, now that's my insight, but ultimately the GM has to decide. so i abstain from the vote.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-20-12/0439:42>
It's your call Chrona.
Personally I don't think we really -need- it, all of us have got some fighting skills, right? (And isn't LJ a fighting character?)
But I'm sure you'll find plenty of candidates if you decide to ask for a new player.
Pace could be a problem.....
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-20-12/0556:49>
I'm with Xzy on this.  We're six people at the moment and we have some fighting ability.  And if we don't have enough, we'll just have to find a way to do things without long fights.  Besides, getting rid of drones and vehicles is for the techies  (space and andromeda) and everything else can be stunbolted into submission.
Problem solved, no?  8)

But again, it's your call Chrona.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <01-21-12/0324:11>
LJ is a stealth character.  After the surprise round is over, she can dodge pretty well, but can't soak much.

Grim's character wasn't much of a tank either though, iirc.

This is more of a finesse team than a brute squad.  That said, some Big Troll Muscle could be helpful for those times when we need someone to carry 4 unconscious characters out of a botched firefight.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-21-12/0426:11>
Quote
That said, some Big Troll Muscle could be helpful for those times when we need someone to carry 4 unconscious characters out of a botched firefight.
But that's where Hank comes in and starts being hilarious! ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-21-12/1230:10>
Methinks we're wasting time (RL, maybe IC too) being indecisive... I know thinking and planning is good and I'm all for it, but we're wasting so much time waiting for each other that the game slows down to a crawl.

Maybe we should speed it up instead of long IC conversations between our chars, we try doing it quicker here and use IC for the actual roleplaying part and summarizing?

What do you guys think? If I'm the only one feeling this way, I've no problem continuing the way we've been doing so far; just would hate to have more people lose interest in the game.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-21-12/1442:48>
Methinks we're wasting time (RL, maybe IC too) being indecisive... I know thinking and planning is good and I'm all for it, but we're wasting so much time waiting for each other that the game slows down to a crawl.

Maybe we should speed it up instead of long IC conversations between our chars, we try doing it quicker here and use IC for the actual roleplaying part and summarizing?

What do you guys think? If I'm the only one feeling this way, I've no problem continuing the way we've been doing so far; just would hate to have more people lose interest in the game.
i too do not want to make a 3rd IC post saying - "Let's go!"

And the shoe can arrive at the location or you can task a watcher to come with us and then recall him to show you where we are.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-22-12/0407:11>
Methinks we're wasting time (RL, maybe IC too) being indecisive... I know thinking and planning is good and I'm all for it, but we're wasting so much time waiting for each other that the game slows down to a crawl.

Maybe we should speed it up instead of long IC conversations between our chars, we try doing it quicker here and use IC for the actual roleplaying part and summarizing?

What do you guys think? If I'm the only one feeling this way, I've no problem continuing the way we've been doing so far; just would hate to have more people lose interest in the game.

It's one of those problems you have with PbP and PBEM formats.  Around a table you have these discussions for about ten minutes and then you move on, while online it takes a lot longer as you have to wait for other people who are sleeping at the time you're writing your reply.

Maybe as solution (it will still take some time, but hopefully a bit less): as soon as we're in the planning stage, each of us writes a plan in the OOC.  Or he just adds 'I like the plan of <<X>> but I would change this or that'.  Only 1 reply.  Then one person summerises the whole set and after that one more round or comments and 'I agree' and next we post something in the IC.  Everybody get's one reply in IC for his part of the plan (we can put that also in the summary) and off we go.  What do you guys think about it?

This won't help us for combat though, and that will also be very slow as there you have to wait for certain people when it's their iniative.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-23-12/0407:34>
Is the forum barely working for anyone else too? I couldn't get on here yesterday
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <01-23-12/0450:47>
Yeah, same problem. Spamming refresh until it works helps... though of course that just means the server gets more requests from me and kicks other people off. The server overload seems to be getting worse and worse.

Silk's "plan": Lendar seems the only actual lead right now, even though it's slightly suspicious. If he's baiting on the matrix though, showing up on his location in the flesh might spoil the surprise.
She also thinks the old Japanese guy is worth keeping an eye on, but tbh I don't get how LJ wants to achieve this and LJ's little stunt has her doubting LJ's professionalism; she'll want to manipulate anyone into joining/keeping an eye on her but if that doesn't work she won't push it.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <01-23-12/0510:20>
Andromeda is not really in tactical Planing, she just wants it to get done so she uses what she has to get the best advantages she can, meaning supporting anything the team does with logistics searches drones ect.

but as a player i am for going after Lenard an leaving a stakeout at the hotel.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-23-12/0753:05>
Is the forum barely working for anyone else too? I couldn't get on here yesterday

I have it from time to time.  I've posted a thread in forum business, but nothing much has come from it.  Maybe you can revitalise that one.

anyways, back to the game.  I could leave a spirit to watch the hotel, only I'll have to refresh this spirit every sunrise and sunset.  Or a watcher.  As long as we stay out of the hotel they can't really do anything about it, and I doubt mine will be the only spirit in Seattle.  I'll have a look tonight when I have all my books and also to see what spirits I can summon again in my tradition.

EDIT: a spirit of air would do nicely.  It has search (just like watchers) and concealment, so it can hide quite efficiently.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <01-24-12/1503:07>
Quote
That said, some Big Troll Muscle could be helpful for those times when we need someone to carry 4 unconscious characters out of a botched firefight.
But that's where Hank comes in and starts being hilarious! ;)

/cry

Poor Hank, all his edge forever reserved to impress Ladies :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-24-12/1548:46>
Ah okay, catching up now
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <01-25-12/0404:08>
You could leave a spirit and have it inform you every time a vehicle leaves, so that you could try to identify which might be the correct one.  Still wouldn't try tailing the guy.  Stakeouts are about discerning a pattern of behavior.

Only problem is that the spirit will be looking out for cars, or people, but probably won't know one car from another and won't know a vory from a soccer mom.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-25-12/0455:57>
You could leave a spirit and have it inform you every time a vehicle leaves, so that you could try to identify which might be the correct one.  Still wouldn't try tailing the guy.  Stakeouts are about discerning a pattern of behavior.

Only problem is that the spirit will be looking out for cars, or people, but probably won't know one car from another and won't know a vory from a soccer mom.

They are quite smart, you know.  They can be fooled, of course, but so can everybody.  They can distinguish cars if they're told to watch a particular one, they can.  As for people, I've assensed our Japanese friend, so that's no problem.  I can give that aura to the spirit and they look at that.  He doesn't even have to materialise for that.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <01-25-12/0620:45>
I was thinking about it more along the lines that spirits come from a completely alien world.  There's no reason it would have a concept of "limousine" or "Russian thug" in order to tell one astral shadow or unknown aura from another.  Besides, an unbound spirit would use up all its services to take a remote service, so it can't react to the situation if something unexpected happens.  Eyes on the scene are considerably more flexible. 

Still Lenard is more important, so going after that lead is the priority.  If you think that there's a bar full of dudes who need to get spiked in the face with white phosphorous grenades, it'd be better to take LJ along.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-25-12/1532:00>
I've just added a post where I asked to stop for a couple of minutes to do astral recon.  I hope that's ok.

Also, Chrona: if I need to roll something, let me know.  Wards, number of people and such should be pretty obvious, but getting a feel for the patrons maybe not.  I would like to know if there are any awakened and/or heavily cybered out there, so we have an idea of what we're getting into.

I'll complete the post as soon as I have the results, OK?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <01-25-12/2039:08>
Assensing  please
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <01-26-12/0145:28>
Assensing  please

intuition 5 + assensing 3 =8 (8d6.hits(5)=4, 8d6.hits(5)=3, 8d6.hits(5)=3, 8d6.hits(5)=1, 8d6.hits(5)=4) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3344578/)

I've made 5 rolls.  The first is just to look around, and I've taken 4 others if there's something special I would like to focus on.  Disregard those if they are not needed.  I've just put them to make the game move forward a bit.  If there is something special, you can take the next roll and see how much of it I can see (and with 4 hits on the first, I can probably see quite a bit in the general look-around).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <02-03-12/1310:26>
I assume that the conversation with Silk is taking place while I'm doing astral recon?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <02-03-12/1619:04>
I assume that the conversation with Silk is taking place while I'm doing astral recon?

yes
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <02-03-12/1819:27>
Then we're closeby already? She isn't going to talk about anything job related (gambling, bog) unless it seems that's the only way to keep the guy talking. Want to chat it all out?

Anyhow, testing the keyboard of my new ASUS Transformer Prime, totally loving it!
Touchscreen typing is as bad as I thought.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <02-03-12/1934:24>
type some more out in IC and gimme a suitable influence roll to keep him talking I'll summrise
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <02-18-12/1301:10>
Currently I'm waiting for the conversation that took place while I was astal to finish.  Then I can post again.  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <02-19-12/1800:07>
Awesome, glad to see you're still here Chrona! We're close (or even, at) the bar, right?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <02-19-12/1808:34>
Awesome, glad to see you're still here Chrona! We're close (or even, at) the bar, right?

Yup, sorry I just don't ant to post at times i wont be able to follow through. You're very near, a couple blocks
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <02-23-12/0733:40>
Quote
Silk messed a bit with her clothes during her chat, pulling up her skirt a bit and increasing the amount of cleavage it showed. The colors of her clothes changed from black as night to such a screaming combination of purple, orange, turquoise and lime green that it could eyes bleed and changed her hair into a swirly mess of constantly changing colors and patterns.

She decided to keep her gun hidden inside its concealed holster, figuring that the obvious display of the taser on her belt would be enough of a warning. Shooting someone in the face for grabbing a girls ass wasn't really something you did, so a gun was never much of a threat. The threshold for zapping someone with a taser however, was a lot lower and would only cause embrarassment for the victim and laughter from bystanders instead of alarm or aggression.
Her commlink in hidden mode, she followed Black Panther.

I think you're mixing up characters.  Mine here is Kitten (or Aisha), not panther.  That's where you are Rafa instead of Silk.  :)

I get them mixed up as well from time to time.  :-[
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <02-23-12/0920:36>
Ack, damnit. Will fix. Sorry.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <02-26-12/0248:46>
I'm not feeling well.  I'm going to the doctor in about an hour, but it might be that I have to go to the hospital for a couple of days (depending on the fact that I have what I think I have or not).  Anyway, it might be that I'm not online much in the coming days.  :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <02-26-12/0931:49>
Wow. Hope it'll be okay, get well soon.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <02-26-12/0959:40>
I'm not feeling well.  I'm going to the doctor in about an hour, but it might be that I have to go to the hospital for a couple of days (depending on the fact that I have what I think I have or not).  Anyway, it might be that I'm not online much in the coming days.  :(

Luckily it's not as bad as I thought, so no hospital necessary.  I will be less online though, still pretty tired.   :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <02-26-12/1501:55>
I'm not feeling well.  I'm going to the doctor in about an hour, but it might be that I have to go to the hospital for a couple of days (depending on the fact that I have what I think I have or not).  Anyway, it might be that I'm not online much in the coming days.  :(

Luckily it's not as bad as I thought, so no hospital necessary.  I will be less online though, still pretty tired.   :(

Look after yourself!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <02-27-12/0302:05>
This game doesn't seem to be going so fast that increased napping will throw a wrench in things.

So no worries, farothel.  Read and post when you can.  That's pretty much what all of us have been doing.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-11-12/0506:20>
(it's my birthday)


=P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <03-11-12/0814:13>
(it's my birthday)

=P

congrats.  Birthdays are good, the more you have, the better it is.  It's at least a lot better than the alternative.  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-11-12/1325:18>
Happy birthday!!!

Now, to celebrate I suggest posting something in IC :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-15-12/0830:50>
Any useful info from the UWB? Was hoping to get an idea of the layout of the room, his location in it and any possible weapons.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-18-12/1349:03>
Trying to hold myself from posting... thinking Hank should be first to act, no? Unless of course he just does what was planned in which case Silk should probably talk. Whatchall think?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <03-18-12/1405:52>
Trying to hold myself from posting... thinking Hank should be first to act, no? Unless of course he just does what was planned in which case Silk should probably talk. Whatchall think?

Same here actually.  Waiting as Hank went in first, so he should notice what happened first and can react first as well.  Even more for me as I'm behind Silk (although that difference is less pronounced).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-18-12/1748:13>
Trying to hold myself from posting... thinking Hank should be first to act, no? Unless of course he just does what was planned in which case Silk should probably talk. Whatchall think?
Abstain.
Me just waiting for something to shoot at :D
Lenard maybe?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <03-18-12/1835:33>
Space sitting in the car, so he can't shoot at all.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-20-12/1243:47>
If Silk's talking was too long and anyone wants to interrupt, tell me and I'll edit. She's kind of counting on a shock effect.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-20-12/1248:14>
I'm gonna be rolling his composure thats for sure
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <03-20-12/1850:30>
I'd love to see what happened in his head.

- Hum this used car is pretty cheap, wonder if it has cl.. " OMG RAGING DWARF TRYING TO KILL ME"

Yea, I hope the brief case was fully of money. That would be fun :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-20-12/1858:38>
I was laughing when I read your post Art, somehow I was picturing a dwarf running headfirst towards its target, missing its knees and ending up headbutting a briefcase.

I may have read too much R.A. Salvatore... short hot-tempered bearded guys with spiked helmets as main weapon come up in my mind whenever I picture any dwarf.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-28-12/1017:17>
Dying games make kitten sad. :(

(http://www.cartoon-cat.net/Kittens/plog-content/images/Katten/Kittens/Crying-kitten-4650.jpg)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-28-12/1041:17>
Final Year Deadlines, must. get. degree.

Will post when i can
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-28-12/1127:45>
Degrees are vastly overrated. Just last week I received 6 e-mails offering to sell me some for a very low mount of money.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <03-28-12/1153:58>
Xzy is right.  Besides, in the current economic climate: how many degrees do you need to say 'do you want fries with that'?  ;)

PS: Xzy, nice kitten picture.  Your own or stolen from the internet somewhere.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <04-04-12/1253:39>
Just and FYI, I'll be off on holiday from April 7th until April 15th, without internet access (It's difficult to get on a boat in the middle of the Red Sea).  I'll try to make a post before I leave.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-11-12/1020:06>
Think I need to clarify, the speech is what was said to noise, not by noise.
Grimwulf is back =D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <04-11-12/1021:51>
Think I need to clarify, the speech is what was said to noise, not by noise.
Grimwulf is back =D
cool :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <04-11-12/1036:37>
Awesome!
Silk was all upset and hurt :(
Will remove from IC.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <04-11-12/1423:24>
yah, back, several pages to read to get caught up tho, bear with me.

Sorry for the disappearing act btw... real life sucks.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <04-11-12/1443:47>
It doesn't suck all the time, it let you back in the game!
Have fun reading!

Also, Silk's mad at you.... muahahahaa!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <04-11-12/1629:06>
alright, caught up.  so it's been like... 4 hours maybe that has passed in the last 6 months of posting?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <04-11-12/1633:22>
alright, caught up.  so it's been like... 4 hours maybe that has passed in the last 6 months of posting?
Yep, that's what you call RL issues for a lot of us in many different time periods :D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <04-11-12/1828:06>
Small Clarification.

Habu is not at the bar, the Sedan is. Maybe the Rover too

Habu either circles around on the high ways or is at a truck-stop.

Only getting involved if there is no other chance, as this car is Andromeda's legal one, spoofing chip and morphing plates, but still very noticeable transportation way.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <04-12-12/1528:11>
SMOKIN'!
Perception 3, Int 4, Enhancement 3, Rain -2 (8d6.hits(5)=6) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3463608/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <04-12-12/1815:02>
SMOKIN'!
Perception 3, Int 4, Enhancement 3, Rain -2 (8d6.hits(5)=6) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3463608/)
some of us are just that lucky
 :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <04-15-12/0321:01>
OK, I'm back and I'll try to catch up and post something as quickly as possible.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <04-17-12/0039:54>
Sent a huge school project to my teacher tonight at 23.59, deadline was 24.00. I win :D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <04-24-12/1109:04>
Sent a huge school project to my teacher tonight at 23.59, deadline was 24.00. I win :D
Living on the edge!

So, Chrona, now you're so close to some fancy Rocket Scientist degree and all that, hope you haven't forgotten about us simple folk here :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-26-12/2102:49>
Actually rocket science is a module on a different degree HOLY SHIT I'M TYPING AN IC POST
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <04-27-12/0124:51>
Actually rocket science is a module on a different degree HOLY SHIT I'M TYPING AN IC POST

And I must have missed a conversation line somewhere, as I don't understand it.  :-[  Anyways, Kitten is with Silk and the gang, doing the assensing roll I should have done in the beginning.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-27-12/0316:24>
Edited to help, Noise is still chatting to the Vory debt collector.

Very nice assensing roll

Information Gained

• The general state of the subject’s health = Healthy.
• The subject’s general emotional state or impression = Agitated
• Whether the subject is mundane or Awakened. = Mundane
• The presence and location of cyberware implants. = Headware, not much.
• If you have seen the subject’s aura before, you may recognize it,
regardless of physical disguises or alterations.
• The presence and location of bioware implants and
betaware cyberimplants = something in his musculature and brain.
• The exact Essence of the subject. = 5.05 (subject to change if i missed something in my count but wont go lower that 4.5 definitely)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <04-27-12/0402:40>
Lazarus/Space still with us? What kind of drone are we talking about? I'm guessing spydrone?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-27-12/0417:08>
It's a good old MCT Fly-Spy but i'd need a valid knowledge roll
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <04-27-12/0504:30>
Yeah, Silk doesn't know that much about drones... but that doesn't stop her from seeing if it's as small as a bug or as big as a dog.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-27-12/0525:01>
Yup so feel free to run off the book description
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <04-27-12/1526:31>
Yup so feel free to run off the book description
Does rommy see it? or can Silk just point it out ?
Would love to shot it down with a sniper rifle :D
i know the -4 on that for size, but are there any other modifer?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <04-27-12/1959:17>
She attached an image.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-27-12/2054:21>
Yup so feel free to run off the book description
Does rommy see it? or can Silk just point it out ?
Would love to shot it down with a sniper rifle :D
i know the -4 on that for size, but are there any other modifer?

-2 for rain as well
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-01-12/1531:02>
Before I reply can you sling me some DVs Kouryuu
HK PSG Enforcer
7P AP-3

MODS:
Silencer                                 
Skinlink                                 
Smartgun System                                 
Personalized Grip                                 
Improved Range Finder                                 

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-01-12/1537:28>
And ammo?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-01-12/1548:32>
And ammo?
regular, no modifiers,
second clip is SNS, but drones are immune to Stun damage. so using regular :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-01-12/1609:03>
Oh look who it is
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-01-12/1623:55>
Oh look who it is
Do we roll INI?
has he spotted Andromeda and I think he suffered a brutal

I will shoot him now :)
SNS of course, and if that does not work then Regular rounds.
as a payback for last time ::)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-01-12/1626:03>
As payback for when he di noting wrong?

Roll INI twice, you're both surprised.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-01-12/1634:13>
Can we who are with our new 'contact' also act?  A stunbolt will quickly clear things up I think.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-01-12/1639:23>
As payback for when he di noting wrong?

Roll INI twice, you're both surprised.
Nothing wrong? No no, he escaped when we wanted only to have a chat, he attacked our team members in process and made us look weak, and,
most importantly, he scratched Silk's Gun!
Unforgivable! ::)

Quote
9d6.hits(5) = (1) and 9d6.hits(5) = (4) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3497879/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-01-12/1712:18>
Can we who are with our new 'contact' also act?  A stunbolt will quickly clear things up I think.

You don't know he's there
Kontact roll perception to see if you do, actively looking, -2 rain, -1 for distance, target 2

Nothing wrong? No no, he escaped when we wanted only to have a chat, he attacked our team members in process and made us look weak, and,
most importantly, he scratched Silk's Gun!
Unforgivable! ::)

Quote
9d6.hits(5) = (1) and 9d6.hits(5) = (4) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3497879/)

The gun wasn't scratched!

.....cripes how does suprise work again

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-01-12/1727:29>
.....cripes how does suprise work again
Surprise Tests

To resolve surprise situations, all participants must make an Initiative Test (Reaction + Intuition). Note the number of hits scored for each character—this is the threshold that other characters need to beat in order to act against them in the first Initiative Pass. Characters who have been alerted in some way receive a +3 dice pool modifier on this test.

At this point, the Combat Turn begins, and characters roll Initiative as normal. During the first Initiative Pass, however, characters are considered surprised by any other characters who scored more hits than they did on the surprise test. A character who is surprised may not directly act toward or react to characters who have surprised him — this includes friends as well as foes.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-01-12/1832:18>
Who's aware and who isn't?

If not of the hacker, then of the drone being destroyed.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-01-12/1906:37>
Everyone is aware the drone is destroyed except Lendar
Romy and the Hacker are both suprised
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-01-12/1924:13>
Everyone is aware the drone is destroyed except Lendar
Romy and the Hacker are both surprised
telling the team about him would be against the rules right?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-01-12/2015:54>
her com set on Receive only would also need resetting to do so

yes
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-01-12/2046:15>
her com set on Receive only would also need resetting to do so

yes
Resetting Com is a free action if done trough DNI and i can set in transmit only mode - the resetting itself is 1CT long

did I get it right?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-01-12/2322:32>
You mean hidden? yes, it'll take a CT as you said
Ill let people in the car post before i post again
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <05-02-12/1319:21>
oooo I wanted to be there when we next met him...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-02-12/1326:11>
oooo I wanted to be there when we next met him...

As I said under a spoiler tag, Assume you showed up just before Silk potted the drone.

Noise finally lights the cigarette.

"You don't seem to get that I not with Vory anymore."


Seems they don't let go easily =P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-02-12/1409:47>
Damned, timeline going to be a bit weird with Noise showing up... Guess it'll be a "let's talk about this later, more important work now" thing?

Silk (we) are aware of the hacker?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-02-12/1425:55>
oooo I wanted to be there when we next met him...

As I said under a spoiler tag, Assume you showed up just before Silk potted the drone.

Noise finally lights the cigarette.

"You don't seem to get that I not with Vory anymore."


Seems they don't let go easily =P
they can have the guy
 we need the arm only as far as i remember :D double payout  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <05-02-12/1550:36>
Well then, missed that. :D

Will toss up another/edit post.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-02-12/1615:58>
Damned, timeline going to be a bit weird with Noise showing up... Guess it'll be a "let's talk about this later, more important work now" thing?

Silk (we) are aware of the hacker?

Currently only Romy is.
Just caught:
Instinctively Kitten ducked behind the car when the bullets started flying.  She had been shot at too many times not to have this reaction.  Next was to look around for trouble, spotting the man falling out of a bin.  Normally people don't sit in bins and this one looks too well-dressed to be a hobo.


If Kitten was outside the car roll perception, not actively looking, -2 rain, -1 distracted. Target 2 otherwise you aren't aware of him. Noise can make the same roll
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-02-12/1628:12>
Damned, timeline going to be a bit weird with Noise showing up... Guess it'll be a "let's talk about this later, more important work now" thing?

Silk (we) are aware of the hacker?

Currently only Romy is.
Just caught:
Instinctively Kitten ducked behind the car when the bullets started flying.  She had been shot at too many times not to have this reaction.  Next was to look around for trouble, spotting the man falling out of a bin.  Normally people don't sit in bins and this one looks too well-dressed to be a hobo.


If Kitten was outside the car roll perception, not actively looking, -2 rain, -1 distracted. Target 2 otherwise you aren't aware of him

Given that I've said a couple of times that I would let Silk do the talking and that I was looking around, I assumed that I was aware of him.  I'll roll.

intuition 5 + perception 2 + visual 2 + vision enhancement 2 - 2 rain - 1 distraction =8 (8d6.hits(5)=2) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3499378/)

I see him, so I'll let my post stand (ducking behind cover).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-02-12/1649:12>
It was due to your attention moving to the drone
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-03-12/0624:41>
I'd forgotten how high his stats were.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-03-12/0730:39>
I'd forgotten how high his stats were.

As long as I keep seeing him, he can run as much as he wants.  ;D Of course, with all these trigger happy idio... I mean, team members, I probably won't have to do anything.  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-03-12/1002:17>
Damn it, make him speak English, I don't understand anything this guy says! :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-03-12/1051:28>
Silk only speaks business.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-03-12/1430:09>
Started typing my IC post 6 hours ago, still not finished... so damned busy at work and at home :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-03-12/1446:13>
Started typing my IC post 6 hours ago, still not finished... so damned busy at work and at home :(

No problem, take your time.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-03-12/1626:13>
We seem to be short a hacker... Could be problematic...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-03-12/1935:49>
Laz was online today, hopfully hes just busy
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-04-12/2143:53>
Hey can you describe the ally he is running down? how long is it, do i have visibility so on :)

If you allow me to rework Andromeda a bit then you could have a second hacker right there, but i think that would not be fair to the others :)
if we need there are active players around that would welcome the chance to play a game :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <05-05-12/0359:01>
O'm so sry everybody.  Have my hands full of work at the university. You would think, after a masterhesis thinks go a little bit slower :D

Since I never moved Space out of the car, technically he still sits there, correct?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-05-12/0534:00>
Hey can you describe the ally he is running down? how long is it, do i have visibility so on :)


He's all ready onto the street, it was a short alley and he fell out onto the pavement

Since I never moved Space out of the car, technically he still sits there, correct?
]

yup
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-05-12/0718:57>
Can  Andromeda's Car fit trough the alley?
And what do you say about voice-commanding drones?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-05-12/0735:26>
Can  Andromeda's Car fit trough the alley?
And what do you say about voice-commanding drones?

Why would you need it too? It'd be a tight squeeze.

I say AR is faster? (you've got active subscriptions with them so I'm pretty sure you're ok to command them with comp+command)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-05-12/0807:31>
Can  Andromeda's Car fit trough the alley?
And what do you say about voice-commanding drones?

Why would you need it too? It'd be a tight squeeze.

I say AR is faster? (you've got active subscriptions with them so I'm pretty sure you're ok to command them with comp+command)
Because
her com set on Receive only would also need resetting to do so

yes
Resetting Com is a free action if done trough DNI and i can set in transmit only mode - the resetting itself is 1CT long

did I get it right?
If it's hidden you still can find it, when you disable the outgoing signal then it's untraceable :)

it's a small trick the army used some time ago, hackers and subscriptions need two way communication upload and download, with only download active you cut their access off ::)
so resetting the com-link is on the plan,

 whats more important is the general vicinity, is there a possibility to cut cho off somewhere? is the alley cluttered with stuff so on...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-05-12/0810:37>
Like I said, he' not in the alleyway anymore as of PASS1, he's on the street.

I think verbal communication with drones doesn't exist then
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-05-12/0813:46>
If I may interrupt:
Voice commanding drones means you just have to tell it to do something and it'll do so as good as it can and more importantly, as far as it understands. It uses its own pilot rating (possibly together with autosofts) and is self-controlled.
AR will usually get better dicepools, but it also means you have to command everything it does with a complex action, even if it's only a simple action for the drone. Also means it does -nothing- but what you tell it to. (eg: If someone takes a swing at it with a hammer, it'll just stand and wait for the blow unless you use a complex action to tell it to dodge. A voice commanded drone will recognize the attack and try to dodge automatically.)
Main problem with voice command is the drones "dog brain". It's usually quite limited to the drone's immediate programming. A moving drone will understand "move over there" or "follow that person", it'll move around objects and find the most logical way, but if you ask it to do so quietly, it usually won't understand unless it's got Covert Ops autosoft. Same for attacking, while an autowelder drone could really hurt a person, it's unlikely to understand an order like "attack that guy", even if it has targeting software for its normal job, targeting people is something it's not programmed to. (And here, if you instead use Command in AR/VR, it will do so without problems.)
Drones with high Pilot software and/or Fuzzy Logic upgrade are a bit better at understanding things that aren't part of its normal programming.

Pretty sure that's how it works in the book... of course if Chrona rules otherwise (or if the drone has been programmed otherwise), feel free to ignore this.

EDIT: Page reference on SR4A pg 245
Three ways to control a drone:
1. Issue command (can be done verbally, drone will try to understand the order)
2. Remote Control (this is what the Command Program is for)
3. Jumping in (hyper realism dumpshock causing stuff)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-05-12/0854:09>
You're completely correct Xzy, on that note for a verbal command please roll It's Initiative, then pilot+ any relevant autosoft
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-05-12/1029:19>
I'll have to wait until everybody else has gone, as I'm last in the initiative sequence.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <05-06-12/0249:51>
Also means it does -nothing- but what you tell it to. (eg: If someone takes a swing at it with a hammer, it'll just stand and wait for the blow unless you use a complex action to tell it to dodge. A voice commanded drone will recognize the attack and try to dodge automatically.)

This is only true as regards full dodge.  Regular passive dodge is done with the AR controller's command pool alone, it serving the place of reaction, and is automatic.  Basically this is what you're paying for with that whole "take an action each CT to drive the vehicle or it goes out of control and crashes," business.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-07-12/1146:11>
and stares angrily at him as she gets back into her car.

Oh god.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <05-07-12/1218:01>
Had meant to post earlier, but a very busy last couple days kinda messed that up, so tossed a quick post in to move things along.


And really Chrona, what could go wrong with an upset person driving down the road in a /perfectly safe/ manner? :D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-07-12/1223:19>
After Noise, it's Kitten's turn.  Just a quick question: do I have line of sight to the guy if I look over the hood of the car?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-07-12/1233:55>
Yes
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-07-12/1306:00>
drop one target.

BTW: nechedd is 'sleep' in Egyptian.  Or at least as close to it as I managed to get following prononciation guides on the internet.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-07-12/1332:50>
You might want to double check your drain there:

1. it's rounded up so (9/2)-1P= 4P

2.
Quote from: Anniversary P.204
Direct Combat spells involve channeling mana directly into a
target as destructive and damaging energies rather than generating a
damaging effect. Affecting the target’s being on this fundamental level
with raw mana requires more focus and more power than producing
basic effects; as a result every net hit used to increase the damage value
of a Direct Combat spell also increases the Drain DV of the spell by +1.

So you're actually resisting 11P Drain if you want to do 16S
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-07-12/1548:20>
You might want to double check your drain there:

1. it's rounded up so (9/2)-1P= 4P

2.
Quote from: Anniversary P.204
Direct Combat spells involve channeling mana directly into a
target as destructive and damaging energies rather than generating a
damaging effect. Affecting the target’s being on this fundamental level
with raw mana requires more focus and more power than producing
basic effects; as a result every net hit used to increase the damage value
of a Direct Combat spell also increases the Drain DV of the spell by +1.

So you're actually resisting 11P Drain if you want to do 16S

On P203, section drain value, it says:
Drain is variable, based on the spell's Force /2 rounded down, and modified by drain modifiers appropriate to each spell.  So 3 is correct.

As for the rule you quote, it says on p204 in my Anniversary book (caps are my emphasis): ... as an OPTIONAL rule, every net hit applied also increases the drain DV of the spell by +1. 
So it's not standard like that, only if you choose to use this optional rule.  In that case I'll have to rethink the amount of net hits I'll use (as you don't have to use them all actually, this is stated in the same paragraph) and the spells I want to use.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-07-12/1600:11>
Oh whoops rounded down it is then.
 hrmmmm. I'm thinking spells will be too powerful otherwise though so I think I'll use the rule unless you guys are against it? Chrona could Force 16 Power Ball a building to dust otherwi- -.... maybe i won't use rule.

Keep your 16S Farothel ;P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-07-12/1613:31>
Oh whoops rounded down it is then.
 hrmmmm. I'm thinking spells will be too powerful otherwise though so I think I'll use the rule unless you guys are against it? Chrona could Force 16 Power Ball a building to dust otherwi- -.... maybe i won't use rule.

Keep your 16S Farothel ;P

Actually stunbolt is one of the few that are really overpowered that way.  The fact that I had 7 hits on 13 dice was also exceptional (almost double as what statistics should give me).  8)
For most other spells the drain value is higher.  Your powerball is F/2+3 for instance, so that would be 7P for a F9 powerball (and 11P for F16  :o ), which is quite a bit more, so that will keep things in check as well.

Anyways, you're the GM, so if you want to use that optional rule, go ahead.  I just have to adapt (and stunbolt is the only of my spells affected, as it's only direct damage spell I have as fireball is indirect).  ;)

And you still have to roll your resistance (willpower in this case).  It might get less than 16S (actually I hope it will, otherwise I might kill the guy if he got dumpshocked out of his drone).  :o  ::)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-07-12/1616:52>
Okay we'll use the rule to keep things in check. I'll wait for Romy's IP before I resolve it.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-07-12/1622:24>
Okay we'll use the rule to keep things in check. I'll wait for Romy's IP before I resolve it.

In that case I'll only use 2 net hits to go to 11S (as according to the same rule direct damage spells allow me to choose the amount of net hits I use after the resistance test), and I take 1P damage from the drain.  I had 4 hits on my drain test, and with 2 net hits I have to resist 5P drain, so one remains.  That's of course assuming I still have two net hits left after the resistance test.   :)
That should still drop him unconscious.  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <05-07-12/1624:52>
oooo, if he drops i just may run over him after all !
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-07-12/1628:54>
Okay we'll use the rule to keep things in check. I'll wait for Romy's IP before I resolve it.
That's of course assuming I still have two net hits left after the resistance test.   :)
Well "net hits" only exist after the resistance test, on 7 successes i'm sure you'll have two left
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-07-12/1833:07>
*grin*
Funny thing is, we have no actual reason whatsoever to really be after this guy, except that he managed to escape us the previous time.
Hah! Told you not cooperating is not an option!
Now to decide... sell that body full of 'ware to Tanamous, or get on the good side of a 'runner (and possible connections)? >:)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <05-08-12/0218:01>
Guy was pretty forthcoming with answers last time we saw him...
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-08-12/0241:05>
Okay we'll use the rule to keep things in check. I'll wait for Romy's IP before I resolve it.
Does Andromeda Is first to act in this IP?I  think LJ was first.
but will prep a post ASAP any way :)

He is running from us, last time, and he is running now, there is a hunter waking up in Romy :)

EDIT: just saw the IC, do not know how i missed that, most likely the lack of sleep is at fault.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-08-12/0651:06>
Okay we'll use the rule to keep things in check. I'll wait for Romy's IP before I resolve it.
Does Andromeda Is first to act in this IP?I  think LJ was first.
but will prep a post ASAP any way :)

He is running from us, last time, and he is running now, there is a hunter waking up in Romy :)

EDIT: just saw the IC, do not know how i missed that, most likely the lack of sleep is at fault.

I know the feeling.  I posted right after Noise, as I was next in the init row.  I forgot to check if the others had already posted.  So if someone else drops him, I'll retract my post with the stunbolt (probably replacing it with a heal spell).  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-08-12/0815:34>
Cho is perfectly amicable.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <05-08-12/1225:14>
Heh I love the fact that people were thinking Noise'd actually try and run down Cho with her car. #1 that'd scratch the paint as she drove it crappily into the wall. #2 she's not that great of a driver :P

Was most likely just gonna drive by and give him the finger (at most a quick spray n pray through the window)

But lets see how he handles this stun bolt :P
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-08-12/1422:19>
Heh I love the fact that people were thinking Noise'd actually try and run down Cho with her car. #1 that'd scratch the paint as she drove it crappily into the wall. #2 she's not that great of a driver :P

Was most likely just gonna drive by and give him the finger (at most a quick spray n pray through the window)

But lets see how he handles this stun bolt :P

You don't want the bonus points then?  ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-08-12/1433:51>
Driving over people while they're stunned only gives bonus points if they're in a hospital bed and rolled out of an ambulance you forced off the road.

Still... might help convincing the Ork Silk's talking to, seeing the Russian Redhead Assassin run over the Humanis guy that was watching him, "taking out the competition". Heh.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-08-12/1551:45>
WTF, he's still standing. :o
Luckily I have a third pass, as I still have my improved reflexes in my focus.  I'll do that again as soon as it's my turn, although probably at lower force (I'll wait for the others this time)   :-[
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-08-12/1627:48>
Willpower 5~
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-11-12/0632:20>
LJ.. Pretty sure he's dead.
I'll roll some more gymnastics, BOD 3, no armour and count it up when I get in from class... but yeah....
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <05-11-12/0705:23>
LJ.. Pretty sure he's dead.
I'll roll some more gymnastics, BOD 3, no armour and count it up when I get in from class... but yeah....
that's no fun!
pretty sure LJ would have stopped attacking, when he fell and did not got back up :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-11-12/0732:31>
Kind of what I was thinking also... if LJ wanted to kill, he would've tossed with the pointy side ;) Think his throws were just a "throw until he's down" kinda thing, just rolled all together to save time.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-11-12/0931:30>
Okay, I'll need a perception test from LJ to tell he went down after the first knife (his body will keep sliding)
(i read his post quickly yesterday before my exam, looking again now, you guys are right.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <05-13-12/0222:35>
I was assuming that the three passes would have been stretched out over all his actions.  If the only pass when there was a clear shot came as he was sliding then, just count the first two throws.  Anyway, I'll throw perception here. 
13d6.hits(5) → [4,4,3,6,2,5,2,1,3,4,4,3,2] = (2) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3516069/) assumes distraction, but since the idea was to knock the guy unconscious, it might make sense for it to be more of an actively looking situation.  If so, here's 5 more dice, +3 actively looking bonus and +2 to offset the distraction penalty. 5d6.hits(5) → [3,3,4,4,3] = (0) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3516070/)  Well. Herp that derp.  Maybe Jo really is just in a kill frenzy..  After all, it's been nearly a week game time since she's offed anyone.  Correction on the DV though.  I don't think the knives should get the +1 DV normal to knives if they're being stun tossed with missile mastery, so the DV should be 1 less.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-13-12/0848:52>
Maybe Jo really is just in a kill frenzy..  After all, it's been nearly a week game time since she's offed anyone. 

2 successes is enough to stop after the first throw puts him down, whether she's going for a kill is up to you Kontact, the most I will suggest is Composure(3) if you can't decide.
I'm putting it after the slide starts to avoid retcon slowing us up.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <05-13-12/1904:28>
Nah.  Jo doesn't kill just anyone, and she doesn't do it publicly if she can help it.  Throwing stopped after the first hit landed.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-14-12/1405:39>
Not going to interfere in anything with Silk for as long as her talk takes.
Please tell me when that is (or have your guy respond, I'll get the clue ;) )
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-15-12/1438:33>
I just realised you can't shoot spirits.

This only took 5 years.

No gamer I know outside this forum knew either or were secretly houseruling them not having ITNW.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-15-12/1516:18>
ITNW isn't real immunity, it means they have Hardened Armor equal to Force x 2.
Hardened Armor means that you MUST do damage greater than the armor value or the target takes no damage. Armor piercing or similar effects (such as Elemental damage halving armor values) count to get through the Hardened Armor.
So a Force 5 Spirit has 10 Hardened Armor, which means you have to do at least 11 damage for it to notice.
But this could, for example, be done with a Ruger Super Warhawk (6P, -2AP) if you make at least 3 net hits (9P damage > 10-2 Armor) or, even easier with a simple Stick'n'Shock round doing 5S(e)+1 from a net hit vs 10/2 Armor.

So you CAN shoot the bastards, just make sure to do enough of it at one time. Called Shot for extra damage help a lot if your weapon is too weak. And don't forget that extra Damage from bursts does NOT count towards armor piercing.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-15-12/1518:17>
Ah I see.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-15-12/1530:59>
Lendar is not happy
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-15-12/1538:22>
Does Tailored Pheromones bonus to Cha-related tests work on Composure test too?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-15-12/1541:55>
Nope
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-15-12/1608:42>
Lendar is not happy

I assume the other guy will not be happy either, as soon as he's concious again.  As long as that bouncer has had his curiosity attack for today and doesn't ask any further.  ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-15-12/1611:44>
I assume the other guy will not be happy either, as soon as he's concious again.  As long as that bouncer has had his curiosity attack for today and doesn't ask any further.  ;)

THATS what I forgot, thanks!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-15-12/1614:23>
IC edited
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-20-12/1227:24>
Quote
Anyone taking a closer look at Cho's tattoos can roll Syndicates or a relevant knowledge skill.

I only have mercenary units and gambling as applicable knowledge skills, but I doubt they are applicable enough.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-20-12/1412:54>
Silk mentioned the briefcase to the crew through commlink, not to Lendar/Tom's ears.
Unless this was meant as a confession that he was listening in on teamspeak.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-20-12/1419:36>
No he just wants you to be sure he's not pulling a gun out
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-20-12/1423:06>
Ah, k, he's opening the case to get something, not 'cuz silk mentioned it. My mistake.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <05-20-12/2343:12>
Here's a mafia knowledge check.
8d6.hits(5) → [2,3,6,2,1,3,5,1] = (2) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3527727/)  Best I can do.

By the way, farothel, since the medkit takes the place of your skill, you can heal 6 boxes of damage with a R6 medkit.  That would give the dude 2 boxes healed after the threshold.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-21-12/0202:45>

By the way, farothel, since the medkit takes the place of your skill, you can heal 6 boxes of damage with a R6 medkit.  That would give the dude 2 boxes healed after the threshold.

OK, I had forgotten about that, as it's been a while since I was the healer.  Anyways, the idea was to stabilize him and for that one box is enough.  Now we just have to shove him in the trunk of a car and take him somewhere quiet for an interogation.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <05-21-12/0306:53>
woo, little bit of a post storm there, sorry for the late post, just to be clear, that drive by happened right after Silk asked Noise to clear out.

didn't do any better than Kontact on the knowledge check
7d6.hits(5) → [1,5,2,4,5,3,3] = (2)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <05-21-12/0454:53>
"Tat's look Triad but he's no member I've seen." Tom shrugged, "If you got a hacker he can check mah chips are legit."

What do I have to roll to check those FakeSINs? Extended DataSearch for the SIN-Name to make sure the data exists in the matrix?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-21-12/0644:37>
Sorry, feel stupid for asking, but I can't really follow...
The casino is Yak only... so what's this about Horizon SINs to get in? Or are the SINS to get into the hotel/convention?

'bout the IC and having a doc slice the guy open: I could be wrong, but afaik compared to normal 'ware, deltaware is so well-integrated into a person's body that it's almost impossible to tap into without having a deltaware clinic, a level of technology way out of a street doc's league.

Silk briefing you in IC kind of was a question about what you guys want to do with Tom/Lendar by the way, not going to make this decision by myself. We waste him or blank his memory and find another way, or we trust him not to screw us... don't really see an alternative.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-21-12/1039:24>
Sorry about Tom being unclear, No other Syndicates are allowed in, Hoizon has negotiated access to the casino in echange for Yaks from around the country to stay at the Hotl you visited earlier. The casino is in the old apartment complex that you have the address for.

His deltaware is too integrated to sell on a street level, yes.

Space needs to run Analyze and Datasearch, you're just looking not to glitch.

LJ and Kitten don't get enough I'm afraid.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <05-21-12/1243:51>
DataSearch&Analyse 9 and 6 hits; No Glitches (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/3528171/)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-21-12/1350:31>
They're legit rating 5 SINS but will delete themselves after Sunday
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <05-21-12/2336:53>
Sorry, feel stupid for asking, but I can't really follow...
The casino is Yak only... so what's this about Horizon SINs to get in? Or are the SINS to get into the hotel/convention?

'bout the IC and having a doc slice the guy open: I could be wrong, but afaik compared to normal 'ware, deltaware is so well-integrated into a person's body that it's almost impossible to tap into without having a deltaware clinic, a level of technology way out of a street doc's league.

Silk briefing you in IC kind of was a question about what you guys want to do with Tom/Lendar by the way, not going to make this decision by myself. We waste him or blank his memory and find another way, or we trust him not to screw us... don't really see an alternative.

Deltaware also has no resale value since it can't be implanted 2nd hand. 
It's good for academics though, since it's SOTA.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-26-12/1007:09>
In this situation the command would a bit too obvious to him
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-26-12/1453:09>
k then...
changed my mind about doing something different, will say the same thing, just without magical aid. See if he can take a joke :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-31-12/1132:22>
Are we waiting on something specific?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <05-31-12/1154:03>
Actually, at the moment I'm waiting for my wife to give birth... not much time to post.
Aside from that, I'm waiting for other people to say or post anything. Kind of getting the feeling Silk is calling all the shots and stealing the spotlight here. Which is fine by me ( ;) ) if everyone else is fine with it... though if that's the case, I'd like people to say so. Just don't want to push people out of the game.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <05-31-12/1250:25>
Congratulations
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <05-31-12/1340:08>
Are we waiting on something specific?

I did the last post, so I'm waiting for other people to post.  ;)

As for Silk taking the lead, no problems with that.  As soon as we're going against something highly magical, Kitten might take more of a lead, but at the moment we're doing infiltrations and such, which others are better at.  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <06-02-12/0221:41>
Silk is the one with leadership ability.  ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-04-12/0300:03>
Beautiful baby girl :)

Back...ish. Will try to post something today. Sorry, no time, guests, kids, wife etc.
Anyhow, Silk's just gonna let him go... So you can go with that. Had some plans but they required some other stuff that didn't happen so °shrug*.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <06-04-12/0838:56>
Congrats!

Xzy, Kontact and farothel are accounted for, where are the rest of you?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <06-04-12/1301:02>
Grats Xzy.

As for me, just kinda waiting really. 

Uhm, I guess I can throw some filler in.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <06-04-12/1320:44>
We have: SINs to get into the Casion where the Bog will take place.
Do we have the location of the casion, as well as a time?

BTW, I moving right now, so I don't really have any internet in neither of the two appartments now. :/
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <06-04-12/1331:49>
you have the location, casino is 24/7, Bog is midnight till 6am
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <06-06-12/1340:16>
I'm there, checking the PbP Daily. Ready to act whenever it's needed, just that Hank would rather let Silk do the talking, it's safer !
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-06-12/1440:30>
Rofl. Silk taking command is safe?
Just you hope she doesn't find out that you've all put her in charge. <queue evil laughter>

Edit: What time is it ingame?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <06-06-12/1850:27>
lets call it 13:30
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Artighur on <06-07-12/0209:11>
Pictures Hank doing the talking. Forsees a TPK, after Hank punched Mr.J in the face. ... Yup much safer ! I'll stick to keeping you guys in one piece and the opposition in multiple and it will be fine !
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <06-08-12/0553:03>
Quote
Space start fill in the blanks:
Silk: Vice CHRO - Denver
Kitten: Security
Hank: Chief-Vice-Assistant-Manager of Logistic and Transport - Denver
Noise:  Vice-Groupsupervisor of Logistic
Space: Security Hacker for Logistic and Transport

Maybe put Kitten in magical security.  That way it's less of a problem when I suddenly start lobbing spells all over the place.  And I do show as magically active to anybody looking into the astral.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-08-12/0911:52>
And if we're splitting into 2 groups like Silk suggested, don't have 'em all come from Denver.
Have Silk & Kitten come from New York or DC or something and the second group from Denver.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <06-08-12/2149:28>
Sorry Xzy, I know you want Silk to be mad, but with so little game time actually passing since my disapearance, I'm not sure it's gonna work out.

I am certainly sorry however.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <06-08-12/2200:31>
hah
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-09-12/0320:30>
Silk mad?! Never!
Just glad you're back, need to get interaction started again somehow, no? ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <06-09-12/0921:19>
I thought the official fiction was that Noise was left at the Horizon hotel to wait and see if she could spot our target or any Vory surveillance.  That way Noise could live or die "off screen".  At least that's how I remembered it.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-09-12/0925:24>
@Kontact: Hey, had no intention of saying that LJ couldn't or shouldn't come. Simply meant to point out that an adult dwarf disguise would be better than the 4 y/o right now ;) Don't think they'll make a connection between the two.

And for the love of god, please tell me if I should talk about LJ as a he or a she!

'bout Noise: to be honest, that might be true... memory isn't all that... Silk will lay off Noise.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kontact on <06-11-12/2044:30>
LJ is always who LJ is pretending to be.  ;)

Do we have a plan yet?  The grand pubah Yak being there makes the whole place real sensitive.  A mob assassin being caught in the same building as that guy could start a war.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-20-12/0321:48>
So yeah, feel free to drop us at a scrapyard or something?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Larzarus on <06-20-12/0610:47>
Same here as in Rising Sin: Bad new for/from me. My fight with the local internet provider will take a little bit longer. Hence, I open my slot for a new character, or you could play Space as NPC.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <06-20-12/0840:42>
I was waiting for you guys to actually decide on a scrapyard, for example, The one Romy Knows.

I'm calling a rolecall just to be sure, also next Tuesday I move house, I won'tbe around till I set up internet at my new place but I'm planning to give you guys something to pass time with.

Same here as in Rising Sin: Bad new for/from me. My fight with the local internet provider will take a little bit longer. Hence, I open my slot for a new character, or you could play Space as NPC.

Noted
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <06-20-12/0906:17>
Same here as in Rising Sin: Bad new for/from me. My fight with the local internet provider will take a little bit longer. Hence, I open my slot for a new character, or you could play Space as NPC.
Sucks, sorry to hear that :( Good luck with your fight I suppose?

Silk doesn't know a thing about scrapyards, she was going with the idea that someone else probably would since it was suggested, probably Romy; which is convenient 'cuz she's the driver anyway :)
Hoping Kouryuu/Andromeda is still here though. Seems to log on every day but his PbP's been pretty quiet :(

I'm calling a rolecall just to be sure, also next Tuesday I move house, I won'tbe around till I set up internet at my new place but I'm planning to give you guys something to pass time with.
Gratz with the new place!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <06-20-12/1155:55>

Gratz with the new place!

Thanks, it's an Edwardian town house in Dover.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <06-20-12/1223:04>

Gratz with the new place!

Thanks, it's an Edwardian town house in Dover.

Cool, then you can wave at me when I come of the boat in July (visiting the site of the battle of Hastings) and in August again (to the Discworld Con in Birmingham).  Yep, going twice to the UK in the coming months.

Kitten doesn't know any scrapyards either.  Maybe she knows some in Cairo or Lagos, but that's of limited use right now, and even then, as mage you don't need a scrapyard all that often.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: GrimWulf on <06-21-12/2203:47>
Edwardian... sounds fancy.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <07-03-12/1220:28>
It falls a bit bad at the moment, but I will be out of touch from July 5th until July 9th.  Taking a long week-end in the UK with some friends.  We might have internet, but I doubt it, so don't count on many posts from me in this period.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <07-03-12/1806:46>
Chrona passed CanRay in time spent on the forum... that's freaky!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <07-09-12/1028:10>
I'm back, catching up right now.  will post today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <07-14-12/0712:20>
I'm not dead, it's just my crap dongle net connection at home in dover comes up as a bot on the forum so I can't post.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <07-14-12/0846:50>
Both a relief and bad news in the same post.
Hope you can find a way to fix it soon!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <07-15-12/2009:23>
Seeing if it's fixed

Hurrah! IC Post tomorrow to move to the scrap yard.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <07-16-12/0327:29>
Awesome! Never been so excited to get to in the middle of a bunch of junk!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <07-20-12/0749:56>
Awesome! Never been so excited to get to in the middle of a bunch of junk!

The scrap/Junkyard is all yours!!!

Kouryuu Loy 3 Con 5

@Chrona
Took me a while to dig out the first sheet for Andromeda to get the layout of Kouryuu, i think it was the blueprint though, as i remember sending a edited version to you trough mail, but it seems it's one of the things i have not saved myself :(

also if there are some questions just ask.

Also we have to get clear if you have got the first Xls or the second i remember sending you both after you suggested to invest a bit more into the matrix side :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <07-20-12/1343:48>
I have no idea, best mail them again tarkara@gmail.com
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <07-21-12/0505:08>
I've added some watchers.  In case there's too many spirits flying over and through the junkyard, I'll adapt the post to have them also watch for spirits, otherwise I'll get contineous alarms.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-02-12/0648:28>
We waiting for some one?  ???
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-02-12/0810:00>
Silk will miss Hank :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <08-02-12/0827:42>
Silk will miss Hank :(
As far I know Larz is AWOL as well, so no Space as well.
Romy is a BS hacker, so i think we might be stalling for a while.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-02-12/2204:17>
I had a replacement player lined up but they're AWOL too
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-03-12/0209:38>
I'm still here, patrolling on the outside, waiting for something to happen there, although Chrona, it doesn't have to  :)  Kitten has been through enough to appreciate boredom.  :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-03-12/0319:14>
You're all leaving Silk alone in a container with deltawareman?! You evil, evil people!

Oh yeah: Chrona, she's turning off (or at least killing the wireless) of everything she's got with her.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-03-12/0745:18>
You're all leaving Silk alone in a container with deltawareman?! You evil, evil people!

Oh yeah: Chrona, she's turning off (or at least killing the wireless) of everything she's got with her.

Then you can use your feminine wiles to 'coax' the information out of him without people looking and recording for later 'private' use  ;D

If necessary Kitten can play the part of the tough mercenary, but I was under the impression some of the others would be going with you.  I didn't know everybody went MIA.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-14-12/0144:19>
heads up: I will be off next week from the 23rd to the 28th for the bi-annual Discworld convention.  While there is internet in the hotel, I won't have the time to check (In fact, some days it will even be difficult to eat  :( )
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <08-15-12/1526:16>
Im getting internet hooked up on saturday =D

Still cant find a job though D=
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <08-15-12/1607:06>
YAY for the internet!

As a player: YAY for the jobless thing too, means you'll have lotsa time to give us games!
As a non-geeky-almost-normal-person: Don't worry, you'll find something cool soon enough! Will be a lot easier with internet!
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <08-22-12/1407:45>
I'll be out from tomorrow until next Tuesday without internet access (I can have access, but I won't have time for it).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-21-13/1342:27>
So i disappeared, again, as is a frequent problem with me and this game. I found a job but lost all opportunities to role play IRL anymore, which makes running a game on this forum really difficult, I wanted to carry on the messy Biz story but it just stopped being a main interest and slowly but surely I stopped going on the forum at all. Though you were all great players I found it difficult GMing for people I didn't properly know.
Consider this an apology to my players for the fickle nature I've treated this campaign with.

I don't think there's much point trying to salvage the campaign from the dusty shelf I've left it on and I don't have any other campaign ideas. I'd like to restart it but I'm sure that'd be unappealing to anyone who has played in it before or read the IC. I've been asking my friends IRL if they would like to join, as I was when we lost a few players before my absence, but just as with RPing IRL the majority don't have the time or interest to join.


If none of what I just said makes sense, I apologize a second time  :P.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-21-13/1351:08>
So i disappeared, again, as is a frequent problem with me and this game. I found a job but lost all opportunities to role play IRL anymore, which makes running a game on this forum really difficult, I wanted to carry on the messy Biz story but it just stopped being a main interest and slowly but surely I stopped going on the forum at all. Though you were all great players I found it difficult GMing for people I didn't properly know.
Consider this an apology to my players for the fickle nature I've treated this campaign with.

I don't think there's much point trying to salvage the campaign from the dusty shelf I've left it on and I don't have any other campaign ideas. I'd like to restart it but I'm sure that'd be unappealing to anyone who has played in it before or read the IC. I've been asking my friends IRL if they would like to join, as I was when we lost a few players before my absence, but just as with RPing IRL the majority don't have the time or interest to join.

Andromeda is ready to roll again. :) this story ark seemed a lot of fun so i am still game for keeping it going or restarting.


If none of what I just said makes sense, I apologize a second time  :P.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-21-13/1536:53>
*shrug*
Life happens, we all have to deal with it one time or the other.
Though, to be honest, I wouldn't have minded a "Sorry, RL is happening, stopping game, bye".

Anyhow, if you're serious about coming back, I'll gladly play.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-21-13/1836:30>
That's pretty much why i'm apologizing, it was less real life and more just me.

Anyway I'm glad you two are in, I have one other player lined up (A Combat Medic if Hank isn't still around, otherwise their character is pretty flexible to change into something else) and just got inspiration for a new NPC and possibly a new mission to occur before you guys hit the club (Yes that mysterious job you never had to do).

Restarting is a go.
EDIT
Just acquired a Street Sam player. but they need to stat up. Are you Two able to send me your original Character sheets (0 karma 0 rewards) from back when we started? I had my computer die a few months back and they went with it.
For reference, starting stats were 400BP char gen + 31 Karma+ 7000 nuyen You must take a 3/1 fixer (Creepy Joe) minimum if you're metahuman.
Attributes are New x 3 in Karma
Any books but spy games or beyond (Though way of the adept is allowed), avail 12 (unless you take restricted gear).

I've been out of the game for a while and Don't have any recent books. If I get a rule or something else wrong, feel free to tell me straight away.

Oh great, my old internet provider discontinued the email address I had on DrivethruRPG so i can't reset my password or get any of the PDFs i own.

Luckily DTRPG's customer service is as strong as ever and have now merged the account with my new one.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-21-13/2333:06>
Any chance you're looking for a fifth player?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-21-13/2340:29>
I'm going to give it a couple more days incase one of my old group logs back on and wants their spot back, if not, sure.

As an added note to everyone: If no one else from the old group comes back I'm sticking with 5 as my Max player count, otherwise it will be 4 + however many come back.
If everyone comes back I...I dont know... @____@

Feel free to PM me with any character ideas in the meantime Padawan.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-22-13/0218:45>
Farothel is still around and would likely join, but he's on vacation.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-22-13/0645:29>
I have preatty much remade her in a new better way, or will remake her a new if the rules have changed.

i hope i can finish this on the weekend, or you will have to wait until next weekend as i am busted RL with work.

also i think you have a rough look at her in the PM inbox from me.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-22-13/0803:38>
You'd really reboot the game?
Seems like a waste of the time spent earlier (and PbP's cost far too much  time already) and you can't really do the surprise at the Club again...
But I'll go with it...

Did just sign up with Silk in another game (though if she'll actually get to be part of the 'runner team there remains to be seen).
Would prefer different characters in different games, but to be honest I'm not sure I can manage to build another one... And I was having lots of fun with her in this game.
Silk's sheet was on Google Docs (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-KjYh3uY7iDFOG86WUcAa5UMHR70sGvhvrekCVB4aQc/edit?authkey=CMe34LAH).
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-22-13/1233:52>
All right here's what i'll do, i'll continue the game as is but some plot elements may be changed or removed ad hoc to deal with the altered team, i'm also going to need to know Romy and Silk's Karma rewards(I all ready know Silks is 49, Thanks Xzy) thus far, ill use that as an average to give to the new players, i will save a 6th slot for farothel to return as our mage.

Padawan and Ren, you have both raised interest but i only have one slot left, Ren all ready has some characters ready to go, Padawan, please present yours. May the best runner win~


I won't restart but I will be running a Prequal mission first, don't think of it as a retcon, it's just to get the current team running together in the past to ease transition, and add a new plot element I wanted.
Likely this will start before farothel's return, which will help keep not knowing her canon.
Then we will return, in media res to an updated version of Chapter 2, still on the tail of that Gambling Cyber Hand.

Slot 1: Kouryuu playing Andromeda the Sniping Rigger.
Slot 2: Xzylvador playing Silk the smooth but social network addicted Face.
Slot 3: Punch playing Cookie the emotionless Combat Medic.
Slot 4: electricblue109 is currently making a Street Sam.
Slot 5: Padawan or Ren.
Slot 6: Reserved for previous player.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-22-13/1245:11>
FYI, Farothel's on vacation until the 28th. Knowing him and his activity on these boards, it probably won't be very long after that 'til he logs back on the boards.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Ren on <03-22-13/1343:55>
Just for fairness, if Padawan has a concept fitting into the group i won't contest it, he was faster. We also play together in two groups so i don't want any conflicts because of a third.
And for the others, i post here my three possible concepts:
- a fomori troll close-combat adept, on the run from the Philippines (SURGE I but nothing flashy)
- an ork military veteran with multiple cyberlimbs (courtesy to a well-placed mine)
- a haruman dwarf designer baby, with good athletic and infiltration abilities (good upbringing but circumstances made him a thief)

Just missing the final details from all three.

@Chrona: if you are not restarting, will the person joining have to familiarize himself with previous events or will the character be a new recruit in the team?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-22-13/1752:43>
FYI, Farothel's on vacation until the 28th. Knowing him and his activity on these boards, it probably won't be very long after that 'til he logs back on the boards.
slot 6 will remain his, if we're still prequaling that's what my plot crowbar here is for.

- a haruman dwarf designer baby, with good athletic and infiltration abilities (good upbringing but circumstances made him a thief)

Just missing the final details from all three.

@Chrona: if you are not restarting, will the person joining have to familiarize himself with previous events or will the character be a new recruit in the team?
the dwarf sounds best based on the team thus far. You wont need to catch up on previous events
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-23-13/1011:49>
I've been looking to try an elf techno who focuses on rigging. But I would want to ask how you view sprites controlling drones? There seems to be a lot of debate on the topic.

Sorry about the delay, I failed my perception check against RL and it snuck up on me ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-23-13/1321:00>
I would likely have it go the same way an agent controlling a drone would. I like to keep matrix stuff simple anyway because it can get really damn annoying
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-23-13/1407:44>
What method of character creation do you use?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-23-13/1449:01>
Any BP using way is fine just put it into fastjacks code after preferably with your points and nuyen spent clearly labeled
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-23-13/1604:18>
One other question. Are you opposed to a new stream being created? None of the ones in Unwired are quite the way I want to have the technomancer view the Matrix/his powers. (Going for someone who believes the Matrix connects all technomancers and sprites are "extensions" of the technomancer's mind. He generally talks in "we" or "us" (since he tends to have sprites pilot his drones if he isn't directly in one)) I could use Dronomancer if you prefer though, it comes close ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-23-13/1702:18>
I don't mind just let me know which sprites you have access to
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-23-13/2029:53>
Tiny Monkey Ninja or Technomancer with Drones may be the hardest decision ever.
The teams lacking in the stealth and the matrix departments, so what i'd like to do is when Ren and Padawan's character's are both ready, if they would post them here please and the entire team can help decide.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-23-13/2302:41>
I have my basic concept up in the character creation forum. Wanted to get some feedback before finalizing since it's my first crack at a technomancer.

My five Sprite types are: Machine, Tutor, Paladin, Crack, Fault.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Ren on <03-24-13/0729:59>
Here's the almost final version of Gibbon. I put the effects of spending the 31 karma and starting nujen and additional 7000 in square brackets.
== Info ==
Street Name: Gibbon
Name: Gideon Eugene Merrywether II
Movement: 12/30, Swim: 4
Karma: 0 [31, spent 25]
Street Cred: 0
Notoriety: 1
Public Awareness: 0
Dwarf (Haruman) male Age 24
Height 115 cm Weight 48 kg
Composure: 8
Judge Intentions: 8
Lift/Carry: 8 (60 kg/40 kg)
Memory: 8
Nuyen: 0

== Attributes ==
BOD: 4
AGI: 7 (9)
REA: 4 (5)
STR: 4
CHA: 3
INT: 5
LOG: 1 (3) [2 (4)]
WIL: 5
EDG: 2 [3]

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   2,02
Initiative:                9 (10)
IP:                        1 (2)
Matrix Initiative:         5
Matrix IP:                 1
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         11

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 4
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 4
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 8
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Artisan                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Automatics                 : 0                      Pool: 8
Blades                     : 1                      Pool: 10 [spec: knives]
Climbing                   : 1                      Pool: 9
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 8
Computer                   : 2                      Pool: 6
Con                        : 1                      Pool: 4 [spec: fast talk]
Cybercombat                : 0                      Pool: 3
Data Search                : 2                      Pool: 6
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 3
Disguise                   : 3                      Pool: 8
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 4
Dodge                      : 1                      Pool: 6
Escape Artist              : 1                      Pool: 11
Etiquette                  : 1                      Pool: 4 [spec: street]
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Flight                     : 1                      Pool: 9
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 8
Gunnery                    : 0                      Pool: 8
Gymnastics                 : 1                      Pool: 14
Hacking                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Hardware                   : 2                      Pool: 6
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 8
Industrial Mechanic        : 1                      Pool: 5
Infiltration               : 3                      Pool: 13
Instruction                : 0                      Pool: 2
Intimidation               : 0                      Pool: 2
Leadership                 : 1                      Pool: 4
Locksmith                  : 1                      Pool: 10
Longarms                   : 0                      Pool: 8
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 4
Negotiation                : 1                      Pool: 4 [spec: bargaining]
Palming                    : 3                      Pool: 13
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 4
Perception                 : 1                      Pool: 9
Pilot Ground Craft         : 0                      Pool: 4
Pilot Watercraft           : 0                      Pool: 4
Pistols                    : 3                      Pool: 12 [spec: semi-automatics]
Riding                     : 0                      Pool: 5
Running                    : 1                      Pool: 9
Shadowing                  : 3                      Pool: 8
Software                   : 2                      Pool: 6
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Swimming                   : 1                      Pool: 9
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 8
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Unarmed Combat             : 0                      Pool: 8

== Knowledge Skills ==
Business                   : 1                      Pool: 6
Economics                  : 1                      Pool: 6
English                    : N                      Pool: 0
Gangs                      : 4                      Pool: 10
Hindi-Urdu                 : 3                      Pool: 9
Smuggling Operations       : 2                      Pool: 8
Spanish                    : 4                      Pool: 10
Underworld                 : 3                      Pool: 9

== Contacts ==
fixer (3, 1)

== Qualities ==
Biosystem Overstress
Celerity
Combat Paralysis
Distinctive Style
Functional Tail (Prehensile)
Genetic Heritage
Low-Light Vision
Media Junkie (Mild)
Metagenetic Improvement (AGI)
Monkey Paws
Unusual Hair

== Lifestyles ==
Redmond hideout  1 months
   Comforts:      Squatter
   Entertainment: Squatter
   Necessities:   Low
   Neighborhood:  Low
   Security:      Low
   Qualities:     Hasty Exit [2LP]
                  Stocked Up [1LP]
                  Crash Pad [-1LP]
                  Loud Neighborhood [-1LP]
                  Poor Condition [-1LP]
Renton House  1 months
   Comforts:      Middle
   Entertainment: High
   Necessities:   High
   Neighborhood:  Middle
   Security:      High
   Qualities:     Perfect Roommate [2LP]

== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Attention Coprocessor Rating 3
Cerebral Booster Rating 2
Damper
Datajack
Dermal Sheath Rating 1
Enhanced Articulation
Enhanced Protein Exchange, PuSHeD
Enhanced Protein Exchange, Reakt
Flare Compensation
Genetic Optimization (AGI)
Mnemonic Enhancer Rating 1
Muscle Toner Rating 2
Olfactory Booster Rating 3
Synthacardium Rating 3
Wired Reflexes Rating 1

== Armor ==
Armor Jacket              8/6
   +AR Enhanced
   +Fire Resistance 6
   +YNT SoftWeave
Chameleon Suit            6/4
   +AR Enhanced
   +Fire Resistance 4
   +Thermal Damping 6
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit6/2
   +Biomonitor
   +Nonconductivity 6
   +YNT SoftWeave
SecureTech PPP Armor (Ensemble with Helmet)2/6
   +YNT SoftWeave

== Weapons ==
Ares Viper Slivergun
   +Concealable Holster
   +Smartgun System, Internal
   +Spare Clips
   +Spare Clips
   +Flashlight, Low-Light
   +Foregrip
   +Gas Vent 3
   +Improved Range Finder
   +Personalized Grip
   +Sound Suppressor
   Pool: 14   DV: 8P(f)   AP: +5   RC: 5
Ceramic Knife
   Pool: 10   DV: 3P   AP: -   RC: 0
Cougar Fineblade Knife, Long
   +Personalized Grip, Melee
   Pool: 11   DV: 4P   AP: -1   RC: 0
Knife
   Pool: 10   DV: 3P   AP: -   RC: 0
Knife
   Pool: 10   DV: 3P   AP: -   RC: 0
Monofilament Chainsaw Rating 2
   +DP Penalty
   Pool: -2   DV: 5P   AP: -2   RC: 0
Unarmed Attack
   Pool: 8   DV: 2S   AP: -   RC: 0

== Commlink ==
[Will buy a better commlink with software]
Meta Link (1, 1, 1, 2)
   +Vector Xim

== Gear ==
[Probably will buy some maglock opening devices after seeing what starting money will be.]
Ammo: Flechette Rounds (Heavy Pistols) x60
Autopicker Rating 6
Catalyst Stick
Earbuds Rating 3
   +Audio Enhancement Rating 3
   +Spatial Recognizer
Fake SIN (Paolo Escobar) Rating 4
   +Fake License (Warez permit) Rating 4
   +Fake License (Weapons permit) Rating 4
Glasscutter
Glasses Rating 4
   +Image Link
   +Vision Enhancement Rating 3
   +Vision Magnification
   +Smartlink
Grapple Gun
Holo Projector
Latex Face Mask
Miniwelder
Monofilament Chainsaw
Plastic Restraints x10
Scent-masking Cigarette x10
Security Tags x20
Stealth Rope (100 m)
Stealth Tags x20

== Description ==
With smaller frame than your usual dwarf, Gibbon is truly monkey-like. He has short, spiky hair, a big smile on his wide face, several piercings in his ears and nose, and a cheerful demeanor that can be both annoying and inspiring. He wears good-quality clothes that are easy to move in, his favourite colours seem to be dark grey and red. He always has a knife or two hidden on his person.

== Background ==
Gibbon was born in 2046 in Seattle and named Gideon Eugene Merrywether II. His father Gilford Brian Merrywether III was a respectable businessman in position at an A rated corporation who was often on the road to make agreements with prospective partners. He met her mother, Ajeeta Kaur Ghuman, lead engineer of a contracted corporation on one of those trips to India. The parents wanted to give every edge to their children so they turned to pre-birth gene therapy, trying to make the child faster and cleverer than others. Unfortunately, the brain mod backfired, causing setbacks in Gideon's mental development. When the parents tried to repair this with bioware, a procedural mistake weakened the child's immune system.

Gideon was interested in his mother's trade but had some problems with understanding details. He also started to study business and negotiation techniques to be able to follow his father in his steps. His main goal was to be an athlete in some team sport. He developed slowly and was still undecided on the future course (to much annoyance of his father) when suddenly, the second crash changed everything.

The whole family was in Bogota when the crash happened, the boy on some organized school trip, the parents at a convention. The following riots tore the convetion center apart, the parents died there. The school trip also went south, some gang stopped it and set it to fire after taking everything valuable. Gideon was lucky as he could squirm through a small opening , avoiding certain death. He was lost in an alien city however with no help. It took him a week to get back to the hotel where his parents had rooms and he almost died three times during that. Of course, with no ID, a week's dirt on him, the guards threw him out on the street.

After that, he had to resort to actions he deeply despised, stealing to survive. His agility and intuitions had him make it through all hardships and he slowly worked himself up, first working alone, then joining a gang, then as a freelance courier and thief again. He got used to the situation and liked the aspect of the "clumsy dwarf" (a common perception) showing everybody what he's made of.

Of course he never gave up the goal to go home. By the time he collected enough money and favors to arrange this, it was already 2071 and deep down he already was a shadowrunner. He is somewhat new to Seattle's shadow communitiy and he only knows the fixer who helped him back to the city.

== Concept ==
Thief and infiltrator


Edit: feedback please?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Punch on <03-24-13/1534:17>

Name: Harold Wesker (assumed name see background)
Alias: Cookie
Race: Human
Sex: Male
Nationality: Unknown, Caucasian origins
Concept: Amnesiac Combat Medic now with mojo
Lifestyle: Low x 1 month
Karma Spent: 30
Physical Description:
Lean, disheveled looking square jawed guy with auburn hair, his blue-grey eyes looks like he hasn't had enough sleep in a while, there is a
definite air of gloominess to him.The only really noteworthy thing about him is that he always wears a tan coloured lined coat that wears buttoned
up when not working with the collar turned up over the lower half of his face, his clothing tastes beyond this vary greatly.

Personality/background
Comes off as rather cold even more so when angry and has a very jaded world view alongside his own self loathing.
History wise? he mainly works for Piemaker in seattle, a nice little group that paid his debts off to Doc Wagon, after Doc Wagon fixed him up a few
years back, shame they couldn't fix his memory.
Regardless, the debt is now with piemaker. who in return, require that he pays them back by working for them (they just take a cut from his
"reward" money) or just paying what they want at the end of the month, he doesn't like the work but doing so does go towards paying off his debt to
them.This situation obviously makes Cookie unhappy, however most of the work he does for them is work that he choose to do, since even Piemaker
don't want to lose an investment oppurtunity.In order to break away from them he started hunting around and eventually got wind of a fixer looking
for runners for another gig, one which may get him enough nuyen to finally break the chains that Piemaker have on him.Sadly that's not his only
problem, in addition to Piemaker he's also got a sellout ex-collegue to worry about, who decided it was okay to sell him out to a blood mage, this
lovely gent is an illusion specialising mage who goes by the name of Padre who doesn't like people "bad mouthing" his good reputation, espicially
when he wants to maintain said reputation. Thankfully even Piemaker consider him a nuisance and so they've taken to making it more difficult for
him to find Cookie simply by erasing every single record they can find of Cookie within a 24 hour period, he still however manages to make himself
a nuisance, Cookie for his part may consider dealing with him eventually.Then maybe he can start focusing on putting himself back together and work
out who the hell he was before he woke up in a hospital bed, but it's not like he wasn't doing that already.....



Attributes

BodyAgilityReactionStrength
544(6)3
CharismaIntuitionLogicWillpower
2244
EdgeMagic/ResonanceEssenceInitiative
2566(8.)|1(3)IP

Positive Qualities
adept 5
erased(24 hour) 10
The warriors way 10
Negative Qualities
In debt(15,000¥) 15
amnesia 10
Flashbacks(uncommon) 5
Enemy (see contacts) 5

Active Skills
Biotech Skill Group3
assensing(aura reading)4(6)
automatics(SMG)6(8.)
blades(knives)4(6)
con(fast talk)2(4)
dodge1
gymnatics4
heavy weapons(grenade launchers)2(4)
infitration3
negotiation1
perception(visual)3(5)
unarmed combat(subdual combat)1(3)
Knowledge Skills
Area knowledge: seattle(Redmond)2(4)
Proffesion: Chef4
Chemistry(Pharmaceuticals)2(4)
Magical threats(BLood magic)2(4)
Profession: Military2
Parazoology3
Language Skills
EnglishN

Adept Powers
PowerCostNotes
Astral Perception1
Improved ability(cybertechnology) 1.25add rating to skill
Improved reflexes 21.875warriors way 25% discount
Iron will rating 30.75
Quick Draw0.375warriors way 25% discount
Rapid healing rating 20.5add rating to healing tests




Gear (61,785¥)

Weapons
Cougar Fineblade Knife, Long with Personalized Grip, Melee Rating 2 & Weapon Foci rating 2(bonded)21,000¥
Izom Aphrodite SMG + Concealable Holster,Sound Suppressor(accesory),Electronic Firing,Folding Stock,Gas Vent 3,Improved Range
Finder,Personalized Grip & Skinlink
3,525

Armor
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit + Nonconductivity 62,800
Lined Coat700
Chameleon suit 6/4+thermal dampening 29,000


Ammo
[tdMinigrenade: High Explosive x6270
6 x clips Regular Ammo (SMG,240rnds)510
[td 3 x clips Stick-n-Shock (SMG,120rnds)975



Commlinks + extras
Sony Emperor (res:2,fire: 1,sys: 1,sig: 3)+Vector Xim & skinLink(work commlink)950
Transys Avalon (res:4,fire: 3,sys: 4,sig: 4) +Novatech Navi & Skinlink6,550/td]
Earbuds Rating 3+Select Sound Filter Rating 3630
Subvocal Microphone 50

Software
Pro user suite600
encrypt rating 4400
Purge Rating 3150
Scan Rating 4400


ID
Fake SIN (Raoul Castus) Rating 4 - "work" ID, lists occupation as Chef4,000
Fake SIN (Harold Wesker) Rating 4 - home ID4,000


Misc
Goggles Rating 6+Image Link,Smartlink,Flare Compensation,Thermographic & Skinlink1,025
medkit rating 6600
Smart Pouch System, Combat Load Vest +Smart Pouch System, Ammunition Pouch x 6 (3 for SMG, 3 for g.launcher rounds).
450
Tool Kit (Doctors Bag)500


Contacts
ContactC/L
THAT fixer3/1
Piemaker - seattle division3/1 with group 2(membership:1,Matrix:1

Enemy
nameC/I
Padre3/2

====================================
Build Point totals: 400BP
BP spent on gear/lifestyle= 8
BP on weapon foci= 2
BP on active skills = 120
BP on skill groups= 30
stat BP = 200
special stat BP = 40
Contact BP = 10
negative qualities BP = 35
Positive qualities BP = 25
(TOTAL BP EXPENDED = 410-35+25)

free knowledge points = 18 of 18
free karma = 31
spent karma = 30
remaining karma = 1
=====================================
[/spoiler]
Hi, I'm new to doing PBP,  so please don't eat me, positive feedback is appreciated and it's nice to meet you all since I used to stalk the old game.
EDIT: ps. Can someone tell me what I've done wrong to get my character sheet looking like it does? I don't understand why I have 1.5 line spacing going on O_o
EDIT 2: added missing astral perception power,corrected my math and re-added a missing quality >_<
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-24-13/1549:23>
Not to worry, I just ate.
Line spacing probably went bad because of copy/paste from Word or something? Just edit the text and remove the unneeded line breaks. (Word by default hits enter twice when you just hit enter, to start a new paragraph. If you don't want the double-enter, hit shift+enter.)

So you're the new medic? Cool. We, uhm, kind of liked to make fun of our last one... you know that, right? :p
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-24-13/1610:10>
With a name like Cookie, he's asking for it.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-24-13/1622:01>
Oh, as for recommendations; I'd probably recommend Martial Arts if you're going to use melee combat.
Melee is really kind of lousy compared to using a gun, even in melee ranges*; but martial arts maneuvers like Two-Weapon Style (get a second ceramic knife, just to block with), Finishing Move, Sweep or some other fun ones can make it a bit more powerful and useful.

(*: Not saying you shouldn't do melee, I've got a melee combat char too and it's pretty damned fun to play. )
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Punch on <03-24-13/1701:09>
A good point, I am Intending martial arts to be the first thing I go after oddly enough, as I'm keeping blades as a fall back skill for now, alongside heavy weapons(grenade launcher) , all that combined with the quick draw power should keep him alive, until I get a glitch.

EDIT: Also thanks  for the info on the spacing, ended up manually fixing it anyway.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Ren on <03-24-13/1703:27>
@Punch: assensing seems kind of a waste if you don't have the astral sight adept power. Also being amnesiac you could take the amnesia NQ (of course the less serious version).

Edit: see that issue was solved. Now you have .25 power points left if you still want to take something.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-24-13/1715:06>
He's 0.1 of a power point off of affording it... should I allow this? hmmmmm~

This thread is close to autolocking so keep an eye on those posts and just edit if you can.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-24-13/1847:03>
Autolocking?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-24-13/2003:52>
My bad, i forgot the forum allows threads over 50 pages
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Punch on <03-24-13/2018:15>
I don't really care about the loss of the increased ability too much it was more of an extra anyway, as for the character sheet I double checked everything again and it's all in order now, apologies about the mistake with the power point math.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-24-13/2019:20>
I don't really care about the loss of the increased ability too much it was more of an extra anyway, as for the character sheet I double checked everything again and it's all in order now, apologies about the mistake with the power point math.
no problem, we'll leave it as is then
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-24-13/2033:11>
Without further delay, here is Legion, technomancer hacker/rigger who sees himself as a focus of a central intelligence shared between his sprites and drones.

Name: Unknown
Alias: Legion
Race: Human
Sex: Male
Nationality: UCAS
Lifestyle: Medium
Karma Spent: 29/31
Physical Description: 6'2", 175lbs, Legion has green eyes and blonde hair and has a thin, very weak, build.
Personality/background Legion had a fairly uneventful life until college. He attended MIT on an engineering scholarship for a short time, but was online during Crash 2.0. He was trapped there for a month, and when he woke up he found himself connected to the machines keeping him alive in a way he had never felt before, but when he tried to remember anything from before he woke up, he couldn't recall anything. He spent a lot of time connecting with drones and exploring his newfound powers, deciding that if he couldn't remmeber his past, it hadn't been too important. This bonding with sprites and drones led him to a Stream that believes the Matrix is a unifying presence that is slowly spreading to connect everything to each other, and that sprites are extensions of the technomancer's own mind and powers. He also needed a job, and with no history, had very few options and decided to become a runner. He tends to rely on his drones in the real world, but is a competent hacker on his own. This constant contact with sprites and drones has led him to see himself more as the central hub of a conciousness that spans multiple sprites and machines, and took up the running name "Legion" in a reference to a quote he saw, "My name is Legion, for we are many".

Attributes BP Spent = 180 Attributes/65 Resonance

BodyAgilityReactionStrength
3131
CharismaIntuitionLogicWillpower
5553
EdgeMagic/ResonanceEssenceInitiative
2668

Positive Qualities BP Spent = 20
Technomancer
Paragon - 01
Codeslinger - Compile Sprite
Negative Qualities BP Gained = 35
In Debt 25,000
Amnesia - Past

Active Skills BP Spent = 124
Computer Skill Group4
Compiling6
Decompiling1
Dodge3
Electronic Warfare1
Hacking4
Perception1
Pilot: Ground1
Registering4
Knowledge Skills ( [Logic + Intuition] x 3 (30) free points)
Alcohol4
Bars and Clubs5
Engineering5
Firearms4
News4
Language Skills
EnglishN
Japanese4
German4

Complex Forms BP Spent = 34
Analyze6
Command6
Disarm6
Exploit6
Stealth6
Tacsoft4

Gear (7935¥) BP Spent = 11
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit1600¥
SecureTech Forearm Guards200¥
SecureTech Vitals Protector200¥
SecureTech Shin Guards150¥
SecureTech Arm Casings175¥
Ballistic Mask130¥
Earbuds R3930¥
Audio Enhancement R3
Select Sound Filter R3
Flashlight25¥
Fake SIN R3 (Jasper Stone)3000¥
Glasses R3525¥
Vision Enhancement R3
Low Light Vision
Flare Compensation

Vehicles
Conestoga Vista
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
-315/259012041036,000¥
Mods: 2x Large Drone Rack, Basic Rigger Cocoon, Morphing License Plate, Spoof Chip.

2x MCT-Nissan Roto-drone
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
010/25100333269,700¥
Mods: Targeting R3 (SMG), Defense R3, 250 SMG Ammo(50 Loaded), Weapon Mount(Normal, Internal Fixed, Remote), Micro Microphone R6.
Sensor: Flare Compensation, Thermographic, Laser Range Finder, Ultrawideband Radar R4
Mount: FN P93 Praetor w/ Electronic Firing
Weapon:Stock, Gas-Vent 3, Flashlight, Electronic Firing
DP:6      DV:5P   SA/BF    Ammo:50(c)

2x Shiawase Kanmushi
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
12/1010300181,000¥

2x S-B Microskimmer
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
12/1010300181,000¥

Lockhead Optic-X
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
05/2075320262,700¥
Mods: Covert Ops R2
Sensor: Ultrawideband Radar R4, Motion Sensor, Camera R1, Microphone R1

2x Bust-a-Move
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
03/101021010850¥
Mods: Gecko Tips, Anti-Theft
Sensor: Motion Sensor, Microphone R1, Camera R1

2x MCT Fly-Spy
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
13/1515310262,000¥
Sensor: Laser Range Finder

2x Cyberspace Designs Dragonfly
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
13/1530311212R2,500¥

Build Point totals:  400

Submersion
Grade: 2 (29 Karma)
Echoes: Immersion (+1 when jumped-in), Widget Crafting
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-24-13/2036:50>
Without further delay, here is Legion, technomancer hacker/rigger who sees himself as a focus of a central intelligence shared between his sprites and drones.

Name: Unknown
Alias: Legion
Race: Human
Sex: Male
Nationality: UCAS
Lifestyle: Medium
Karma Spent: 29/31
Physical Description: 6'2", 175lbs, Legion has green eyes and blonde hair and has a thin, very weak, build.
Personality/background XXXXX

Attributes BP Spent = 180 Attributes/65 Resonance

BodyAgilityReactionStrength
3131
CharismaIntuitionLogicWillpower
5553
EdgeMagic/ResonanceEssenceInitiative
2668

Positive Qualities
Technomancer
Paragon - 01
Codeslinger - Compile Sprite
Negative Qualities
In Debt 25,000
Amnesia - Past

Active Skills BP Spent = 124
Computer Skill Group4
Compiling6
Decompiling1
Dodge3
Electronic Warfare1
Hacking4
Perception1
Pilot: Ground1
Registering4
Knowledge Skills ( [Logic + Intuition] x 3 (30) free points)
Alcohol4
Bars and Clubs5
Engineering5
Firearms4
News4
Language Skills
EnglishN
Japanese4
German4

Complex Forms
Analyze6
Command6
Disarm6
Exploit6
Stealth6
Tacsoft4

Gear (7935¥)
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit1600¥
SecureTech Forearm Guards200¥
SecureTech Vitals Protector200¥
SecureTech Shin Guards150¥
SecureTech Arm Casings175¥
Ballistic Mask130¥
Earbuds R3930¥
Audio Enhancement R3
Select Sound Filter R3
Flashlight25¥
Fake SIN R3 (Jasper Stone)3000¥
Glasses R3525¥
Vision Enhancement R3
Low Light Vision
Flare Compensation

Vehicles
Conestoga Vista
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
-315/259012041036,000¥

2x MCT-Nissan Roto-drone
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
010/25100333269,700¥

2x Shiawase Kanmushi
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
12/1010300181,000¥

2x S-B Microskimmer
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
12/1010300181,000¥

Lockhead Optic-X
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
05/2075320262,700¥

2x Bust-a-Move
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
03/101021010850¥

2x MCT Fly-Spy
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
13/1515310262,000¥

2x Cyberspace Designs Dragonfly
HandlingAccelSpeedPilotBodyArmorSensorAvailabilityCost
13/1530311212R2,500¥

Build Point totals:  400[/spoiler]

Seems quite overlapping with my rigger Andromeda, but on the other hand, this is a small army now :D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-24-13/2037:32>
Padawan, i'm not seeing any weapons?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-24-13/2048:10>
Sorry, I just wanted to get the base character up. Still need to add in the mods on the bus and drones(I'm mostly scared to mess up the tables haha). If you mean for him, he has a 0 in meatworld combat skills, so he doesn't have any physical weapons.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-24-13/2049:11>
Sorry, I just wanted to get the base character up. Still need to add in the mods on the bus and drones. If you mean for him, he has a 0 in meatworld combat skills, so he doesn't have any physical weapons.
That's fine i had meant the drones.
The Poll is up, but keep in mind that Padawan isn't done.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-24-13/2101:26>
Added in the mods/weapons, and added the basics of the drone's weapons. Will be adding different sensors with the bonus 7,000 nuyen.. Also, subtract one from whatever total I receive because I voted so I child keep an eye on the ballot ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Ren on <03-25-13/0403:42>
Dont worry just did the same  so we dont have to care about the math.  ;D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-25-13/1104:03>
Dont worry just did the same  so we dont have to care about the math.  ;D

That's because great minds think alike ;)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-25-13/1505:54>
I don't wanna vote! :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-25-13/1550:04>
Why's that Xyl?
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-25-13/1550:35>
I don't wanna vote! :(
both are great chars, i know, hard to decide on one.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Punch on <03-25-13/1638:06>
I can't make a choice either, keep going around in circles on which to vote for :/
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-25-13/1839:40>
There you have a new vote option
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-25-13/1919:31>
Maybe we should start campaigning Ren. I'll have to think up some campaign slogans.

"Join the Legion... We aren't French or Foreign!" (Not as funny as I'd hoped)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Ren on <03-26-13/0557:57>
Yeah, Gibbon certainly likes campaigns. People gather, cheer, wave flags... and take less care about their pockets  8)

But if i had to come up with some slogans i would probably have these:
"Let's do it guys, it will be fun!"
"I was there, didn't you see me? Of course you didn't."
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-27-13/0220:28>
Waiting on those votes and electricblue109s character
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Xzylvador on <03-27-13/0332:08>
Sorry Padawan, afraid I voted for Ren.
Nothing against you or your character, I really think it could've been fun.
Since EVIL GM made me choose, I picked the one with the least overlap with other characters.
'Meda can do the drone stuff but we need a replacement for Kontact's combat character.  :(
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-27-13/0417:00>
Sorry Padawan, afraid I voted for Ren.
Nothing against you or your character, I really think it could've been fun.
Since EVIL GM made me choose, I picked the one with the least overlap with other characters.
'Meda can do the drone stuff but we need a replacement for Kontact's combat character.  :(
Combat? Didn't you mean psycho and killing machine who had not all plates in his cupboard.
Yeah we definitly need one of those.

Do we have someone for hacking? Might have missed it if we do. Andromeda is only support hackee on her best day.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-27-13/1105:55>
You don't currently have a hacker.
Evil GM gave you an anonymous voting system to be nice. I'm saving the evil for in game

Also as previously mentioned electricblue109 said he was making a street Sam so that should be combaty
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-27-13/2043:08>
can whoever was vote number 6 PM me to clarify that you were allowed to take part, as I am unsure if it was actually electricblue109 who voted as he has not logged on since August 26, 2011, 11:19:04 PM.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Padawan on <03-27-13/2216:01>
Nothing to apologize for Xyl. That's why it was put to a vote so you guys could choose who you thought fit best :)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: farothel on <03-28-13/1040:07>
I'm back, but still dead tired (spending around 20 hours in a big sardine can at 30000 ft is not good for your sleeping rythms).  So I'm going to say now that I'm still interested, and as my character hasn't been there for long, I don't have any karma yet (at least, not that I can find back in my files).  I won't vote today, I first have to read up on everything in more detail before I do so.  I'll try to do so during the week-end.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-28-13/1115:17>
mageeee
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-28-13/1738:47>
I have confirmed someone else voted on the poll other than one of us, so consider it still being 2-1 to Ren
The last character will hopefully be in this weekend, he's having trouble with his account.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Punch on <03-28-13/1833:12>
I can certainly understand his pain on that one after going through something similar.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-28-13/1833:33>
Quote from: PM
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3489.msg63199#msg63199 - 10 karma
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3489.msg62864#msg62864 -  2 doberman drones loaded with AK's + 4850 Nuyen
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3489.msg62622#msg62622 - 5 karma + creepy joe and Bloodclaw as contacts
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3489.msg50647#msg50647 - uzi in Habus armoury
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3489.msg50416#msg50416 - 13karma
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3489.msg50320#msg50320 - 5 karma + creepy joe contact
http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=3489.msg61789#msg61789 - added the details on uzi and AK's
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-28-13/1930:58>
Andromeda - here (http://ftp://dl.dropbox.com/u/23169297/SR/2nd.Andromeda.chum) to download just left click and save as.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-28-13/1933:42>
As i dont have chummer thats a big load of code to me lol
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-28-13/1947:46>
As i dont have chummer thats a big load of code to me lol
give me a day or two in Easter time to rest up and you will have it in my first OOC post and in my character thread in Kot format :)

but for now

== Info ==
Street Name: Andromeda
Name: Ann
Movement: 10/25, Swim: 5
Karma: 33
Street Cred: 3
Notoriety: 0
Public Awareness: 1
Human Female Age 17
Height 174 cm Weight 68 kg
Composure: 4
Judge Intentions: 6
Lift/Carry: 5 (15 kg/10 kg)
Memory: 8
Nuyen: 4250

== Attributes ==
BOD: 4
AGI: 4
REA: 5
STR: 1
CHA: 1
INT: 5
LOG: 5
WIL: 3
EDG: 5

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   5,43
Initiative:                10
IP:                        1
Matrix Initiative:         10
Matrix IP:                 3
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         10

== Active Skills ==
Aeronautics Mechanic       : 4                      Pool: 9
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 4
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 4
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Artisan                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Automatics                 : 0                      Pool: 3
Automotive Mechanic        : 4                      Pool: 9
Blades                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 3
Computer                   : 4                      Pool: 9
Cybercombat                : 2                      Pool: 7
Data Search                : 4                      Pool: 9
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 4
Disguise                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 3
Dodge                      : 1                      Pool: 6
Electronic Warfare         : 2                      Pool: 7
Escape Artist              : 0                      Pool: 3
First Aid                  : 1                      Pool: 6
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Gunnery                    : 1                      Pool: 5
Gymnastics                 : 0                      Pool: 3
Hacking                    : 2                      Pool: 7
Hardware                   : 4                      Pool: 9
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 3
Industrial Mechanic        : 4                      Pool: 9
Infiltration               : 0                      Pool: 3
Locksmith                  : 0                      Pool: 3
Longarms                   : 5 [Sniper Rifles]      Pool: 9 (11)
Nautical Mechanic          : 4                      Pool: 9
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 4
Palming                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 3
Perception                 : 1                      Pool: 6
Pilot Aircraft             : 1                      Pool: 6
Pilot Ground Craft         : 5                      Pool: 10
Pilot Watercraft           : 0                      Pool: 4
Pistols                    : 0                      Pool: 3
Riding                     : 0                      Pool: 4
Shadowing                  : 0                      Pool: 4
Software                   : 4                      Pool: 9
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 2
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 3
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Unarmed Combat             : 0                      Pool: 3

== Knowledge Skills ==
Area Knowledge: Seattle    : 4                      Pool: 9
Automotive design          : 4                      Pool: 9
Data Havens                : 4                      Pool: 9
Engineering                : 6                      Pool: 11
English                    : N                      Pool: 0
Firearms                   : 4                      Pool: 9
Japanese                   : 4                      Pool: 9
Shadow Community           : 4                      Pool: 9

== Contacts ==
BloodClaw (Fixer) Chrona (3, 1)
Creepy Joe (3, 1)
Kouryuu Shigeru (Junkyard owner) (5, 3)

== Qualities ==
In Debt (20,000¥)
Restricted Gear (Rating 1)
SINner (Standard) (Ann Rockstone [UCAS])

== Lifestyles ==
High ("HABU")  1 months

== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Commlink
   +Simrig
   +Sim Module (Hot-Sim Modified)
   +Datajack
Cybereyes Basic System Rating 3
   +Eye Recording Unit
   +Image Link
   +Smartlink
   +Low-Light Vision
   +Vision Enhancement Rating 3
   +Vision Magnification
   +Protective Covers
   +Thermographic Vision

== Armor ==
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit6/2
SecureTech Helmet         0/2
SecureTech Shin Guards    0/1
Victory: Industrious Coverall5/4
   +Chemical Protection 2
   +Fire Resistance 2

== Weapons ==
Ares Predator IV
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 5   DV: 5P   AP: -1   RC: 0
Ares Predator IV
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 5   DV: 5P   AP: -1   RC: 0
HK PSG Enforcer
   +Bipod
   +Imaging Scope
   +Silencer
   +Spare Clips
   +Spare Clips
   +Personalized Grip
   +Skinlink
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 11 (13)   DV: 7P   AP: -3   RC: 3
Unarmed Attack
   Pool: 3   DV: 1S   AP: -   RC: 0
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Uzi IV
   +Stock
   +Laser Sight
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 6   DV: 5P   AP: -   RC: 1
Yamaha Pulsar
   +Concealable Holster
   +Spare Clips
   +Spare Clips
   +Spare Clips
   +Melee Hardening
   +Personalized Grip
   +Skinlink
   +Smartgun System
   Pool: 5   DV: 6S(e)   AP: -half   RC: 1

== Commlink ==
Custom Commlink (5, 5, 5, 5)
   +Suite: Pro User [Analyze 4, Browse 4, Command 2, Edit 4]
   +Biofeedback Filter Rating 6 [Copy Protection 6, Registration]
   +Encrypt Rating 6 [Copy Protection 6, Registration]
Meta Link (1, 1, 1, 2)
   +Vector Xim
   +Fake SIN (Kate Robertson) Rating 4 [Fake License 4 (Driver license)]

== Gear ==
Ammo: APDS (Submachine Guns) x21
Ammo: Gel Rounds (Sniper Rifles) x50
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Assault Rifles) x24
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Vehicle Weapons) x60
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Heavy Pistols)
Ammo: Regular Ammo (Submachine Guns) x936
Ammo: Stick-n-Shock (Sniper Rifles) x40
Ammo: Taser Dart (Tasers) x47
Laés Cigarette x10
Medkit Rating 6 x2
Spare Clip (Uzi IV) x38

== Vehicles ==
GM-Nissan Doberman (Medium) (""D1"")
   +Walker Mode
   +Weapon Mount (Normal, External, Turret, Remote)
   +Clearsight Rating 3
      +Copy Protection Rating 3
      +Registration
   +Medium Drone Sensor
   +Targeting (Self) Rating 3
      +Copy Protection Rating 3
      +Registration
GM-Nissan Doberman (Medium) (""D2"")
   +Walker Mode
   +Weapon Mount (Normal, External, Turret, Remote)
   +Clearsight Rating 3
      +Copy Protection Rating 3
      +Registration
   +Medium Drone Sensor
   +Targeting (Self) Rating 3
      +Copy Protection Rating 3
      +Registration
Hyundai Shin-Hyung (Sedan)
   +Anti-Theft
   +Manual Control Override, Drive-by-Wire
   +Morphing License Plate
   +Rigger Adaptation
   +Smuggling Compartment, Shielded
   +Spoof Chip
   +Vehicle Sensor
      +Ultrawideband Radar Rating 4
      +Camera Rating 3 [Flare Compensation, Thermographic, Vision Enhancement 3]
      +Camera Rating 2 [Low Light, Vision Magnification]
      +Microphone Rating 2 [Audio Enhancement 3, Select Sound Filter 3]
      +Radio Signal Scanner Rating 6
      +Radar Rating 6
MCT Hachiman (Medium)
   +Obsolescent
   +Weapon Mount (Reinforced, External, Turret, Remote)
   +Medium Drone Sensor
   +Targeting (Self) Rating 1
      +Copy Protection Rating 1
      +Registration
Nordkapp Zugmaschine with Trailer (Tractor Trailer)
   +Amenities, High
   +Anti-Theft
   +Gun Port
   +Improved Sensor Array
   +Manual Control Override, Drive-by-Wire
   +Morphing License Plate
   +Rigger Adaptation
   +Rigger Cocoon, Basic
   +Satellite Communication
   +Spoof Chip
   +Workshop Forge
   +Extra-Large Vehicle Sensor
      +Ultrawideband Radar Rating 4
      +Camera Rating 2 [Ultrasound, Vision Enhancement 3]
      +Atmosphere Sensor Rating 3
      +Microphone Rating 2 [Audio Enhancement 3, Select Sound Filter 3]
      +Radio Signal Scanner Rating 6
      +Camera Neutralizer Rating 6
      +Motion Sensor
      +Olfactory Sensor Rating 6
      +Thermometric
      +Barometric
      +Camera Rating 2 [Thermographic, Vision Magnification]
      +Geiger Counter
      +Radar Rating 6

== Karma Expenses ==
2013.03.29. 0:56:35       -4           Active Skill First Aid 0 -> 1
2013.03.29. 0:56:23       -4           Active Skill Gunnery 0 -> 1
2013.03.29. 0:54:44       -4           Active Skill Pilot Aircraft 0 -> 1
2013.03.29. 0:54:36       -4           Active Skill Perception 0 -> 1
2013.03.29. 0:54:17       -4           Active Skill Dodge 0 -> 1
2013.03.29. 0:52:41       -20          Swapped Negative Quality In Debt (30,000¥) for In Debt (20,000¥)
2013.03.27. 17:59:11      18           Mission interlude reward
2013.03.27. 17:49:42      7            starting (Refund)
2013.03.27. 17:48:57      15           mission 1 + group awards

== Nuyen Expenses ==
2013.03.29. 0:57:21       -600         Purchased Gear Medkit
2013.03.29. 0:53:04       -15000       Paying off the debt( 30k left)
2013.03.27. 17:59:39      4850         Mission Reward

== Notes ==
4d6x500 starting money Andromeda + 6k from left over cash (4d6=18) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/4000608/) - starting cash 15k

Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <03-28-13/1948:53>
Thanks man =D
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <03-28-13/1953:04>
Thanks man =D

Still working on the chummer itself

adding the 18 smart-linked uzi and the 2 predators are still in process to be added :( takes a lot of time)
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-01-13/1055:57>
Okay so quick update before i go to work, Ren and Padawan are BOTH IN, because electricblue109 had to drop out.
We'll get started in the next few days hopefully
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Kouryuu on <04-01-13/1102:59>
Okay so quick update before i go to work, Ren and Padawan are BOTH IN, because electricblue109 had to drop out.
We'll get started in the next few days hopefully
good to hear
will finish uploading Andromeda tonight or tomorrow hopefully, but the Char i is ready and in the thread.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-01-13/1106:07>
Okay so quick update before i go to work, Ren and Padawan are BOTH IN, because electricblue109 had to drop out.
We'll get started in the next few days hopefully
good to hear
will finish uploading Andromeda tonight or tomorrow hopefully, but the Char i is ready and in the thread.
sure no problem

how the hell do i get rid of the poll
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Ren on <04-01-13/1617:56>
Hey, good to hear that there had to be no tough decision. Below i uploaded the final version of Gibbon. Also, here's my starting nujen roll (pretty pityful).
Starting nujen: starting nujen (4d6+12=22) (http://invisiblecastle.com/roller/view/4002624/) So it is 11.000.

Also wanted to ask what the campaign name is if we use invisible castle for the rolls.

== Info ==
Street Name: Gibbon
Name: Gideon Eugene Merrywether II
Movement: 12/30, Swim: 4
Karma: 31
Street Cred: 3
Notoriety: 1
Public Awareness: 1
Dwarf (Haruman) male Age 24
Height 115 cm Weight 48 kg
Composure: 8
Judge Intentions: 8
Lift/Carry: 8 (60 kg/40 kg)
Memory: 9
Nuyen: 3000

== Attributes ==
BOD: 4
AGI: 7 (9)
REA: 4 (5)
STR: 4
CHA: 3
INT: 5
LOG: 2 (4)
WIL: 5
EDG: 3

== Derived Attributes ==
Essence:                   2,66
Initiative:                9 (10)
IP:                        1 (2)
Matrix Initiative:         5
Matrix IP:                 1
Physical Damage Track:     10
Stun Damage Track:         11

== Active Skills ==
Animal Handling            : 0                      Pool: 4
Animal Training            : 0                      Pool: 4
Archery                    : 0                      Pool: 8
Armorer                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Artisan                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Automatics                 : 0                      Pool: 8
Blades                     : 1 [Knives]             Pool: 10 (12)
Climbing                   : 1                      Pool: 9
Clubs                      : 0                      Pool: 8
Computer                   : 2                      Pool: 7
Con                        : 1 [Fast Talk]          Pool: 7 (9)
Cybercombat                : 0                      Pool: 4
Data Search                : 2                      Pool: 7
Demolitions                : 0                      Pool: 4
Disguise                   : 3                      Pool: 8
Diving                     : 0                      Pool: 4
Dodge                      : 1                      Pool: 6
Escape Artist              : 1                      Pool: 11
Etiquette                  : 1 [Street]             Pool: 7 (9)
First Aid                  : 0                      Pool: 4
Flight                     : 1                      Pool: 9
Forgery                    : 0                      Pool: 8
Gunnery                    : 0                      Pool: 8
Gymnastics                 : 1                      Pool: 14
Hacking                    : 0                      Pool: 4
Hardware                   : 2                      Pool: 7
Heavy Weapons              : 0                      Pool: 8
Industrial Mechanic        : 1                      Pool: 6
Infiltration               : 3                      Pool: 13
Instruction                : 0                      Pool: 5
Intimidation               : 0                      Pool: 5
Leadership                 : 1                      Pool: 7
Locksmith                  : 1                      Pool: 10
Longarms                   : 0                      Pool: 8
Navigation                 : 0                      Pool: 4
Negotiation                : 1 [Bargaining]         Pool: 7 (9)
Palming                    : 3                      Pool: 13
Parachuting                : 0                      Pool: 4
Perception                 : 1                      Pool: 9
Pilot Ground Craft         : 0                      Pool: 4
Pilot Watercraft           : 0                      Pool: 4
Pistols                    : 3 [Semi-automatics]    Pool: 12 (14)
Riding                     : 0                      Pool: 5
Running                    : 1                      Pool: 9
Shadowing                  : 3                      Pool: 8
Software                   : 2                      Pool: 7
Survival                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Swimming                   : 1                      Pool: 9
Throwing Weapons           : 0                      Pool: 8
Tracking                   : 0                      Pool: 4
Unarmed Combat             : 0                      Pool: 8

== Knowledge Skills ==
Business                   : 1                      Pool: 7
Economics                  : 1                      Pool: 7
English                    : N                      Pool: 0
Gangs                      : 4                      Pool: 10
Hindi-Urdu                 : 3                      Pool: 9
Smuggling Operations       : 3                      Pool: 9
Spanish                    : 3                      Pool: 9
Underworld                 : 3                      Pool: 9

== Contacts ==
Creepy Joe, fixer (3, 1)

== Qualities ==
Biosystem Overstress
Celerity
Combat Paralysis
Distinctive Style
Functional Tail (Prehensile)
Genetic Heritage
Low-Light Vision
Media Junkie (Mild)
Metagenetic Improvement (AGI)
Monkey Paws
Unusual Hair

== Lifestyles ==
Redmond hideout  1 months
   Comforts:      Squatter
   Entertainment: Squatter
   Necessities:   Low
   Neighborhood:  Low
   Security:      Low
   Qualities:     Hasty Exit [2LP]
                  Stocked Up [1LP]
                  Crash Pad [-1LP]
                  Loud Neighborhood [-1LP]
                  Poor Condition [-1LP]
Renton House  1 months
   Comforts:      Middle
   Entertainment: High
   Necessities:   High
   Neighborhood:  Middle
   Security:      High
   Qualities:     Perfect Roommate [2LP]

== Cyberware/Bioware ==
Attention Coprocessor Rating 3
Cerebral Booster Rating 2
Damper
Datajack
Enhanced Articulation
Enhanced Protein Exchange, PuSHeD
Enhanced Protein Exchange, Reakt
Flare Compensation
Genetic Optimization (AGI)
Mnemonic Enhancer Rating 1
Muscle Toner Rating 2
Olfactory Booster Rating 3
Synthacardium Rating 3
Wired Reflexes Rating 1

== Armor ==
Armor Jacket              8/6
   +AR Enhanced
   +Fire Resistance 6
   +YNT SoftWeave
   +Skinlink
Chameleon Suit            6/4
   +AR Enhanced
   +Fire Resistance 4
   +Thermal Damping 6
   +Skinlink
Form-Fitting Full-Body Suit6/2
   +Biomonitor
   +Nonconductivity 6
   +YNT SoftWeave
   +Skinlink
SecureTech PPP Armor (Ensemble with Helmet)2/6
   +YNT SoftWeave

== Weapons ==
Ares Viper Slivergun
   +Concealable Holster
   +Smartgun System, Internal
   +Spare Clips
   +Spare Clips
   +Foregrip
   +Gas Vent 3
   +Improved Range Finder
   +Personalized Grip
   +Skinlink
   +Sound Suppressor
   Pool: 14   DV: 8P(f)   AP: +5   RC: 5
Ceramic Knife
   Pool: 10 (12)   DV: 3P   AP: -   RC: 0
Cougar Fineblade Knife, Long
   +Personalized Grip, Melee
   Pool: 11 (13)   DV: 4P   AP: -1   RC: 0
Knife
   Pool: 10 (12)   DV: 3P   AP: -   RC: 0
Knife
   Pool: 10 (12)   DV: 3P   AP: -   RC: 0
Monofilament Chainsaw Rating 2
   +DP Penalty
   Pool: -2   DV: 5P   AP: -2   RC: 0
Unarmed Attack
   Pool: 8   DV: 2S   AP: -   RC: 0

== Commlink ==
Meta Link (1, 1, 1, 2)
   +Vector Xim
   +Skinlink
Novatech Airware (2, 3, 6, 3)
   +Custom Commlink OS [Firewall 6, System 3]
   +Suite: Basic+ (Hacked) [Analyze 3, Browse 3, Command 1, Edit 3]
   +Encrypt (Hacked) Rating 3
   +Empathy Software (Hacked) Rating 3
   +Skinlink

== Gear ==
Ammo: Flechette Rounds (Heavy Pistols) x30
Autopicker Rating 6
Catalyst Stick
Earbuds Rating 3
   +Audio Enhancement Rating 3
   +Spatial Recognizer
   +Skinlink
Fake SIN (Paolo Escobar) Rating 4
   +Fake License (Warez permit) Rating 4
   +Fake License (Weapons permit) Rating 4
Glasscutter
Glasses Rating 4
   +Image Link
   +Vision Enhancement Rating 3
   +Vision Magnification
   +Smartlink
   +Skinlink
Grapple Gun
Keycard Copier Rating 6
Latex Face Mask x2
Maglock Passkey Rating 6
Maglock Sequencer Rating 6
Miniwelder
Monofilament Chainsaw
Scent-masking Cigarette x10
Security Tags x20
Stealth Rope (100 m)
Stealth Tags x20
Tool Kit (Electronics)

== Description ==
With smaller frame than your usual dwarf, Gibbon is truly monkey-like. He has short, spiky hair, a big smile on his wide face, several piercings in his ears and nose, and a cheerful demeanor that can be both annoying and inspiring. He wears good-quality clothes that are easy to move in, his favourite colours seem to be dark grey and red. He always has a knife or two hidden on his person.

== Background ==
Gibbon was born in 2046 in Seattle and named Gideon Eugene Merrywether II. His father Gilford Brian Merrywether III was a respectable businessman in position at an A rated corporation who was often on the road to make agreements with prospective partners. He met her mother, Ajeeta Kaur Ghuman, lead engineer of a contracted corporation on one of those trips to India. The parents wanted to give every edge to their children so they turned to pre-birth gene therapy, trying to make the child faster and cleverer than others. Unfortunately, the brain mod backfired, causing setbacks in Gideon's mental development. When the parents tried to repair this with bioware, a procedural mistake weakened the child's immune system.

Gideon was interested in his mother's trade but had some problems with understanding details. He also started to study business and negotiation techniques to be able to follow his father in his steps. His main goal was to be an athlete in some team sport. He developed slowly and was still undecided on the future course (to much annoyance of his father) when suddenly, the second crash changed everything.

The whole family was in Bogota when the crash happened, the boy on some organized school trip, the parents at a convention. The following riots tore the convetion center apart, the parents died there. The school trip also went south, some gang stopped it and set it to fire after taking everything valuable. Gideon was lucky as he could squirm through a small opening , avoiding certain death. He was lost in an alien city however with no help. It took him a week to get back to the hotel where his parents had rooms and he almost died three times during that. Of course, with no ID, a week's dirt on him, the guards threw him out on the street.

After that, he had to resort to actions he deeply despised, stealing to survive. His agility and intuitions had him make it through all hardships and he slowly worked himself up, first working alone, then joining a gang, then as a freelance courier and thief again. He got used to the situation and liked the aspect of the "clumsy dwarf" (a common perception) showing everybody what he's made of.

Of course he never gave up the goal to go home. By the time he collected enough money and favors to arrange this, it was already 2071 and deep down he already was a shadowrunner. He is somewhat new to Seattle's shadow communitiy and he only knows the fixer who helped him back to the city.

== Concept ==
Thief and infiltrator
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-01-13/1633:01>
Also wanted to ask what the campaign name is if we use invisible castle for the rolls.



Messy Biz Chapter 0 and yes.
Title: Re: [OOC] Messy Biz - Chapter 2.
Post by: Chrona on <04-01-13/1656:07>
new IC thread http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=10484.0
new OOC thread http://forums.shadowrun4.com/index.php?topic=10485.0

You may want to add a one paragraph blurb to get people caught up on your character's skills and the like.